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Urrghh, I'm so frustrated!  Sorry but I have to vent.  I hope things aren't totally gone south with the housebreaking.

My neighbor's dogs repeatedly, ( at least once a week) dig under the fence and enjoy my backyard.  I have no idea what the obsession is, other than they're bored.  The instigator is a little terrier mix, "Emmie".  The other two are a chocolate lab X chessie intact male, and a spayed yellow lab.  I have a pool, and I could understand it if they wanted to go for a swim, but they don't.  In fact, when they're back there I have to keep vigil if one falls in. They don't know where the steps are and could easily drown.  I've yanked both of them out of the water.  Emmie sits on the diving board, totally enjoying her handiwork.

I know how to handle dogs, etc, so don't think I can't handle this situation.  The problem is that I can't get through the gate into my neighbor's back yard to return them.  Plus Emmie is into the catch me if you can game.  We are friends with this neighbor and I wouldn't want that to change.  When I call him and can manage to get ahold of him, he will come home and deal with it temporarily.

This valley where I live is inundated with parvo, and they had a positive pup next door last year.  The neighbor's dad just lost a one year old "sorta vaccinated" lab last week.  I know that the neighbor's dogs go visit that property.

I have my porch fenced off so that Fancy can't get back into the back yard, but the little dogs can get underneath it.  I have bleached and bleached.  But everytime the dogs break in I have to pick up their poop and rebleach.  Plus, the male lab and my min pin aren't going to see eye to eye and I'm scared for his life.

Needless to say, I will not let my fully vaccinated puppy to step foot outside.  The problem is, she goes to the door when she wants to go out, and I can't let her.  What a mixed message!  I have had to resort to puppy pads in front of the door.   Argggg!

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I understand your want to stay friends with this person, but it sounds like he isnt getting the picture, and might need a stronger approach. He is not only letting his dogs endanger themselves, but your dogs as well. He is turning your backyard into his backyard...I would tell him to invest in invisible fencing or some other option of keeping his dogs in his own yard or next time they escape you might be forced to notify animal services.

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It sounds like you're going to have to install some fencing underground where they're digging in?  Or large landscaping rocks?  In the meantime, I'd try piling all of your dogs' droppings where they're coming in as they're not likely to want to dig in that. 

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I've already put the boulders that I can carry into the holes, plus my cast iron tables and anything else I can grab to fill the holes.  I have fairly small river rock all around the pool up to the cement.  I shovel them back in and fill the holes. He throws logs in on his side.  He is really trying to be nice about this. He said that he needs to dig a trench and fill it in with cement.  Yes, but.... nada so far.   ( OH, my back isn't what it used to be, this is a hard thing for me to do.) 

He has a cyclone run in his back yard that he used to put the male in.  If he does that, the dogs bark all day, then he gets complaints about that, including me.  They start at about 5 am.  I can go out and tell them to be quiet or settle because they know me, but it can go on for hours.

I don't think I should have to invest in invisible fencing, not my dogs doing the problem, but if it means protecting my dogs, I guess I'll have to.

He takes his dogs out running once in a while, but being raised with labs, (hunting and field trial dogs) I know that it takes more than once in a while with them.  They're just bored.

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Well, that's the thing - as you said, it shouldn't be your problem to prevent his dogs from coming into your yard.  It's his job.  But he's a failure at it, and probably doesn't give a crap so unfortunately, it falls to you since it's bothering you.  :-(

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Yes, Glengate, it's unfortunate, but it's my job to protect my dogs, as it was my children.  But,  I'm kinda wondering what kind of damage is done now by totally backtracking on the housebreaking thing. 

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I should ad that we had a bout of diarrhea, I'm thinking it was a combo of the chewies I gave her and not really adjusting to the new food I was trying to switch her over to. No worries about that, put her back on her old food and she's fine.  But stools are fine now, and she does it on the puppy pads because she can't go out.  With the diarrhea it was all over the place with no control.. at least she's trying now!

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Happydance~~

My suggestion is that your write down a list of everything that is troubling you. Read it, edit it, and rewrite it...make copies

Invite your neighbor over for  cup of coffee with lists in hand.

Go over each and every point and explain how dangerous it is, how you are fearful of his dogs getting hurt while you're away..the deadly parvo disease, the impossibility of potty training your baby.. etc etc.. go over each point with explanations.

Give him a time limit to get the fence repaired.. you might even have to chip in for a day worker to come and fix it.  Yes.. it is HIS responsibility, but it doesn't' sound like he gives a rip! 

You stated that 'we are friends with this neighbor and I wouldn't want that to change" Doesn't sound like a friend to me.

Good luck.. and I do agree with Glengate about the droppings, but I wouldn't pile them up in MY yard, I'd shovel them up and toss them over the fence.

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Wow, what a dilema you have.  I used to have a 30 lb terrier mix that would dig under my fence just to roam around the neighborhood.  I tried plugging up the holes he dug with boulders and anything that would work, but he would just dig a new hole.  I ended up having to dig a trench around my fence border and put chicken wire down about 12 inches deep, then cover it back up.  That stopped him.  If your neighbor is concerned enough about his dogs causing you so much trouble and making the whole situation impossible for you to live with, then he will DO something about his dogs.  I hate more than anything to see dogs tied or cabled outside, but sometimes it has to be done to keep them inside their own property lines.

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For the housetraining issue, I agree that you're probably backtracking.  Couldn't you get an ex-pen to set up outside your door?  You could take her to that area.  It would be her area alone and you could easily bleach it, keep it clean. 

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Thanks all for letting me vent and the input.  Happy Thanksgiving to all!

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sorry but your neighbor sounds like an idiot/irresposible pet owner and if it were me I would go right over and "lay down the law" and tell him keep his pets in his yard!! NO WAY would I accept my neighbors dogs coming onto my property and THEN picking up their crap!I would phone or go to door of pet owner everytime and tell him your dog just crapped in my yard it needs picked up NOW and please DO NOT LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN!!!! plus remind him his dogs ARE destroying YOUR property!!!

Sometimes neighbors can be a real pain . I'm with LK , do the list thing . But before I gave him the list though I would put a cattle shock wire along the fence near the ground where their dogs dig under so that when they got their little wet noses on my side they would most certainly go back to their side . It wouldn't cause them any physical harm but they WILL remember the sting and wont go under your fence anymore .

The wire will also keep your dogs away from the fence giving at least a few feet between your yard and the neighbors yard , sorta like a buffer zone , and help keep parvo laden poop on his side . It sounds harsh and maybe so but after a week or two the wire doesn't even have to be on , just there .

Once they learn what the wire means , they don't go near it . So if you don't want your dogs in a certain place in your yard (flower beds , trash can area) , just put up a peice of wire , not charged , and they will stay away .

P.S. Beware of local ordinances !

P.S.S. If the neighbor says anything just remind him that the wire is on your side of the fence and keep his dogs on his side .

P.S.S.S. cf33 sounds like me . I just wouldn't say "please" much .

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We used to have a Brittany, a wonderful girl. She was great in the backyard until she was about five when her Cocker Spaniel buddy died at age 16. She got lonely and decided to go visiting and would vault our stockade fence. I set out and electric cattle fence at the only areas where she could get enough of a run to jump and then watched from a window. She hit the wire, yelped and just decided to deal with the pain and was out again in 5 minutes!

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you are a way nicer more patient person than me..:)  I'd have already piled all the dog crap right on their front door step with a note that said to keep their little rugrats in their own yard.  I would also call animal control - After a couple times of coming out to pick them up I believe Animal Control charges to get them back.  When it starts costing the neighbor money to allow his dogs to do what they want it may sink in.