Potty training problems

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Zoro is pretty good when it comes to pooping. She goes to the same spot everytime. But when it comes to peeing she has no control. She urinates all over the place and inside the home. My mom gets furious when she does this and I keep getting yelled at for bringing her inside. Why is it that she's good when it comes to pooping but doesn't know her place to pee. Aren't they supposed to assume that it is the same spot for both pee and poo? She is six weeks old.

What am I doing wrong?

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6 weeks old, your mother wants to keep her outside, and you guys have no idea why she just pees???  Oh, boy, this is gong to end badly...  I know other parts of the world don't look at their dogs the same was americans do, but geeze...

When you were a month old, did you assume that you were supposed to pee in the toilet?  did you assume that you have to poop in the toilet as well?  Did you say "Hey, ma, can you give me a hand, I have to go to the bathroom"?  Or did you just wet yourself, and then wonder why your leg is wet becauase you couldn't remember doing anything...  Now, imagine you're 1 month old, you wet yourself, and your mother gets upset and starts yelling at you.  insane.

 

You have to bring your dog outside more often.  If you want a happy life for your dog, I woudl start reading everything you can about training, dog behavior, body language, exercise needs, etc.

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She is very young and has a tiny bladder... most say pups don't fully know when they have to go til 6 months or later- Cisco is just now 5.5 months old and is finally getting it. At 8 weeks when we brought him home - we would take him out he would go and not 10 minutes later he would be coppin a squat in middle of the game room... Be consistent - take her out often (like EVERY 10-15 minutes) and crate her when you cant watch her 100%.  (And only leave her enough space to turn around and lay down)

My girl will be 5 months old next saturday so she is about 19 weeks and she is alot better then Cisco was but she has her moments of oops gotta go now!

Just be consistent take her to same door, same spot outside as often as you can!

Good Luck!

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I agree---take her out OFTEN, even if you dont think she has to go, and if by chance, she DOES pee, let her know how happy it makes you Dobermans want to please.  I know that my neighbors thougt I had lost my mind when I would take Ziva outside, encourage her to pee by saying "go potty--go pee--hurry up and potty" and then if and when she actually did, I would clap and tell her what a good girl she was, and how smart she was, it bordered being rediculous, I'm sure, from my neighbor's viewpoint.  Be consistant, and dont expect miracles to happen overnight, but, she will eventually get the idea that outside is the right place to do her business.

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We got Skye at 8 weeks and she did the same thing, poo'd in one place but pee'd EVERYWHERE!! lolz, when they are that little they have no idea when they have to pee, they just do. There is no point in yelling, just say "no no", scoop her up (peeing usually stops with the scoop), and carry her outside. When she finishes peeing, do like Ziva's dad and praise, praise, praise. You should also let your mom know why she's peeing as much and as often as she is. Hopefully she'll listen and stop yelling. From one kid to another(I'm 17), I've been where you are... my mom was the same way and my dad and I had to explain to her why it was going to take awhile.

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@Wolfgirl  - its good to know that there are others like me with similar problems :). Only I don't have my dad to support me as he lives in another country. So at what age did Skye finally understand where she has to go?

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6 weeks, holy smokes that is young!  If you can watch out for when she takes a drink and then take her outside 10-15 minutes later that is usually when they will have to pee(same rule for when she eats).  If you notice she tends to go earlier or later than that adjust your timing accordingly.  If you can establish a routine of bringing her outside to do her thing she will begin to understand that this is where she's supposed to go.  Once she knows that, start watching her for signs that she needs to be let out.  You'll figure out pretty quick what her signals are, whether they are sniffing at the door or around the room, walking around like she is looking for something, etc. 

Be patient and don't get upset when she has accidents!  They will happen...consider it YOUR responsibility to know when she needs out, rather than her responsibility to tell you.  That will come in time.  It takes a good couple of months for them to establish bladder control of longer than a few minutes. 

Good luck!

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Ask your mom the age you were potty trained. She will reflect and hopefully give pup more understanding :) the advice above is just so good. And really imporant to know that when she does understand, there will still be accidents, just like the three year old child who no longer wears pullups. Accidents happen. Just clean up and move on;).
Also, pick one word to use. Zoro has lots to learn with behavior and human language. So keep the words singular and simple in the beginning!

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Crimson, we brought Sophie home at 6 wks, I just watched her and was VERY consistent about taking her out every 20 minutes. Tomorrow she will be 8 wks, and now she has learned to go to the door and whine. Also, IMMEDIATELY after a nap or any sleep, take Zoro to potty right then. While she's little pick her up and take her, don't give her the opportunity to walk around and choose. Once you have her in the designated place give her a cue word. Ours for both, is "go potty." Another thing, that is true with Sophie, is she will pee-pee twice, sometimes poo twice. Can't just run out and right back in, give her time. Patience, and consistency is key! This is the first dog that I have trained to go potty outside, our littles use pp pads. Hope this works, Sophie & Angie

@ 6 weeks a puppy should still be with his littermates. There is a lot that puppies learn from their littermates in this time and they are really not mentally mature enough to go to homes at this point. It is not recommended for puppies to go to new homes until after 8 weeks, keeping in mind that the 8th week is a fear period for puppies.  In fact in some states it is against the law as well it should be to sell a puppy under 8 weeks old! What is done is done for now so no going back and changing things. This puppy is a long ways from being able to be potty trained both mentally and physically.

Originally when we had just a few dogs they were taught to go out to ONE place in the yard and do their business this was a space about 3 by 4 feet in diameter. I had young kids and I didn't want them running around and stepping in poop.  With the way I trained them in the end all I had to do was open the door and tell them to get over there and they would. How I did this was to physically pick them up and carry them to the place starting from the very minute I got up and picked them up out of the crate. I would go to the door holding them and telling them lets go outside and do a good potty. While I walked to the spot I would continually tell them get over there, do a good potty even though I was carrying them to the spot. Once I got to my designated spot they were on a leash I would put them down and say over and over do a good potty. Once they did big praise and tell them what a good potty! Now it is your job as the owner not to go back inside until they have done both poop and pee. If the puppy is to interested in it's surroundings and will not go both then take them back to the house feed and do the same process over again. It is pretty much assumed that once they eat they will need to go again. One of the main reasons I carry the puppy out on a leash besides I want them to go in one area of the yard is that puppies are curious about everything in their surroundings. If they are left to their own then a lot of the time they wont do their business until they get back inside and cant hold it anymore.

The next thing is I never leave the puppy out without being constantly watched. For me this may mean having a leash tied to my belt loop and hooked to the collar of the puppy. If I don't have time to watch them then they are in a crate. As soon as a puppy wakes from a nap, eats or plays for awhile they need to go out. You will want to make as good of a schedule as you can for her. If you haven't researched or thought about crate training I would highly recommend it. People that buy my puppies are given a article that you can find on the DPCA website which is titled super dogs are made not born. You can google this it has great week by week info on what to expect and things you can do with your puppy to make it the best it can be. It also covers different fear periods within the puppies life. I would suggest for you to really read through the articles that they have on the website. These are written by tried and true professionals within the Doberman community.

Good luck with your new baby and remember she is really just an infant that should not have been removed from the litter yet. She will need extra time to learn all that is expected of her. The worst thing you can do is punish her for making a mess in the house. It will take longer for her to learn what you want. Yes they might act like they are sorry and know what they did but in reality THEY DONT!

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great info rnd :)