uhh ohh!!! So it was only a matter of time

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I don't know if anyone read the post about my problems with sharing a yard with my neighbors but as quick recap.. I share a yard they have two dogs and i have two dogs.. I have my 1 1/2 year old female- doberman named Soleil and 2 year old Golden retriever named Tucker.  They have a little Shepard mix 7 month old and a tiny terrier around 7 months.  My Dobie was out in the yard and they let their two out... at first she was playing well and then the kinda teemed up on her and starting biting her and she got all snarly with her fur raised and pinned the shepherd mix to the ground.  I yelled "inside" to her and she let go and she came running inside.. no one was bleeding or hurt and it happened in under 30 seconds... How can I stop this?  ???I know their dogs are just puppies but the Shepard mix just chases and then clamps down on my dogs and i feel like it is only a matter of time before something worse happens and mine will always get blamed caused they are larger.  :'(I don't want to make excuses for her but she is really sweet and I have never had any problems being dog aggressive normally she is pretty submissive when meeting other dogs the first to do the puppy "play bow" and initiate play.  What should I do now? I do not want a repeat of this and they are bound to wind up together in the yard.  PLEASE HELP!!??? any suggestions would be REALLY APPRECIATED.

Just look at my sweet girl...

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I think you need to have a talk with these people. You and your dogs aren't doing anything wrong. Personally, with our dogs, when we have puppies around, I let the older dogs teach the younger ones manners. I also let the older ones do such a correction if the puppies are annoying them.

NOTE: I'm not saying its OK or good to let dogs fight. This isn't fighting. It's the Alpha's job to keep pack members from fighting, but it's the subordinate's job to help the Alpha raise and care for the puppies.

At these ages, what you have is your older dogs and their puppies. Their puppies are just being obnoxious puppies. However, when you dog correct their dogs, everyone needs to understand what's going on. When Soleil is tired of play, or the puppies are playing to hard, she's a steady girl, she's going to lay it down for them - just like she did.

The trouble that can develop is if the neighbor's dogs go untrained and get bigger, they may challenge your dogs - the terrier perhaps.

I think you need to have a chat. Are they approachable and / or intelligent?

And yes, she does look like a sweet heart. Look at that big pink nose...

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I cringe to say it, but could a couple of "dog runs" help in your situation? Or at least one for Soleil, If your neighbors decide against it, so if she does one day bite, you can just say "oh well, I tried to work with you on this. She was on her side."

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First Thanks for the responses..

Secondly Horse they are nice people and even claim dog experience in showing and breeding.  I have spoken with them a little on the subject of doggie manners and training and they say they are training their dogs.  I will give them credit that they did not freak out but were very quick to try to gather their dogs inside.  How do you even start that conversation... well "if your little puppies use my dog as chew toy she is not going to take it."  I feel bad cause normally the Golden (who is more dominant than she is)  is in the yard with her an he justs "rests" a paw over the puppies back and pins them.. I saw her try to avoid them but she could not get away.  She pinned the dog with her paws, gave the dog a couple of warning snaps to the air around it and then let go when i called her. 

As far as a dog run i think it might make it worse  ???... she tries to avoid them and if they persist and corner her then she reacts.. if i could convince them to use on we might be in business. 

I know I sound like a broken record but she really is a good dog. 

I know she was just correcting them but I still view her as a puppy and I worry that she will be a bit rough on them.  Normally she is very gentle with small dogs but mostly the small dogs she has been exposed to have doggie manners. 

Any other good tricks to stop their dogs from digging.. the bury their poop trip worked for a day or two but then they did not care anymore....

Homeownership is starting to sound pretty nice about now...

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It is a buyer's market!!!!  ;)

Really though, it's obvious Soleil is a good dog. If she wasn't you'd be asking questions about not getting sued. The key is that you don't want her to associate unpleasantness with the little dogs. If she doesn't like their treatment of her, and she reacts by knocking them around a bit, this might be good for the puppies and your neighbors. Just, when you see her giving spankings, call her to you but don't give her any correction. Just give her a general empty, "be nice".

That's what I do when our dogs are doing something that is their job but is somewhat offensive. It would be good to sharpen up the come command too. You can do this by giving her favorite reward for returning to you - then only give the reward if she comes immediately. You can do this throughout the day inside and outside. You can also include the come command before other happy stuff like feeding, going out for walks, and whatever else she gets excited about.

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Well I guess all my worrying turned into nothing.  I think the little pups  learned... only one correction via doberman is needed for them not to be a bratty puppy to her.  Soleil is so funny, she has mastered the evil eye with the dog especially with the terrier.  She will play but when she is finished she gets down to his level and gives him "the look".  So far so good. 

I love the empty "be nice" idea.  I could use a little practice on the come command.  She makes it hard to give before something nice because she is like my shadow while in the house.  Wherever I go she is following....

Thanks for the advice!!!