Potty training woa's. :[

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Okay, so far Roxi has it down pat that pottying is done outside.  We almost had a poop accident today, but we made it outside just in time for her to do it in the lawn.  What's getting me frustrated is she still hasn't learned to show us WHEN she's got to go.  We've been taking her to the door and saying "potty" before we take her out, but I'm not sure if it's working.  I've only had her home for a couple of days, so I'm beginning to wonder if it's just me being impatient?

Could it just be me?

How long did it take your puppies to learn to signal when they had to use the potty?

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Yes, I'm afraid you're being very impatient.  While I don't like to compare puppies to babies, sometimes there are similarities.  How long does a baby wear a diaper???  Once a mom does start to potty train a baby, how long does that take?  Think about that, and then consider that you're expecting instant success with your puppy in just 2 days!

Some dogs never give a signal.  You're really expecting a lot. 

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It took us a lond time to potty train Athena and occasionally she will still have an accident.  A lot of time what happens is they play so hard they forget or don't realize they have to potty and once they do its too late to ask.  We also had a hard time getting Athena to tell us when she had to go outside.  Our savior has been 'potty bells'.  They consist of some kind of strap that you can hang on your door and have several large jingle bells on them.  Some petstores sell them or you can make them farely cheap.  They way we tought Athena to use them is when we would take her out to potty we would tap the bells with our hand and say go outside and immedietely take her out.  After a day or so we picked her paw up and tapped the bells and said go outside and then took her out.  Withing a few days she was running to the door and hitting the bells with her nose to go outside.  It has been amazing!  She always asks us to go outside by hitting the bells!

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Oh wow!  I'll have to invest in some!  Kind of like hanging Christmas bells from a doorknob? xD  Today I think she "forgot" she had to go, because she peed on her pillow (not her bed) while we were playing with the Kong.  So, we went to the door - I pointed and said "outside!" (happy tone) - and then we went out.  She didn't pee, so I'm assuming she actually did go.  Normally when she submissively peed, she would still go outside.  I feel like we took one step forward yesterday in potty training, and we've taken 4 steps back :[

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At this point in Roxi's development, she isn't able to understand or control when she potties. She hasn't developed enough yet, mentally or physically. If you don't want her messing in the house, you have to get her outside often enough that she doesn't.

And be careful with this type of thinking, pointing to the door and saying 'outside'. Think about all the steps you're expecting a puppy to comprehend. It's similar to expecting a puppy to understand that she made a mess you find.

A puppy at this age can suddenly take a pee, turn around, and have no idea - in it's fresh little mind - how that puddle got there. When you watch her stretch out her little body and let loose, it might seem intentional - but it's instinctive, like yawning.

Likewise, it's unreasonable to expect a puppy to understand a representative indication gesture (pointing), comprehend the idea that the door is the thing with which we enter the outdoors through, which is the only place we are supposed to potty in, even though she isn't sure what happens or how to control it when messes to appear.

She needs many more weeks, months, before she will be qualified to administrate her own bowel and bladder. Until then, it's up to the ranking members of the pack to predict her little functions and set her up for house-training success. 

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I understand, and basically predicted it was just myself.  I just wanted to know FOR SURE it was me being stupid, for lack of better wording.  It's just hard to tell if she's got her noes to the ground because she's smelling other dogs (explanation in a moment) or because she has to go.  I haven't gotten to know her "hard sniffing" yet.  And I'm a little worried because I go back to work on Tuesday.  I took a "puppy leave" so we can adjust as much as possible before I start my 7.5 hr shifts.  My boyfriend doesn't work at the moment, so he'll be the one taking on duties after I start work again.

As for the "can't tell if she's sniffing or SNIFFING," before we moved into this house the people before us had dogs and then I had a dog before her (I had to put her down :[  She was getting old and her quality of life was diminishing quickly).  I've also had my mom's dog in "our area" and my sister's dog.  So, not only is she adjusting to the new place, but there's PLENTY to keep her little sniffer going.  Maybe I'm the one that needs potty-training training :P  Hahaha

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Dakota is almost 4 months old, and if she's not in her kennel, I take her out once an hour unless she's sleeping.  She will pee every time I take her out.  She has only messed in the house a few times, and only pee, and also only when we haven't taken her out.  The second we see her walk around and start sniffing the floor, it's time to go out.

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Roxi - unfortunately the previous dogs may have made your job a little harder. If they have gone in the house, then Roxi will smell that and be drawn to it. It does not make the job impossible, just a little harder.

The bells are a good idea, but also the frequent trips outside as KevinK has suggested. I had Princess on a 2 hours and out schedule until she was at least 6 months old. I actually didn't even really start working with her until she was 4 months old. Now from she time I got her, I would take her out frequently, carrying her rather than letting her walk so she didn't get that urge and go on the way to the door. When she went outside she got heaps and heap of over the top praise. If she went inside because I was late all she got was a tsk tsk tsk sound to let her know I was not pleased, but no yelling, that is counterproductive with a sensitive dog like a Doberman.

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What do you normally do when she makes a mess in the house?  Is there anything you do or don't do?

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If it's a submissive pee I ignore it/her until I'm done cleaning then I ask her to go potty.  It's getting a LITTLE easier now, we've only had one mess today and that was my fault; I didn't get to her in time.  As far as when she actually makes a mess and I SEE her do it, I point and let her know it's "bad" then I take her to the door and say potty then we go straight outside.  She is learning very quick, and so am I :]

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can anyone help me im have in some trouble potty training. when i let her outside to go sometimes she will go and then come back in side in go again or she will refuse to go out side then come back in and go or she will hide from me and go where ever she can i really dont no what to do? please help me let me no if there is anything i can do.

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Hi All,

 

Have a look at my puppy toilet training guide on my blog, and watch my 8 week old Dobermann puppy toilet on command. He learnt this in just two days! Although I still have to do my job of ensuring I am taking him outside regularily I know that I can use the toilet command and he will do his buisness, then its straight back inside for some toilet free playtime!

http://gofetchit.co.uk/2010/09/27/toilet-training-a-puppy/


Hope this helps!

 

Jo Clarke ACFBA MGoDT APDT

Go Fetch it!

www.gofetchit.co.uk