What Age to Start Training Puppy to Sit/Stay/Come?

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Hi all,

I am a proud new owner of a red male dobie.  He is a little over 8 weeks old and we have had him 4 days now. The first few nights in the crate were pretty easy.  He would whine for 15 minutes, give up, and fall asleep.  Now he doesn't whine at all.

The only other dog I have raised is a min-pin / chihuahua mix (my girlfriends). She was an absolute delight to train.  Very smart and huge attention span.  I could sit in the living room for hours and she would focus on me and the task at hand.  That was four years ago and I can hardly remember how old she was when we started training her in basic obedience.

So my question to this forum is: at what age should a doberman pinscher be ready for some basic obedience commands such as 'SIT' and 'STAY'?  When did you start training your doberman puppy with good results?

Right now he is just a baby and only focused on food/play/sleep so I know I need to be patient.  But for how long?

Thanks and I look forward to being an active member in the forum!  Here is a pic for your viewing pleasure!

What a very cute picture!

You can begin training right now. Here is a link to an article provided by the DPCA http://www.dpca.org/BreedEd/superpuppy.htm This article will go through all the periods of your puppies development and give you suggestions as to what is appropriate and what is not and why. Remember in training that this is a great time to start but the attention span is but a minute, so training should be short and extremely fun. YOu can start working on sit, down, come. Take a look through the DPCA articles they have excellent articles written by TRUE Doberman professionals. Everything you want to know about your new little puppy may be found within their website.

Enjoy your new little guy he wont be little for long LOL.

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I realize the photo is a little dark, but I do like the dark "mahogany" color. I have a weakness for reds, having two currently and having had 3 others in the past.

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so cute, ur puppy looks exactly the same as mine, but mine is 6 weeks old and still with is mother, i cant wait to welcome him in my life, i wish u the best of friendship with ur dobie

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This site has a lot of tips I followed with my puppies.  The key advice that I am SO glad I followed:  Teach them to sit for everything and do not allow any jumping...because jumping up is not cute when your puppy is an 85 pound dog.  At 8 weeks old I started with "sit" and I am very glad I did! 

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Hello, I know I am opening up an old psot,but I can't resist !
I was talking with a trainer the other day. He has two Dobermans himself. He does personal protection training. He said a dog that is nto taught to not jump up, and not do other certain things, is easier to train. I am thinking about hiring someone to train him to attack/bite on command for my own protection (not for any other reason).  I can't re-explain everything ,but the way this guy explained it, made sense. He said that the dog needs to not feel it can't do this or that,and have a certain level of confidence. Maybe he is right,maybe he is wrong. I am actualyl njto gonig with this guy, but will be contacting someone else for this type of training. But thought 'd share his info,and see what others thought.

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One reason I chose the dobie other than they are smart, beautiful, exquisite and good tempered, was that they were breed for protection. It is in them already!!!  I heard I didn't  need to train her to do that. That when needed she would protect.
Good Luck!

PS: There was a person on here the other day that trained his to protect and would do it on command he was so proud, except now it was wanting to bite him when he coughed or something like that...shrug!

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Buddys-owner wrote:

I am thinking about hiring someone to train him to attack/bite on command for my own protection (not for any other reason). 

The best way to train him to protect, is to bond securely with him. Dobies are protective of their pack by nature. That does not mean that each and every one is perfect. Rather than training to "attack/bite" on command, perhaps you should look into the Shutzhund training. This is more of a general protection training. Look in the Showing The Doberman and Doberman Sports area for more on this.

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Buddys-owner wrote:

I was talking with a trainer the other day. He has two Dobermans himself. He does personal protection training. He said a dog that is nto taught to not jump up, and not do other certain things, is easier to train. I am thinking about hiring someone to train him to attack/bite on command for my own protection (not for any other reason).  I can't re-explain everything ,but the way this guy explained it, made sense. He said that the dog needs to not feel it can't do this or that,and have a certain level of confidence. Maybe he is right,maybe he is wrong. I am actualyl njto gonig with this guy, but will be contacting someone else for this type of training. But thought 'd share his info,and see what others thought.

I have heard that dogs who are meant to be used for personal protection, Schutzhund, etc are allowed to get away with a lot in order to maintain their confidence because they're never wrong.  My thought on that is how bad is their confidence that they can't take a simple correction for jumping up or whatever?  Anyway, you also have to keep in mind that a lot of sport dogs are kept in kennels and come out to perform their sport and then go back to a kennel.  I know a few people who have tried to get involved in Schutzhund only to be told that they should kennel their dogs and not keep them as pets and family members.  My thought there is how protective is your dog from their kennel when they're not with you anyway? 

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glengate wrote:

  I know a few people who have tried to get involved in Schutzhund only to be told that they should kennel their dogs and not keep them as pets and family members.  My thought there is how protective is your dog from their kennel when they're not with you anyway? 

glengate Thanks for posting that about Schutzhund. I had no idea that was how the Schutzhund ppl are!  ummm...Not for my dog or any of my dogs! They are family

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I'm not saying that all Schutzhund people are like that, don't get me wrong.  Some are very hardcore, and the dogs are tools that they use for the sport that they enjoy.  It's like any sport where there are always going to be people who are dead serious about it and want to be on the podium at any cost all the way down to the person who dabbles around with a sport out of sheer enjoyment and interest. 

There ARE people who enjoy Schutzhund and who are successful at it with dogs that they keep as family companions and pets, but they seem to be in the minority when it comes to that sport. 

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I get it! I do anyone can be that way about anything! I wan't interested in doing Schutzhund and if i were my body would not let me. I just thought better of the dog world. However I have seen some really over zealous dog ppl, in need of balance.

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Ah, Judy, there are dog people. But they are the ones owned by their dog. Then there are people who just have dogs, and as Glengate says, to them the dog is a tool. If there are any who are members here, they don't hang around. To them, we are crazy, but to us they are unfeeling.

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Oh Rick... don't think me as one of them  ;)  It is just without going into a long tale on a forum that there are ppl who put their dogs above family...I love my dogs!!! Oh yes but I would never ever choose them over my own pure blood LOL!!!! But they come a close second!  ;D

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What I was trying to say, and said poorly, that those who view their dogs as just tools to be trained and used, do not hang around her long. The long term members are those who view their dogs as important members of their family and companions. I don't know of anyone who would put their dog above their immediate family members. Now, above unruly neices and nephews or distant cold cousins it might be a different story.

I'm a person that does all different sports with my dogs. Not because they are put above my family or used as tools but because it is a great bonding experience and good mental as well as physical stimulation for them. Dobermans are a working breed and extremely intelligent and I believe need a job to do. My daughter and I  really enjoy training together and going to shows. Right now we are taking agility classes together and getting ready for shows the entire month of May. Steph my daughter will be trying to earn a CD title RE title and NJP on Boo our 9yr old. So for us it is a blend of family fun, entertainment and on the dogs part pure enjoyment.

As for the Schutzhund, I belong to a club where it is mostly German Shepherds and a handful of Dobes. Most people in our club treat their dogs very similar to mine, they are for the most part house dogs and extremely trained. The trainer of the club is more hardcore and his dog is strictly for work. Someone posted earlier about the Schutzhund dogs being allowed to jump up and things like that in order to build their self esteem. The dogs I'm around are like I said Extremely well trained and not allowed to do that. If you read up on the sport or watch videos of it the obedience section is incredible! Romeo is just beginning his work in Schutzhund and I'm hoping he will work out for it. Right now he is showing some promise.

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LOL!!! I got a few of those I'd have to think about too!

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rnddobermans  That is why I wanted to do things with Izzy like you, so we bond plus have fun and have things to do!! I can't do sports!

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so is 6 weeks to young to start teaching sit lay down and come? i want to no cuz i have already started trying sit and she dose it every once in a while when i ask i would like to no if im starting to early or what should i do?

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I got Rocky at 10 weeks old and we began immediately...Come, sit and lay down were first on the list along with leash walking and it's paid off.  I think the younger you start them the better. I mean it sure can't hurt....

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Please look at ALL of KevinK's posts.. His work with Dakota shows you what a Doberpup is able to learn and to do..

Consistancy and CONSTANT vigilenge is the key. Your kids can do anything.. it's up to you!!!

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thanks lk!!

We got dakota a little later, 12 weeks, and by day 2 (I have videos up) she was listening to her commands.  I started, literally immediately after I gave her my first big hug, kiss, and run around the house.  I don't know how a pup would react at different ages, but after just a few days, Dakota was impressing everyone around.  Like Kate said, consitency is the key... don't EVER give a command that you can't or won't backup.  Don't give the option to not listen.  

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ok i will do that but the only problem is she has a ever short attention spand and she always runs offto play when i start to try to teach her and if i try to keep a hold on her to get her attention back she kicks and wiggels away from me.

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training sessions should be kept extremely short, 1-3 minutes MAX is more than enough.  You want to keep them very short, and do a few throughout the day.  If you make the training very fun it will make it much easier.

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ok i will do it should i use her favorit toy to try her training. or would that be bad?to do .i was trying treats but shes not that found of them so its harder since she really dont like them.

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You will have fun learning what works best for you.. Favorite toy today might not be the same tomorrow.. Try different treats. Sofia is not tempted by either one.. it's high praise that gets to her.

She loves to be loved.. ( hmm don't we all)Make it fun and not a chore and you'd be surprised what your attitude does for Joslen. ( take lots of pictures as the fawn color changes weekly!!) Right now Sofia is a soft honey with a golden face.. Beautiful!!)

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yes i already started i just added some more pictures on here of her just a little bit ago.and i prase her for everything good that she dose and yes she dose love it alot.and your fawn is very beautiful. i hope when shes that big she looks like yours. im so excited about training her i cant wait to see how fast she learns everything and i can wait to see the out come of it all.