Jumping? Had stopped, but starting again

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Hey Guys!!  Niko is 10 months-old now, getting huge!! LOL  His training has been going really well.  All except for one area, we had gotten him to the point where he no longer jumped up on people for attention, to say hi, or play.  The last 2 weeks he has regressed back to doing it again.  I was wondering if anyone had any experience with their dobie backsliding like this and what may cause it.

I am doing the same things as I did before to break him of it.  I'll bring my knee up, turn away, ignore him.  I have also been trying telling him "Down" and no attention until he stops.  Down side is he is very big now, and he can hurt someone.  IDK what to do.  It's very unlike him to be disobedient.  He listens and does everything else I ask and expect of him, but this.

Well bottom line is you are the boss. He is 10mo old and should not be allowed to jump on anyone. Now don't get me wrong I'm about the most positive reinforcement trainer you could ever meet but sometimes you need to be hands on and let them know you are not going to accept that behavior. You may have to back up and reinforce with intentional training so that he is able to be corrected when this happens, assuming he has already been taught that jumping on people is not a good thing. At some point he is not the puppy anymore and turning away kneeing him is not going to work. A leash and setting him up for it to happen with a good correction is what is needed, then you quickly show him what is expected and praise in that position. If he only does this when you get home  then he needs to have a collar that you are able to grab and firmly let him know that this will not be acceptable, meaning you will be hands on! He is not a baby it is a dog and a growing big dog that allowed to get away with this like you said may hurt someone. I GUARANTEE a few good corrections and he will not be doing this anymore.

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Thank you RND, he does know it's not acceptable.  He just started doing it again these last 2 weeks. I'll try your idea, thanks.

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Totally agree w/ RND....DJ went through the same phase, at about 10 months old.  She had been taught from the very beginning that jumping on people was NOT acceptable, but I came in the front door one day, and she surprized me with a massive leap, straight up, feet planted in my chest, and nearly knocked me back out the door.  That was the first time she did that, and the last time she got away with it without an immediate correction.  Kneeing her or turning my back only seemed like a game to her at this point, so I did exactly what Desiree described...grabbed her collar as soon as her feet started to leave the floor, yanked her back down with a 'SIT' command, made her sit for 5 seconds, then praised her.  I think I only had to do that a handful of times and she learned to not jump.  I think sometimes at that age, they still think they are little, and just are not ready to accept the fact that they are huge, powerful dogs.  LOL

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LOL, DJ's Dad!!  I can't see sweet little DJ jumping on you like I mountain lion!!  But, it does make me feel better that other people had the same problem.  Last night I got my chance to put RND's advice to work.  I had let Boss and Niko in our fenced in area out back to play and potty.  Normally, when I call them back inside our breezeway they run like wild horses until they are inside and then they bounce in place for a minute and then we "Sit" and go in the house.

Since Niko has started jumping again this process has not been so smooth.  I called them in, Boss did his thing (I swear he's got a little Tigger in him! )  I was waiting for Niko to make his bound, and he did, he came running in, circled Boss and then got that excited, "Oh Gosh, it's MOMMY!!" look on his face and came right at me and started to jump up on me.  I got a hold of his collar, told him "NO JUMP", put him in a sit and made him "Watch Me" for a few seconds then lots of praise.  He looked quite surprised when his pounce attack was countered.  It was almost a "Hey, No Fair!" kinda look.  I'm sure it will take a few more times before he stops it altogether, again.  But, this morning when we woke up and went out to potty; another time he likes to try and get me.  He didn't, he came at me like he was going to, but I put up one finger and said "Uh-Uh" and he detoured quickly. 

Now I just have to teach the hubby how to do that without hurting Niko, my hubby wouldn't hurt him deliberately, but he doesn't always realize how strong he is.  And of course the kids, that shouldn't be too bad because they have been pretty active in caring for Niko and I let them do some training with him when they are here.

I'm hoping that he realizes that it's not good to jump on ANYONE, not just his family!!  He's pretty smart, but BOY OH BOY that stubborn streak I've heard of with the doberdudes is fierce!! LOL, silly ole me; I thought that my sweet, little baby who was so obedient and loved to please would NEVER do that!!  Well, I'm here to tell ya, he definitely proved me wrong!!  The bonus is that he wants to please so much more than he wants to be ornery!

I'm gonna get some pics the next couple of days so you all can see how much he's grown.  Hard to believe that when I got him he was about the size of his head now!!  Good times, good times!

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From what I've read on this forum over the last several years is that occasionally our Dobermans feel the need to test us.. They seem to have a secret agenda all their own. As most of you know Sofia is one of the most laid back, gentlest of darlings, but just yesterday i picked her up from watching Mike play tennis.. she does NOT want to be away from Mike at all, .. she gladly jumped in the car as she thought he was coming too but when we got home she refused..absolutely refused to get out of the car. Being the paranoid and over protective Mama that I am..  I was afraid something was wrong, that maybe she pulled a muscle on the jump in.... Nope.. once I saw the defiance in her eyes.. I knew.. it was her against the other her.. ( me) It took me a moment or two before I realized all this was going on... so I just got my big girl training pants on and said..

" OUT!! NOW!!"

She did and all was well within moments

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Kate that's what I call "the mom voice" and Ben knows don't make me get the mom voice, now my husband he gets away with all sorts of stuff, what is it with the men??? no offense to the men here who do discipline the dogs :)) but I tell Ben once and if he doesn't do it I get the "HEY" and I use hand signals alot so I do the hand signal and if that doesn't work and he just is showing his fanny I then give "the look" and say in the mom voice "I AM NOT ASKING" and he immediately does what he was told two commands ago. Sometimes he just has to make sure that today I meant what I said yesterday.....but let him turn those rottie eyes to my husband and he gets to do whatever, cause my husband gets caught up in the fact that he was 7 when we adopted him and he probably had a rough life etc. etc. so he gets stuck in the past of what might have been while I am working on the premise of here's where we are and here's where we are going, Ben really prefers the latter......but bond wise I think he is bonded more with my husband......thank god we don't have a jumping issue like you guys have mentioned, we do have the excitment part, where Ben spins in circles trampling every little critter that might also be wanting immediate attention. We are working as was suggested with the collar grab and the stern firm command, well let's correct that Ben only misbehaves at the door with my husband so WE aren't working on it my husband is having to work on it. It's not progressing well right now.....