Ouch biting- help please

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What a great site, being new to the forum I have been trawling through and there is so much fantastic information. Thanks heaps it has been so much help with the new puppy. Ok Snoopy is 15 weeks old. He is pretty good most of the time except for that horror hour early evening when he is getting tired. He becomes a little crocodile. I have tried yelping, exchanging my leg hand or whatever part of my body he has in his teeth for toys etc etc. Sometimes it works but when he is super tired - not a hope. Tonight he was getting very naughty with the biting  so I gave him a time out - outside- for a very short time 15 seconds or so. After doing this twice he behaved got on his bed and settled down. Is this something I should continue doing when he is beyond control or should I keep trying with the toy thing. Overall hes really good with most things but hes getting bigger and his teeth are starting to sink further and further into my skin.

Thanks for any help.

Welcome to the site and glad to have ya !

A 15 week old puppy , as you know , have very sharp , or I should say , tailor's needles for teeth . I'm gonna guess Snoopy is about 25 lbs . Now if you think it's bad now , if this behaviour is not corrected now you'll soon find out that adult teeth hurt much worse not to mention a dobe can devourer sofa in less time than a top fuel dragster can run a quarter mile and draw blood quicker than dracula .

Time outs , in my opinion , don't help . A puppy has the attention span of a gnat . The puppy does not understand why he's being put outside so you'll have do something that will sink in . If the puppy's mother was having this problem , she would bark and/or snap at him . When Snoopy puts his mouth on your hands or legs a good and deep " NO !! " ( this will sound like a bark ) followed by a brief moment of ignoring him ( brief meaning 10 to 15 seconds . Remembering the gnat ) .  If the mouthing continues , then implement the snap ( read bite ) . Two fingers sharply into his shoulder at the same time as your best bark then ignoring . Then carry on as usual as if nothing has happened .  

I keep PLENTY of rawhide chews available . My house almost looks like a cattle rendering plant . These are what is his . At any time he puts something in his mouth , like your shoes , towel , pillow or kitchen table ( these are not his . And may I add , objects in the above list should never be given to him as toys . He cannot tell the difference between that old sneeker and the brand new reboks you just paid $100.00 for ), you should snatch the object out of his mouth at the same time barking NO then replacing the DVD player thats in his mouth with one of his chew toys followed by a pat on the head and a "atta boy" . No need to ignor here .

This has worked for me in the past and think it may help you and Snoopy .

    

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It seems you've already identified that Snoopy acts up when he's tired so why wouldn't you just put him in his crate for some sleep?  I find the same thing, by the way - puppies are like kids in that respect.  They do tend to get bratty when they're tired and start acting out.  And while some think oh, my puppy needs more exercise, I think ah, my puppy needs a nap. 

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Ah yes, the crate, stupidly enough I did not go down that track with Snoopy .

What a good idea with the rawhides, I usually give him those when I head off to work but I think I might stock up on them and trade them for whatever piece of me hes decided to chew. I tried numerous times with the toys but its not exciting enough and the trainer at puppy school said to try the time out thing with him when he gets into that out of control stage.   Yes those teeth do hurt , I had forgotten how much . Defnitley like a tired child where the more tired they are the worse they are. Hes also quite a big boy- 18kgs - 39 pounds so they really hurt when hes in wild dog mood. Is it worth trying to put No Bite command when stopping him from biting so eventually he knows he is not to bite .

 

What ever command you would like to use , no bite , off , honysuckle , the words don't matter . As long as it's the same command for a action . Consistency is the key in any training/command .

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I laughed when I read this post.  It reminded me so much of our Gunnar especially the comment "He becomes a little crocodile."  Will have to check to see when he starts his biting, etc. and whether he does it when he's tired.  Makes sense if so.

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We have nicknamed our 9 wk old "Gator" because of the exact same thing! I think I will try the rawhides as well... I was starting to think I got demon dobe, as my last dobe was so sweet and gentle, she never really did this!

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Our last dobe was gentle and sweet too.  I don't remember a time when we ever were concerned about him biting.  Our new one does the gator thing.  I hold his mouth closed and he stops immediately.  Its just a matter of getting a hold of his mouth :).  He usually does this later in the evening.  He's teething now and that would explain why he wants to chew and bite, so we give him a bone to chew on.  He'll chew the bone for hours.  I keep the bone in the fridge, so its cold, which helps numb the pain in his gums.  This was recommended by the vet.  There's also chew toys designed for teething, which go in the fridge or freezer.  They also work great.  Since we've started that the biting gator thing seems to have lessened.

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Maybe I will try the freezing of his teething bones- He is 10 wks and mouthing and nipping and biting anything that isn't tied down.