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Well Rosco is reaching the 6 month mark and boy oh boy are we starting to get a little brat on our hands. Our once amazing "stays" are now not so amazing. Last night when my husband got home from work and we were up in bed he stood at the top of the stairs growling/barking too scared to go down and see who was home (it was pretty funny).

I am unsure of what to do though with something...He is allowed on the couch with permission but sometimes he jumps up on his own, when I tell him to get off he looks at me as if to say yea screw you and then will bark at me, if I dont awknowledge him he will throw his feet on me. I know this is something that needs to stop immediatly but I dont know what to do. I have tried directing his attention, taking him outside, crating him for a few minutes, holding his nose so he can't bark at me and all of these things he just comes right back to where he left off barking at me. I feel like he is doing it for the attention so I try to ignore him but just keeping his feet off the couch and ignoring the barking but then he will nip my hands and put those big hooves on me. I am at my wits end as to what I should do about this and any input would help.

 

I will upload some new pictures soon! He is growing into quite a handsome man. We are also doing semi-private agility lessons with my mothers pup and he is going to be SO fast, I am going to need to be in great shape that's for sure! :P

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If he's up on the couch, barking at you, simply put him on the floor and ignore him. He tries to get back up, you pit him back on the floor again. When he stops barking at you and trying to get on the couch, even to give you one of those "WTF" looks, say no bark and praise him. If he continues, keep ignoring him. If he's doing it for attention, this is a quick way to teach him that he's got to behave if he wants any. I'd completely take away furniture privilages for the time being, til he learns that that is your space, and you control it. Not him. Then you can slowly reintroduce the couch. Hope this helped.

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I don't have a whole lot to offer, other than to say I feel your pain!  Rosco and Koko are within a couple of weeks of each other, so we're right there with you!

I would agree about taking away couch priviledges entirely until he learns to respect your space.

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good luck and Patience

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Thanks Wolfgirl that really did help!  It is really hard to have patience through this haha! I just know the other end of it he will be a wondering little monster. 

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I have a different take on this, with the Terrible Two I engage them to always earn what they want. In your example, I would say a firm No when they act without permission, move them back (I call this resetting) then command sit, stay then ok onto the couch.

Slowly you will be able to extend the stay and the reaction to sit will become faster. This I feel is better because the dog starts to respect the order of operation (sit, stay, ok) and sits waiting for your permission.

The dog remains happy because there is no real punishment and your happier because the dog is respectful.

Simply put, nothing is gained with out earning it, for everything! that you coming out the door to them being allowed to sit on the couch or come down stairs.

A little tip i found helps is always say your commands two steps away so you can advance on their personal space repeating the command when they test your resolve. eg, sit (no reaction) one step closer. Sit said sharper, another step and you should be looking down on them. Sit said forcefully and DON'T look at them at this last stage. For me at least this is almost always successful.

Hope this perspective helps.

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I had the same issues with Skye at that age. This is how I got her to stop. Another thing, he will start to get it and you may just give in because "He's doing so well!", but he'll only get worse if you do. Do Not let him back on the furniture until you are POSITIVE that he's learned what he needs to... Don't give him any lee-way because "He did well and listened the first time!!" Trust me, that mistake has been made by yours truly, and it's not fun.

Andrew~ Thats an interesting perspective! The only issue I have is the repeated commands. Never repeat commands. One time is all it should ever take. Say you tell them to sit three times, as in your example. If you keep doing this three step process, their knowledge of the command becomes "Sit, sit, sit" instead of just "Sit" I've met many dogs who's owners have made this mistake, as it's a very easy one to make. I'm not saying you are, because I don't know how often your dog actually sit's on the first command, but commands should never be repeated.

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He has great sits and stays..BUT when he gets in this state of mind and sits and stays as soon as I release him he is still in that same mentality to jump up and bark. That being said I have been not letting him on the couch and ignoring him and it has been working GREAT (so far) he will bark a couple times and then it's like "Oh well she's nto paying any attention so what's the point" and he goes and lays down on his bed. I am doing agility with him so we are trying to keep commands quick and responsive and like wolfgirl says not to repeat them, which is hard when you are frustrated with the doberteens! 

Hi went through this with Mina aswell, I've never let her on couch but she would jump up in defiance , bark etc ..... Took a good routine of excersise and training , not to mention getting older for her to stop this behaviour . Sometimes she was very Naughty. !!! Watch with agility as he s still so young with jumping and stuff . Only let him on couch when you say it's ok to do so ... Ime sure all will be fine and he will stop being naughty soon . Good luck . 

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Do you make sure to praise him and pay attention as soon as he stops barking at you? This is key in teaching him that the good behavior(not barking/being good) gets him attention and the bad behavior(barking/putting his paws on you) gets him nothing.

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Yea he gets praised once he starts barking. The one thing i find challanging is to get a cue in there at the precise moment when he stops and now just in between barks. Sometimes it's hard to tell when he is doing acting like a naughty pup, or just taking a breather. It is defenitely starting to pay off I can tell ti is going to take patience and consistancy. As for the agility I guess I can't even call it that yet haha we are just in puppy class for it they won't start jumping until they are a year, just getting them used to itty bitty stuff and the proper commands. :)

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Thanks again by the way for all the replies! It is so helpful to get different views on things!

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You're welcome! :D A good queue to use is a simple "No Bark" Or you could whistle, something short and sweet that'll catch his attention.