New Pup with kids and cats

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Hi, I am fairly new and have some questions.  I have twin girls that are 3 and am a little concerned about bringing a puppy home.  I also have two cats that I think will adapt well but am not sure.  They have been around small dogs and hold their own quite well.  Any advice on the kids and the new pup.  I won't be getting one for awhile but still welcome any advice.  Also, I will be working when we get a pup so advice on crate training.  My husband will be close to home and I should be as well while working so we plan on at least one of us making a stop at home for lunch to take the dog out and give him some play time.  Again, any advice will be welcome.  I love this forum and enjoy reading the posts I am learning a ton. :)  I forgot to mention that I fully plan on obidience training right away that way the dog will know no to bite and jump on the kids that is very important to me.

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Its been over 35 years since I bred a litter and one of my rules unless the perspective owners were very very experienced dog people would be to wait till the youngest child is atleast 6 years old. Theres no doubt that some ruff play will happen and even a pup running by can take anyone right off their feet. I know theres people that won't listen to my advice on this subject but years ago there would be NO Dobermann breeder that would sell a pup to a family with babies and toddlers, if you think about a pup running and playing and the balance of a 3 year old you might reconsider your decision.

A few years to wait is not a terrible choice your children are just pups now and at 6 years old they can actually take part in the raising of a pup. You can give some valuable responsibilty lessons using the pup and they can gain alot knowledge just taking part in the pups developement. Hope this makes sense to you. Von 

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Von, thanks for the input on waiting.  I have considered it and understand what you are saying.  The breeder and I discussed this in detail.  If I get a pup it would not be until my girls are at least 4 so I feel a bit better about that.  If I chose to wait do you know of any breeders in the Las Vegas area?  I can not find much on the web in this area.  I am also going to see if there are any dog shows or training sessions that I might be able to attend so I can get an idea of what I am going to be up against :).  I am super excited about the possibility of getting a dog so I am researching it now.  What are your thoughts on my cat situation?  I am curious what a pup will do to them.  

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Welcome to the forum!  The cats will adjust just fine, and by the sounds of it will have no trouble putting a new pup in its place lol.  Even a dobe with high prey drive can learn to coexist with cats, especially if they are introduced when the dog is still a puppy. 

Having toddlers with a doberman is totally doable, it just requires some work on your part.  I live in a split house and the neighbours have a 3 year old boy.  My female Dakota just turned one in June and she is FANTASTIC with him.  They play together all the time and she is very gentle, no matter how worked up he gets.  There are a few threads on here about having young kids and dobes together, I'll see if I can find them for you. 

I recommend that you get your daughters involved in the training from the get go.  3-4 is young, but they can still use basic commands like "sit" and "down."  It's important that they learn how to treat the dog, and involving them in training will help build their confidence in this.  It's also important that the pup learns from the beginning that the kids are higher in the pack than he/she is, and gets used to taking commands from children. 

I would also recommend getting a female as a first pup.  They tend to mature quicker mentally than the males, take to training a little easier and will probably be protective of your girls and mother them a little bit.  Of course get your breeder's input on that - they may have a very mellow male pup that would do just as well.  That's just been my experience so I thought I'd pass it along. :)

Dakota and Spencer  :)

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Adult cats will almost always have the upper hand over a little pup so I like that situation much better than introducing a kitten or cat into a home with an adult Dobermann. If the dog has high prey drive your in for alot of training and many times your up against nature that won't quit.

If you know what kind of dog you need to match your families life style that will make it easier to find a breeder that breeds the characteristics you like. Most people start out thinking about male vs female and color options then size. The most important thing to consider is the dogs temperament and character then the sex and color options and all the rest are decided. Again folks think a Dobermann is a Dobermann and thats not true at all. There are breeders that breed for specific tasks that coinside with a certain character. Think about you and your families activity level and thats a good start. I have listings of breeders all over the world and I always suggest you buy as close to home as possible unless you have certain needs that aren't avalible. You can look at the DPCA listings of breeders in your area but remember there are lots of breeders afiliated with organization that seem to be honorable but fact is theres poor imitation breeders everywhere. Because a litter is akc registered doesn't mean the breeder knows anything about pair the right dogs to breed or if they should be bred at all. Von

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Sweatpea, thanks for your input.  I am still debating on the age of my kids and a dog.  I have stairs in my house so I am nervous about that.  I think that my husband and I have decided to wait a little longer before getting a pup.  We are military so I know that we will move at least three more times before he retires .  I am thinking that it might be best to wait till we get to our next duty station.  I also want to make sure that I will have the proper time to dedicate to a pup.  I am going to stay on this site though just because there is a ton of great info on here. The pic of your son and your dobe is too cute.  I know that a pup and my girls would probably be ok but they have had some bad experiences with little dogs jumping and scratching them so they won't even approach a dog.  I find this sad because I love dogs.  I did take them to one of the pet stores and they were able to pet a female dobe that was a wonderful experience for them.  She was so gentle and never once jumped on them.  Now personally I would not purchase from a pet store but it was good for them to see that not all dogs jump.  One question though for you is, why a female first?  I have always wanted a male dogs and have found females to be kind of snooty I guess is the word.  Now that might depend on breed.  Thanks again for all your info.  

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Von, to be honest male vs female is not a deal breaker for me.  If a female would fit my family best then so be it.  Yes, my cats hold there own which is hilarious to me.  I have an abbysinian and a DSH female the abby is  a male.  He holds his own well with my mother-in-laws chihuahuas.  

Now my family is moderatley active my husband and I do go to the gym so agility was one of the sports I really wanted to get into with a dobe.  I also posted to Sweatpea that my kids have had some bad experiences with small dogs and one very huge dreat dane so I am slowly introducing them to dogs.  They seem to really like dobes whenever we see one they point it out and want to pet it.  I do have a daughter with some eye issues so I was worried about the stars with a dog.  She has had two eye surgeries but wears glasses and seems to do just fine in her daily activities she is three so tons of energy.  I wish that I could bottle some of it for myself.  i am also hoping to get a job here soon so I am not sure how fair that would be to a pup either.  I am hoping to work for awhile then get a pup that way I can take some time off to spend with the pup for potty training and such.  Lot's of decisions to make and not sure which way to go.  But all of the imput here is appreciated no matter what it is.  I have a few friends that have had dobes and they have loved them.  Well, thanks again.

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Hello and welcome!  I just wanted to interject that you mentioned that you were in the military.  There are threads on this site to refer to, but I seem to be thinking that Dobermans are on the banned breed list for military housing.  I don't know your situation, but if you do live on a base, be sure to check into it.  About the small children---IMO, it's not so much the breed of dog, it's the size.  Any puppy can get rambuncious and can accidentally knock down a small child, or nip a little too hard in play.  My female doberman is luckily pretty laid back, but she can get wound up and excited when she plays.  She has no fear of little kids, in fact she loves everybody, so temperment of a pup is something you want to focus on.  There are plenty of children that grew up with large dogs that managed to survive.

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Happydance, thanks for the response.  Yes, we are military but we do not live on post so no problems there.  Now we did encounter a renter who did not allow dobermans so we did not rent there.  I think that the kids and cats will be fine.  Now it is just finding the right time to get a pup.  I agree with Von when he said to try to stay close to home with the purchase of a pup.  I am in North Las Vegas and the breeder I am or was talking to is in PHX.  I would travel but really did not want to.  I did email a couple breeders here in Vegas thanks to Von I found them on the DPCA website.  We shall see what they say.  I agree also that I need to look more for temperment than male vs female.  I am partial to the black and tan look but I am not sure that color has much to do with temperment.  Our next duty station will most likley be in Georigia so I am debating on whether I should wait till we move there which won't be for at least two years or if I should get a pup in a year after I have started work and the girls get into pre-k.  That is what I am debating.  By the way any questions that you might ask a breeder to determine if he or she is a quality breeder?  

Thanks, Amy