Puppy Questions

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Hi,
I've been researching as much as I can on Doberman puppies, but I can find nothing about when they start to control their bladder. What age would this begin to take effect?

Also, is it true that you should not allow your pup to walk up and down the stairs until they are over 12 weeks old? The breeder I bought my pup from strongly discouraged this. I have done exactly as he told me, but I have never seen anyone else mention this. He does breed champion Dobermans so I take what he says quite seriously.

Thanks for your time.
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Every dog is different on potty training. You can't really expect them to understand to 4 to 6 months and it may be shorter or longer depending on how YOU are training and how successful YOU have been getting the point across. Of all the things, potty training is a lot of work but it is nothing compared to obedience and other training so just buckle down and get through it with a bottle of Natures Miracle and a rag for when the accidents happen.

The stairs make sense to me to hold off on too. Consider if you would expect a 9 month to year old baby attempt them? Not only or development but potential falls.

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We live on the third floor, so Harley had to learn to use the stairs.  I have to say he had quite a few bumps in the process (concrete steps), but we had him on leash so he didn't go flying all the way down.  Based on my experience, I would hold off until they are a little more coordinated.  Our pup is a rough and tumble kind of guy, but some may be too sensitive and could get hurt/ or fear the stairs.  

He is also 5 months and we mostly have potty training under control.  Even with giardia he was able to control his diarrhea till he was outside (thank goodness!).  The problem we are having is that he has learned that if he pees a little, we rush him outside (down three flights of steps).  Then he finishes outside.  We were thinking of buying some bells so he learns another cue.  So stick with it, like Jess said.  My parents-in-law have had great success teaching their dog to use bells as a signal to go outside. 

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Hi I'm new to the forum and I'm trying to potty train my dobie.  I'm doing paper training because she hasn't had all her shots and I guess you can say I'm one of those "protective moms".  The reason being because I have had issues with parvo a long time ago and have lost a puppy.  So needless to say I'm particularly worried about this one.  Any tips on what to do?  I know that if you only let them go on puppy pads that's pretty much telling them its okay to go inside, but I feel like I have no other choice.  Thoughts? Insight?

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I had the same situation when my girl was little. It had to do with the neighbor's dogs.  What I did was use puppy pads right by the door that she would be using until the coast was clear for her to go out.  Then when I wanted her to start going outside, I'd put pads outside close to the door (they have an odor that attracts them) and a soiled one so she got the idea it was ok to do it there.  Because of having to do it this way I'm sure it took us longer to potty train, but she got the message. Now she goes to the door and "woof".  Isn't there any place in your own yard that you could take her?

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Well, that's the thing.  There are other dogs around, and she's only 9 weeks old.  Maybe it's just my fear of parvo talking, but I'm not sure if the dog I had before actually had it before it came home, or got it from my yard and the other dogs.  I took my previous puppy in the yard to potty, and within a week or so the poor baby was past help.  Now I'm convinced its in my yard and I'm terrified.  I don't think that I would be able to go through that again.  I'm okay with the longer potty training time, if it saves me from the heartbreak from earlier.   Thank you so much though for the insight it will be a definite help.  Thanks for the support!

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I learned that Laith learned to control his bladder (completely) at around 6 months. He understood the concept very early but sometimes just couldn't "wait" for me. He would have a accident 1-2 a week for awhile. I would take him out every 15 minutes while out of the crate. Usually an accident would occur a minute or so after taking him out. Who knows why? 

In the crate - he had 2 accidents I think. Both like the first few weeks. Then never again (unless sick - throwing up). 

It takes awhile. Just stay on top of a puppy that young. If you give him time to think about it instead of playing/training while out of the crate, accidents will probably happen. A lot here have dobermans that learned much faster than Laith too.

As for the stairs, we made Laith walk the stairs to the door. He would usually do two and get scared. We picked him up if he would get stuck but he learned quick. I always had him on a leash though so he wouldn't fall through. ha-ha. 

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@dobiemom - So sorry to hear of your loss. :/

I can't remember what age the parvo shots are complete? But I feel like it was long before potty training was complete. 

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So around 6 months he will know to let make you aware that he wants outside? My pup is 3 months and he doesn't let me know at all when he needs out. He has free reign of the back garden for at least nine hours every day (supervised at all times) and will go outside every single time then, but once the doors closed, he will not alert you once. Is this normal? I had a German Sherpherd pup that learnt inside of a week, and my other dogs were also very quick with this too. So this is uncharted territory for me. Other then that he is a very bright little bundle of joy. I hold no ilwill towards him for not being able to control his bladder, just not sure what to expect from him.

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Harley is 6 months right now and last week I bought some bells to put on the door knob.  He learned in ONE day to ring the bells when he wants to go out.  We have not had an accident since then (keep your fingers crossed).  Now for some background info.  He already knew that inside was not acceptable, he just didnt have any way to tell us.  The only thing that is annoying us is that now any ringing sounds sends him barking.  I was watching a youtube video last night and the noise of dog tags clinging sent him off. 

I am not saying this will work for your pup right now.  At around 5 months he started to "get it" that pottying inside was not okay.  At 6 months we introduced the bells and it worked.  I wouldn't expect too much before then. 


Ellie was potty trained at 13 weeks with a dog door. 

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Cleo has been one of the slowest puppies to potty train we have had, she was about eight months before she finally got it.   We followed the rule that if she did have a mistake in the house we just took her straight outside and cleaned up but did not chastise her.   This was not working and the last time she peed in the house she was 8 months old and she just squatted right in front of me in the middle of the living room, she gave no sign that she wanted to go outside.  I was so annoyed I yelled at her and pulled her by her collar outside, she got quite a  fright as I never raise my voice to her but it worked as she hasn't done it in the house again.    She now looks right into your eyes and barks if she needs to go outside but she still does not go to the door.  

All dogs are different, Archie, our terrier, goes round tapping all the chairs if he needs to go out and when he taps the rocking chair he has this look of complete surprise that the chair moved, he stands with a confused look on his face then he taps it again to be sure and is just as surprised the second time that it moved again, it is really funny.   He was a rescue and was 5 years old when we got him so it took us a while to realise that this tapping of chairs meant he needed to go potty.

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Tidus and I have been doing suspisiously well with the potty training. i've been treating everytime he goes outside  and so far he's only had a few minor accidents that were all my fault.

Our first week home, we were home all the time so he was taken outside every hour or so which I think is why we havent had any really bad accidents.

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@sailingaround: Good for you, and Tidus sounds like he is getting the hang of potty time outside!  YAY!