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Hi! I have a doberman puppy that is 7 weeks old. This is my first doberman and Ive read A LOT about them. I have a black boxer and a small westiepoo (hybrid) at home as well. I had a HORRIBLE time potty training my luna (the boxer). It was honestly so terrible I do not want to go through it again. I keep coming home from work finding the doberman has made a horrible mess with poop and pee all over the tray of his kennel. Im scared Im going to have a hard time training this pup too. Has anyone had trouble training their doberman? I know boxers are really stubborn about potty training, but I have not heard of anyone having trouble with their dobies. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks so much!

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maybe you can tell us a little more about what you're doing to train the dog?  How long is it in the kennel, how much room does it have in the kennel, how often does it go out, how often does it eat?  Your dog should have just enough room to stand and turn around... that's it.    

A 7 week old puppy will have to go out OFTEN.  They do not know how to hold their bladder, so when they have to go, they go.  It's your responsibility to notice the paterns, keep note of how often it has to go outside, and reward it when she does go outside instead of in the kennel.  They do not like to mess their kennel, so my guess without knowing more info is that it's not getting outsdide enough.  If the dog messes the kennel, do NOT stick it's nose in it, don't yell at it, if you don't catch it in the act, it's too late to try to discipline.  If you're not available all day long, you need to have someone let the dog out, several times a day.  If you take notice, you will see that they display some type of behavior when they have to go...  So part of your responsibility is learning what this behavior is, and IMMEDIATELY getting the dog outside when this behavior is displayed.  Dakota spins in 4 circles before she goes.  When your pup goes outside, make a really big deal out of it, and give a treat right after.  

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Maybe thats where I am going wrong. I have two kennels... one large one for a full grown large dog and one small one...The small ones tray got torn up by the boxer when she was a pup so I need a new tray. She is in the big one and your right...if she makes a mess she can just go to the other side of the kennel. I take her out before work at 8 and then she also gets taken out between 12-1 and then again at about 3-4. I get home anywhere between 5-6. Today Ive decided to just keep her outside with the other two dogs. They are inside dogs but they are both in heat. He has fun and they play and as long as I keep lots of water I am sure they are fine. I spent a lot of time with the boxer training her to do tricks and worked with her on her excitement when people come in. It was hard but I finally got her to not jump on people OR furniture. It took about 6 months to really train her to where I am happy. We still work with her but her potty training was the worst. The small dog (the westiepoo) was such a breeze to train and didn't take much. I will get a tray for the kennel today and try putting him in tomorrow. I thought that might have something to do with it, but was not sure.

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You're leaving 2 bitches in season outside unattended during the day? 

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What do you mean by "tray" you keep mentioning? Sage was very easy to potty train. First of all, don't use a large crate, i.e. kennel. Of course, as Sage got bigger we sized-up on his kennel, too. Now, he has an XL wire kennel that is in our bedroom next to my side of the bed. Second, don't put down a blanket or pillow for your puppy to lay on during the potty train phase. However, as soon as Sage was potty trained a bed pillow was added to his kennel. Plus, a puppy as young as your's needs to be taken outside every 2-4 hours.

If, you leave your puppy outside all day this will lead to a more challenging potty training, too.

Tray? Sounds more like a bird cage.

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Wow....I was referring to the tray that lays at the bottom of the wire kennel I have. I dont know if I have a offended you in anyway but I was just looking for advice. I am sorry I didnt use the correct word, and I did not know I would offend anyone. He has been outside ONE day and stays in the crate or "kennel" every other day. I thought he would have fun playing with the other dogs. I did lay a towel down because I thought it would be nice to put it in a corner so he could have something to lay on. Once again I did not know I would be making myself look bad for this. The puppy has been doing very well the past 24 hours and has not even gone potty in his crate/kennel...which ever wont make you aggresive. Thanks!

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I am honstely going to just delete this account. I learned a lot from all of your posting and thought everyone seemed very nice but it seems I cant say anything without someone trying to make me feel stupid. I thought this was a way from people to relate and ask questions but noone has been very polite. So, thank you for all I have learned but I guess Im just not educated enough to keep conversation and I would rather not be made to look like a fool.

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Hi smcginley, I don't think you look like a fool. Sometimes people's comments can seem aggressive without their knowing. That happens to me sometimes if I don't re-read. This medium - text - doesn't always convey our attitudes, even with the aid of goofy emoticons.

Also, most people here are just very concerned about dogs and that's their focus. Dog fanciers... Sometime you have to take us with a grain of salt.

So keep asking questions. We're here to help, right everyone?

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I just feel like I have 3 dogs that I treat better than most people treat their kids lol I make sure they are always up to date on shots and have a safe,clean place to sleep. I dont think its cool to take my terminology of words and change it to where I would make my dog sleep in what sounds like a "bird cage". I would take in any dog from the street or cat (even though I'm not crazy about them) if I felt it necessary. I just want to feel like I would be able to learn from someone else and not made feel like I'm stupid for saying something. The more knowledge I have the better. But thanks for the post, really made me feel better! -Stephanie

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I think SoldierRN was just being cute with the bird cage comment. I've always called that plastic tray a tray too.

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Hey Stephanie.. Please don't' take objection.. As I've stated before, not everyone is a "word smith" and many times what gets read is NOT meant to sound the way it was written. You've got a big challenge ahead of you with all the animals you have and love, and we're here to help, not embarrass or demean

 

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Well I hope so because I felt like I was being criticized. Either way I'm over it. This is my last dog lol 4 would be too many. I would have to get a bigger yard! hahaha

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My fiance yells at me all the time for being "mean" in texts, then I have to explain that I wasn't being mean lol.  I don't think anyone was criticizing you, but the post above was right, you should not have 2 girls outside all day that are not spayed, that's asking for trouble.  Everything else has been helpful info.  Like alpha said, keep asking questions, though i've just signed up recently, i've been reading the forums for quite some time now, and everyone seems to be extremely nice, helpful, and willing to lend a hand when they can.

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First - welcome to the forums. Keep in mind that we all were new to this at one time. The reason for the comments about the girls, is that their odor will travel miles. I have seen males that are loose travel well over a mile to visit a female.

I used to think that a 6 foot chainlink fence was enough, but after seeing a dog actually climb a fence, I gave up on that idea. He was actually my dog climbing out to go visit a girl. I had a neighbor come home who had put his female who was in heat outside in her pen. When he came home there were two males standing on top of the pen. My neighbor had made a chainlink top to the pen to keep the "boys" from getting in. That was sucessful, but a third was working on digging under.

Never under estimat the will and inventiveness of dogs. Since you have a young male, you have a decision to make in the next six months. Males have been know to sucessfully breed at the age of 7 months.


By the way - that plastic bottom of the crate that is removable - it is called a tray, you were right.

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I regret not checking in on this thread sooner than now. I would like to offer a very sincere apology. It is me that is an idiot. I'm looking over at Sage in his kennel laying on his bed which is on top of the "tray". I think of the tray as the floor of his kennel. Yet, is in fact a tray. Again, I was wrong! BTW, I have a dry sense of humor. My humor is my way of dealing with PTSD, I guess. I like someone else mentioned I can come across abrupt on message boards or emails. At home, I'll sometimes ask my wife to proof read my tone just as I ask my (SFC) SGT to check my screen before hitting the send button when at work. LOL, as a QA officer I'm already the bad guy without coming across unintentionally rude. Please don't canx your account because of some jerk, "me".

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Also, crate & kennel are interchangable and both correct. I prefer kennel but others use crate. Either is acceptable.

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Well I think its partially my fault for being so sensitive. Oh well. No hard feelings. One thing about my fence is that its not chain link. Its a privacy wooden fence. I havent had any problems with dogs trying to get in. They are off now anyways. I have an apt to get the small one spayed. I havent decided if I want to spay the boxer yet or not. Im sure Ill do it before Rico gets too big. Boxer/Doberman puppies would not be that cute. lol Rico is doing better with potty training. He has had done number 2 in the house twice and number 1 once. I try to go outside a lot even if I dont know if he needs to go or not. Most of the time once he starts walking around he will. He is such a handsome boy. I cant wait to see what he will look like when his ears are done being cropped. He follows me everywhere and I think he likes woman a little more than men. Which is awesome because Ive always had girl dogs and its nice to have a big baby for once. The other dogs LOVE him and they all got new beds today, and of course they are amazingly cute. lol Spoiled brats.

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Well I think its partially my fault for being so sensitive. Oh well. No hard feelings. One thing about my fence is that its not chain link. Its a privacy wooden fence. I havent had any problems with dogs trying to get in. They are off now anyways. I have an apt to get the small one spayed. I havent decided if I want to spay the boxer yet or not. Im sure Ill do it before Rico gets too big. Boxer/Doberman puppies would not be that cute. lol Rico is doing better with potty training. He has had done number 2 in the house twice and number 1 once. I try to go outside a lot even if I dont know if he needs to go or not. Most of the time once he starts walking around he will. He is such a handsome boy. I cant wait to see what he will look like when his ears are done being cropped. He follows me everywhere and I think he likes woman a little more than men. Which is awesome because Ive always had girl dogs and its nice to have a big baby for once. The other dogs LOVE him and they all got new beds today, and of course they are amazingly cute. lol Spoiled brats.

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BTW what does the dollar amount mean next to everyones picture?

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Believe it, or not back in the early stages of Sage's potty training everytime I took him outside I'd say; "need to go potty?" Then when his business was completed (1 or #2) I'd say; "good to go potty". It got to the point of me saying; "go potty" as soon as I let him out the back door & he sniffs for the acceptable location & takes care of business.