New Doberman pup concerns!

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Hey everyone i just recently came across this forum and decided to join seeing as i recently got my doberman pup i have been waiting on for what feels like FOREVER! We made our 5 hour trip to pick him and and have had him here at home for about a week, His name is Dobie and he is 6 weeks old (i know, not ideal age). He seems to be doing great with out year old dachshund, and is quite entertaining! My concerns are that when we got him he was eating puppy chow which i thought to be the cause of some really runny poop! I got him blue buffalo and its been back and forth between soft and runny poop. I am sure its not a big deal and prolly the transition between foods or something but i figured i would ask! He has had no shots yet but it is going to be starting really soon, and i just wanted to know if he should be kept away from our ferrets or not. I want him to be around them as soon as possible so i can teach him that they are not food or his play toys hahaha! Lastly, i wanted to gets some more tips on training him commands i know he is young but i am really trying to enforce the NO and POTTY and OUTSIDE commands to him, i just want to know how i can better associate something with NO so he knows its bad. i feel like he constantly tests me haha! any help would be AWESOME! thanks so much.

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Oh boy will you get alot of help on this one, :)) so many have dealt with these issues and can be of such help to you.....congrats on your new addition, did you mix his old food in with the new to transition him over to the new food?? if not could be part of the runny poop issue ......and is your dachsund male or female inquiring minds want to know.......

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Welcome to the forum - there's lots of info here, and I would suggest reading as much as you can!

As for the runny poop - because the breeder let you take that puppy at too young an age, the possibility that he was not taken care of well is there. I would start with a vet check up, including checking for parasites, which can cause diarrhea.

Second - he's just a baby. For you to be "teaching" him anything at this point - well, he's just too young. You want to use positive reinforcement, not teaching him that anything is bad. That means you do your job - crate training, then first thing out of the crate - OUTSIDE. Feeding him - OUTSIDE. If you can't keep an eye on him constantly, put him in the crate. Make a huge fuss when he DOES go outside - not trying to punish him for having an accident inside.

Dobermans in particular (and all dogs, IMO) want to please you. Use that. Positive reinforcement will go a lot farther than negative.

Again, he is NOT testing you. He is a baby, and he doesn't understand.

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Your puppy is very young and here I don't think you would get a puppy that young so can't help with the feeding sorry. I think its quite young to be trying to train him but have you thought about putting newspaper or puppy training pads down and encouraging to go on those maybe by a door? So its heading in the right direction? That's what I would do but not sure if thats right. I second a trip to the VETS. 

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 Hello xzmoorex!

 

 Congrats on your new family member! And welcome to the forum.  It's so exciting having a puppy around, you must be thrilled :) Be sure to take LOADS  of pictures. I got my doberboy at three months (he's now 5m) and I wish I had baby pictures of him to oogle at.. they grow so fast!

About the potty situation.. between the stress level of having a new home and the change in diets he can be having tummy issues, it's typical. This may go on for a while depending on how positive his interactions are with his new family, new smells, missing his doberfamily ect. One thing you may also consider (which would be wise) is taking him to the vet so they may take stool sample just to be sure he has no bugs.. food for thought.

In my opinion I would not be training him NO. He's a baby! Where were you at 6 weeks old? Lol, the precious boy will only be stressed out more and could learn to be frightend of you. Instead I would concentrate on building a relationship with him and learn to trust you and WANT to be around you.

Theres very good articles on potty training here in this forum that I suggest you check out. Educate yourself for a method that would work best for your whole family, begin that routin and be consistant with it. I hope this helps. :)

Good luck with your little rascle. They are a labor of love but TOTALLY worth it!!

 

 Aurora & Havok

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When switching food at any age try this method to avoid stomached upset, and runny poop.  If you switch food too fast, it upsets them.  This is from Lady Kate on an older post:  she had also recommended pumpkin purée, not the pie filling for upset stomach and runs.  I now keep some that I froze originally in an ice cube tray, popped them out and saved them in the freezer in a ziplock bag for future use.  This way I have small amounts for the dogs later.

Switching dog food formula:

75% old stuff, 25% new: for three days

then 50% old, 50% new: another three days

then 25% old 75% new: the final one three days..

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hahahaha well good! My dachsund is a boy named otis and is such a great little guy!

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thanks for all the feedback! I wanted everyone to know that i am not REALLY punisihing him at all just try and say no and then we go outside for a little bit to see if he has anything else. Other than that i take him out roughly every 45 minutes (even through the night). This past night was our first night accident free WOOT WOOT! I have been taking a ton of pictures and will try posting some on here soon enough! I do have a crate and we do use it when leaving, its rather big and the back half is his bed and some toys. He is really good about not going in there when we leave, so that is a plus! I dont know if its a bad thing or not but i have been letting him sleep with us just like our dachsund does. I will for sure take him to the vet and get him all looked at!  i appreciate so much feedback, i would have directly replied to everyone i just need to figure out how to use the forum a little more :P

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Well... seeing as your dachshund is a boy, you are in for some possible trouble. Male dobermans are notoriously same-sex aggressive. Usually it's not a case of "if" it will happen, but "when". Many people have had no problem, but most have major issues having two males in the house. It's not something you can train out of them, and it's not something you can fix. It's just a natural thing we have to deal with to have our wonderful dogs. I'm not trying to be harsh or scare you, just give you the facts. You need to be prepared for the time when they start fighting and you will have to keep them separated 24/7. Now, I'm not saying to never let them interact, just when it gets to that point, don't let them near each other. Some dogs are fine with other males up to 3 yrs, and then just go after the other male. Once Dobie hits 10 months, separate them for the safety of Otis. Again, not trying to scare you, just giving you MHO. 

Good luck with your new pup!! 

Joy

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so do you think this is a forsure thing? i mean they play together an awful lot and are respectful of each other. We also take Dobie around as many other dogs as we can to make him as social as possible. I would also like to know things we can do to help because if that is really a big deal then i might have a really huge problem on my hands! Thanks for letting me know, im not too scared just more worried than anything!

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Yes it will happen, it's my understanding from all the posts here that you get a false sense of security in the fact that while the doberman is still a young dog up till 2 years old you will see play and acceptance but then one day for what you might think is no reason at all the doberman and the other male will get into a fight and big dog versus little dog usually ends ugly and violent. And it happens in the blink of an eye. For the owner it comes as surprise cause you get into that one to two year period of acceptance and play and then figure nothing will happen, you feel you have gotten over the hump when you actually haven't hit it yet. It will happen, so be aware you will have to begin to rotate your dogs at some point. I actually have to rotate my cats due to fights I can't imagine dogs that want to fight.......you can locate and read DJ's Dad's posts and many others about having to rehome one of their dogs due to same sex aggression.......

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where can i find that post?!

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try going to the top of these pages  where it shows HOME/SEARCH/ACCOUNT click on SEARCH and typing in DJ's Dad or Kevin posts etc. and see what pops up I am not good at remembering how long ago posts were but I am sure that DJ's Dad can give you a heads up on when he had to rehome Ziva and that might give you a good place to start..... hope that helps.....

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Same Sex agression is not a guarrentee but it isn't uncommon either.  if your dogs personality is less dominant you probably won't have an issue.  If he's a dominant dog and your Dachshund isn't then probably no issue either but you need to do some reasearch in case.

 

The size difference alone will mean you need to not allow them to play rough together.  It might be cute for the next 2 months but when your Doberman is 40 lbs and he stomps on your Dachshund it's not so cute anymore and he will just keep getting bigger.  Don't let him do anything now that he shouldn't do at 80 lbs.

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This is not what you want to hear, but i would return this dog asap.  You have a 6 week old male, already have a small male, and who knows what kinds of problems will develop from this kind of breeding.  I would suggest doing some research on the breed, what age is appropriate for dogs to leave their mothers, and how dobermans tend to react to dogs of the same sex