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Hello, I am new to this site. I have a 9 week old male Doberman. He has been with me for 1 week. I am slowly introducing him to new things, like the sprinkler, kiddy pool, leaves, lawn mower, vaccum, broom, bikes, scooters, small dogs (only known dogs)(no public places), children and friends. I would love for him to walk down the street with me to my sons bus stop but he wont budge. I am able to get him to feel comfortable on leash in the front yard. When my son is with me Chief will become distracted and want to play so he will chase my son. We were able to get him to walk about 2 houses away. He then realized and sat down and wont move (sometimes will even lay down in the middle of the street). If I say "OK" "lets go home. He will get up, turn around and go home without stopping. 

I also read that if I drive him down the street and park, he will walk home. I tried this and it works. But is this behavior normal? And should I just keep trying everyday? I dont want to stress him out. 

 

He seems to be afraid of just the walk itself. He is timid with noises but quickly gets over it. Doesn't mind children, dogs barking, or cars. He will just sit & stay, then walk again. But only home, never away from home.

He is extremely comfortable in the fenced yard. And could careless about who is over or comes through the gate.

 

Any Advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Oh dear.. where do we start?? Your baby is just that.. a baby.. he shouldn't be on the street AT ALL..not until he's had all his shots..

He's been with his littermates for so long of course he's confused and a little fearful of new things.. try keeping him in your yard and on his leash at all times when you're outside..

Puppies do go through a few fearful phases and at different times.. I"m glad you're only allowing him around the other dogs that you knw ( FOR SURE) have been fully innoculated..

He's a cutie that's for sure.. and BTW welcome to the Forum.. we're happy you and Chief are here.

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I only have one doberman but have trained many dogs, helped out friends and families with theirs. Have you tried leading him with his favorite toy or treat? When he acts this way what exactly do you do? From what I read your dobes training you (as they do a lot with inexperienced people because theyre soooo intelligent) from your post it seems hes training you as to when he wants the walk to end, because everytime he sits down you give him exactly what he wants to go back. Id say ignore him and drag him down the street, dont make any noises or gestures just keep walking, because when he gets older he'll be very strong! He'll be able to drag 200lbs if he wants so look at it this way either take control now, show him your the boss and you want to keep walking and youre going to keep walking otherwise in a year he maybe just dragging you around, walk your dog dont let him walk you! I know they're not wolves but their brains process stuff similar, so in a wolf pack that wolf would be sitting there watching the pack walk away they'd eventually get up and follow cause they dont want to be left behind. You could try something similar on a long lead with treats and a vacant street just to be safe. My dobe when he was 4 months old wouldnt walk past a bison farm cause he'd look in the fence see those big things and turn chicken, but from 2 months I taught him to respect me because im the leader! One day he slipped out of his collar walking by, I didnt go towards him at all instead I took off running in the direction we were headed, he immediately started running towards me not minding the buffalo anymore because he didnt want to be left behind, pack nature. Not saying you, so dont take offense but a lot of peoples dogs become the boss or alpha because humans dont understand how dogs minds work and often treat them like humans which is okay after all boundaries, limitations, rules and hierarchy is established. As for my three dogs, I couldnt be any happier, some would say their lifes boring or sad, I dont allow play indoors or outdoors between my dogs because dobes have potential to be same sex aggressive and I want my dog to bond with me not my other dogs which comes natural to them. They also dont do anything all day inside but lay on dog beds, rugs, wood floors and or couches,  they do what I say, where I tell them to lay is where they go, they dont bark, growl or whine ever. Because my word is law to them, and guests always say your dogs seem so content, relaxed and they listen so well. Always teach your dog to listen when you give first command, NEVER EVER EVER repeat commands after saying once if they dont do it, enforce it.  Some dogs are born followers, some leaders, but ultimately you need to be the leader! It can be a life or death situation.

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Training should start from day one. It does with the mother dog. And yes he should be vaccinated fully, I assumed he was.

Don't EVER drag a puppy by a leash!!!  He is a baby.... so baby steps are called for.  Bring treats and if he walks a little farther then praise him and stop for the day.  Above all, he needs to be protected at this age. Every week, you will make a bit more progress. Make it fun and he will learn to look forward to leash walks.

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Thank you for the advice. Though I am sure if I wait until ALL his shots are done he will be old enough to be set in his ways. Yes I agree he is a baby but I am a firm believer in socializing and doing just that but at his pace. 

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Thank you Buddha, Though I do not agree at all with your advice I appreciate you trying to help. I am firm with his training and behavior. But when it comes to walking/socializing I do not believe that forcing this issue will be good for his temperment. I WILL NOT DRAG MY PUP DOWN THE STREET! EVER

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Thank you Fitzmar, 

I have been trying to walk him everyday little by little. He is now going a little further as he is getting used to his surroundings. He is very cute. When he gets close enough to see or smell home he walks very nice. He still struggles with leaving the yard. Its going to be tough getting him to learn the difference between not leaving the yard when leash is off and that its ok when the leash is on. I did go back to work on Tuesday and crated him for a couple of hours, when i got home he went potty and ate and he then walked very well. So maybe things will pick up. He is definitely less nervous now and knows everyone in the neighborhood. :)

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Bless him, he's only very small still. We didnt start leash training (indoors) until about 11 weeks and then she was fully immunised at 13 and we did outside. Puppies have a very clingy mentality, if you walk out in front a couple of feet he should want to follow you but this may need to be enforced with treats or a toy like Fitz said. You shouldnt really be putting your pup down on the floor in areas where rats and unvaccinated dogs/foxes/wolves may have defecated until he is fully vaccinated. My breeder recommended taking my pup everywhere with me to meet people but held in my arms before she was fully vaccinated so as not to slow socialisation and desensitising them to noises.

Don't worry soon he will be attempting to drag YOU down the street and then you'll have a whole new ball game, learning loose leash haha.