Peeing in his bed, our bed. Everywhere!

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Hi everyone! I have joined this forum for some help! My puppy is 4 months this week. Since we picked him up at 8 weeks, we have had trouble with potty training. He will go a week without any accidents and then the next 2-3 a week! Take for instance this week. He is somewhat spiteful at times. After we told him to "go to bed" he ran into our bedroom, jumped on the bed (which he has never done before -- he is not allowed on it) and peed right in the middle and on my boyfriend! Then 24 hours later, he pees in his crate after I just washed all of his toys and blankets. Last time I washed his blankets and favorite bear -- he did the same thing, peed on it immediately. 

He has had 2 "poo" accidents in the house and right at a dozen pee instances from 8 weeks until now at 16 weeks. He is taken out frequently. I am always on top of him and he gets a lot of attention. Just in the last week he has gone to the door once or twice on his own, and especially after he makes a mistake. He knows he has done wrong and has a lot of remorse after. 

We tried a push bell that he did not take too, and thinking of getting a ringing bell he can tap with his nose instead. Any suggestions? Is this more of a dominance marking issue than a potty training issue? We are just confused on why he is not picking it up after we have done what the trainer and breeder suggested. 

As far as food/water. His water is always out. He drinks 4-5 bottles a day and eats 3 times scheduled. 

Thanks! 

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I think you have to stop thinking that he's doing it on purpose or doing it out of spite, and realize that he just doesn't get it yet for some reason.  When you say he is taken out frequently, how frequently exactly?  Perhaps what you think is frequent is not frequent enough for a puppy.  When I have a new puppy, I literally take them out every 20 minutes.  If I can't watch them closely, I pop them into their crate until I can.  I don't want to be critical but if you're right on top of him, as you say, how can he be making all of these mistakes?  Are you catching him in the act every time so that you can scoop him up and outside immediately? 

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Hi @Glengate,

Thank you for the advice. I take him out every 30 minutes when he is out of the crate. Most of his accidents are him going right in front of me. So I catch him and he stops but I still consider that a accident. I scoop him up and have to go downstairs (apartment upstairs). A few times he has gone outside and come back into the living room and went again within 5 minutes. I do agree, most of the accidents were my fault for not catching him with his nose down. But when I tell him No, he runs to the door. So I don't know why he isn't responding to my training of getting him to go to the door in the first place. I reward him for "outside" and "pee" and "poo". And as far as the spitefulness I was suggesting, he ran across three rooms to go to the bedroom and had just eliminated outside! 

I will try to take him out maybe every 20 minutes instead. 

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Like Glengate said, I really doubt he's doing it out of spite, or dominance, or anything like that.  He is still young, and just doesn't get it.  Make sure you thoroughly clean any accidents inside... Dogs like to go in "familiar" areas, so if he's smelling urine inside, in his mind, it's ok to go inside.

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Have you had him checked for a UTI?

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He's way too young for dominance peeing. And like we've said, he's not being spiteful. He's a dog. Dogs can't be spiteful - especially not puppies. They simply aren't capable of that level of thought. It they could string together the long line of reasoning and emotion spitefulness requires - they'd be doing art work on their spare time.

If it was intentional at all, which it probably wasn't, jumping on the bed and peeing was more likely a friendly gesture. That's how things are in the dog world. Also, dogs this age are still figuring out how to control all their parts.

2-3 accidents a week isn't bad for a puppy this age - in my experience anyway... Puppies are generally a leaky creature. Like you've said, many of his accidents happen right in front of you. That's not him giving you the finger. That's him being submissive, or just not realizing what his little body is doing.

So - don't get stressed about it, or feel insulted. That's the worst thing you can do. Puppies are impossible to house train when there is stress about. Keep doing what you're doing. After all, it's only puppy-pee. lol

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@Kevin: We have used a lot of carpet cleaner so we are going to try a steamer after Christmas. Hopefully that will lift the remaining of it up!

@AlphaAdmin: Laith is a great puppy. In my classes though our trainer gets after us each week for not having him 'potty trained' yet. He picks up every command we teach him very quickly, so just wasn't sure why this wasn't sticking. Thanks for the advice! 

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For cleaning the carpet you should try a cleaner that is enzymatic, such as Capture pet stain and odor.  Regular cleaners make us think the carpet is clean but really just masks the issue and animals can still smell the pee or poo.  

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@Control Freak: Thanks! I will look for that today -it's his day to the vet and Petsmart etc. :p

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Alot of Cisco's accidents like that- I think are nervous or excited pees... Could that be?

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I don't know, there were times when Freyja was a puppy I swore she was going in the house just for spite.  I kept telling myself, "dogs don't do things for spite" but sometimes it sure seemed that way. :-)

I know at about 4 1/2 months I became so frustrated with Freyja's bathroom habits that I broke down and called my mother, who had helped raise Brutus, the Doberman we had when I was a teenager.  She said that we had a time with him and she didn't think he'd ever get housetrained.  She said just hang in there and Freyja would get it.  Sure enough about a week later Freyja was reliable, it seemed like all of a sudden she "got it" and hasn't had an accident since (she's just over 2 now.)

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I just have to reply to Alpha... it's only puppy pee... hello?  Walk, step in a mistake puddle. "OHH YUCK" from them...   I clean up yucky socks, underware, scrub the yucky toilets, and clean up the vomit when any one in my family is sick, all over a little puppy pee??? are you kidding me?  LMAO, love my puppy

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@Control Freak: I found Urine Gone, a ‘As seen on TV’ product that contains the enzyme.  Today will be testing it on the carpet.

@Cisco9510: The more I think about the freak bedroom incident I wrote about above, I think it was stress. Maybe he just was nervous/stressed with me trying to get him to bed and cleaning up for the night.

@Freyja’s Dad: It does seem that way at times. Right when he was enrolled in puppy class he would stand in front of me, in the middle of play and just pee! Little rascal.

Knock on wood—he is doing a lot better. Now he must  sit and ‘speak’ before going outside by the door. He is slowly understanding to speak when he needs to go.

 @AlphaAdmin: puppy pee is no biggie! The complex I live in may charge me out of the wahhoo if it is noticeable by the time I leave in the next 6 months though. No thanks! J