Tummy problems... again

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Soleil has a VERY sensitive stomach.  For the past two days I have woken up to find her getting sick.  I don't know if I should to take her the vet or not.  If she vomited more than once a day and had any other symptoms I would rush her there but this one is strange.  She gets feed her normal twice a day and she eats it just fine.  (she gets sick hours after dinner... like 4am)  She is not acting lethargic or anything.  She has plenty of energy.  I watched her carefully when I let her her out and beside a mouthful of grass I don't think she got into anything.  I just can't figure it out. I don't want to take her only for the vet to tell me switch her to a plain diet and give it a few days.  No new treats.  She has been on the food for a month Canidae (that's after a week or so of transition time)  stools normal.  I don't know what to do.  Should I wait and see if this something that will work itself out.  Are there any symptoms that I should look for that indicate an immediate trip to the vet is warranted?  Any suggestions? 

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I was just talking to another Dobe owner about this!  She has had Dobes for the last 30 years and said they tend to throw up if their stomachs are empty.  If it's just stomach fluid that's coming up, she suggested giving something light to eat (like a small dog biscuit or cracker) before bedtime

I have one of my dogs Boo that does this quite often. It is usually in the morning before she is even fed.

Interestingly enough my vet had written an article regarding dog foods and ingredients in them. He labeled some as being Hot and some cold, and different dogs needing one or the other depending on how they reacted to it. I will see if I can find the article or ask him when I bring Elly in for a check up. To back up I'm not talking about the food actually being heated up or cold either. He listed the symptoms of the dog vomiting like this for no other apparent reason and talked about it being switched to a hot or cold food. Again this wont make a lot of sense until I find this article and post it in it's entirety.

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Well I am going to the vet today.  I hope she is ok.  I think it is just stomach fluid coming up but (not to be graphic) there is alot of it.  Maybe i will start feeding her a light snack in between. That article about hot and cold foods sounds really interesting.  If you can find it please post it.

I wonder what the vet will say today....  ???

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Vet came up with a diagnosis of nothing.... Really nothing.  He kept on asking me if she got into anything... Blood was drawn to to make sure her kidneys and liver were ok.  she is on restricted  diet, just rice and ground turkey and a shot to help with her nausea.  I don't now what do but wait and see.  Very nerve racking waiting for a diagnosis.  I am definitely thinking about switching vets though, he was not very informative or helpful... maybe I'm just being cranky though cause my girl is sick. 

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Greta has done this before, thrown up at 4 or 5 in the morning, nothing but liquid, for no reason.  She did this for three times in one week, we could not figure out why she did it.  This was about 6 months ago.  I was like you, frustrated as to what the cause was and luckily it went away.  I hope Soleil feels better soon.

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Some dogs have a more sensitive stomach, just as some humans do. Unfortunately, unlike humans, they don't seem to leave the things that bother them alone.

I have a male Schnauzer, Jiggs, who just loves the eat the acorns that are on the ground from the trees. The result is then a bout of diarrhea and me cleaning his crate. His father also on occasion will eat grass and then barf up something. Other than that they are normal noisy Miniature Schnauzers who are petrified of Red, and antagonistic toward Princess (she's not as large and intimidating as Red).

Keep an eye on her and make sure she's not eating something outside that you are not aware of.

Now, I read back through your first post, and you have transitioned her to Canidae. Which variety? I have transitioned all of mine to it, and I took my time. The label did warn that the higher protein concentration could cause problems. But, after a month she should now be used to it. Since it's more potent, I have cut back the volume a bit as well. Their weights seem to be holding.

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I think it is the beef and fish variety without looking at the bag I am not 100% sure... Today with just being on ground turkey and rice diet she has not vomited at all.  The only reason I switched her food was cause she skin was very flaky with the food she was on before even with salmon oil in her food and doing research on food it seemed pretty good.  I switched her from Nutro venison which besides from the skin her tummy was ok on.  I just want to find something that is good for her... who knew dog diet was soooo complicated... If it is just a food thing I will keep on researching and try to find something that both her skin and tummy agree upon. 

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Well the vet pretty much gave her a clean bill of health... she blood tests came back ok.. she has a slightly higher white blood cell count and I need to bring in a fecal sample to check for parasites and she due for her shots but I have been instructed to start slowly transitioning her back to the dog food ... we will see how that goes.  She REALLY LIKES the turkey and rice diet. 

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If she likes the Turkey and Rice kibble and it seems to like her, then I would stay on it. If she needs more oils, you may try putting the residue from grilling chicken on it.

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Hi, new to this forum and I'd like to retouch on this subject.

My 3yr old male has been doing the same thing. Vomiting small amount of stomach fluid late in night or early in the morning. The hot and cold food article spoke about above would be nice to have. Any new info on this subject?  

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Sofia was doing the same thing a couple of months ago.. she'd eat grass then vomit it up with bile.. I discovered she was hungry... and the feeling she had in her stomach made her want to do something about it.. so she ate what was available.... grass

I've been giving her three smallish meals a day. It worked.. No more grazing or throwing up.

She eats at 7AM, 12 and then again at 6PM. Totals three cups of kibble with a small amount of white chicken meat on the bottom of the bowl. I tell her "find it" and she'll eat her way down to the chicken or scootch ( it's a word) her nose through the bowl to get to it first..

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I'm a little worried.  Thor is 8 months old now.  When I first got him and fed him he devoured his food as soon as i put it down, then of course looked around for more.  I've been feeding him twice a day once around 10am when I get up and once around 10pm when I come home for my lunch break.  I work 5pm to 3am so it makes it kind of difficult to do otherwise as far as food schedule.  This all changed around Thanksgiving when we went on a 3 or so hour trip to visit family.  Thor does pretty good in cars but was whining a lot on the way up there.  Then due to about 20-30 people bein at my grandmas for the holiday he had to spend most of it outside. At 7 months he really did not like this because he couldnt get to me or see what was going on inside.  On the way home he slept most of the way and when we got home he seemed like he was pouting.  He wasn't eating very well or drinking a lot.  I took him to the vet and they said he was probably stressed and developed a tummy ache.  They gave me some meds to give him and I did for the first day or two along with chicken and rice I made for him.  After those couple days he seemed to get better so I stopped giving him the meds.  Every since then he still doesnt wolf his food down but just eats a bit here and there sometimes going the whole day with just half what I give him, his nose also always seems to be dry but he drinks a lot when he does.  As he gets older will he slow down in eating like this or should I try to switch his dog food to see what happens.  I've been feeding him Beneful and have never seemed to have a problem with it.  Also he seems to wanna be right next to me the whole time.  Think he could be not eating or drinking because he's worried I'm leaving again and doesn't want to go into next room where he cant see me? Sorry was so long.

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I found the more attention I gave to Sofia either not eating enough.. eating too much... bottled water? tap water? Vitamins, fish oil... and all the obsessive things I was doing, the more neurotic she seemed to become.. They take on our moods, our vibrations and the less attention I gave her ( re: food) the better she did.

I now place the bowl on the floor.. say " Sofia, come find it" she's on her dinner like a flash.. it's clean plate club every time.. if she leaves a kibble or two. that's okay.

Of course Thor wants to be with you.. he's a velcro dog.. he will stick to you like.. well like velcro!!

I don't think people realize how sensitive they can be and if you are worried about anything, he will sense it and take on your mood.. I promise you , once you relax, so will he..

just have fun!

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Hey Lady Kate thnx a ton for the comment, thats great advice :) we'll see how it goes...he does seem to eat or drink well when i'm in the room or after we've played for a bit.

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Dogs can get car sick too, especially if they aren't used to road trips.  He might have eaten a plant of some kind that also didn't agree with him.  I think Lady Kate is right.  One of my dogs was really keen on not eating his food when I wasn't around.  But eventually he got over it.  Just keep an eye on him.  

Dry noses aren't the best indication that something is wrong, its sort of a myth.  Instead of checking his nose, check his gums.  When you lift up his lip, his gums should be nice and moist.  If they are tacky something's not right.  Also, you can check his circulation by pressing your finger into the gums and watching them turn white and then as you remove your finger in 1-2 seconds it should pop back to pink.  If it takes longer than that, not good.  If they are purple/blue, not good.  Now, if your dog has naturally black gums this of course doesn't work.

Also, you can better check for dehydration by their skin.  Lift up the rough of the dog's neck and then release it, it should bounce right back down like nothing.  If it goes back slow, he is dehydrated.  And in slow, I mean, it will be very exaggerated.

These are just signs that yes, something isn't right.  If you're ever unsure about the health of your pup, its best to head to the vet like you did.