Jumping on the door

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We are having a little problem and I would like some suggestions for discipline/training to overcome it. Raleigh loves to go out in our back yard with our other dog. Until lately, she would come and sit by the back door and look in the window when she was ready to come in. Recently, she's begun jumping and lunging at the door and this is very annoying. Before I let her in I give her the sign for "sit" through the window and make her do that before opening the door. However the next time she goes out she bangs on the door again. Any ideas?

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My only suggestion would be consistency.. From reading this forum for well over a year, it seems that these Doberkids go through stages and test their independence.( not to mention your patience.) One day they are perfect angels.. the next, they grow horns and a forked nub!!

 Sofia can be as stubborn as a mule at times.. ( yes folks, it's true)

We have to maintain consistency at all times..

Obviously Raleigh knows what to do to be allowed in....SIT

If he realizes that's the only thing that works, he;'ll eventually get it..

( I would be sure to have double paned glass however... )

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I've been dealing with this for a while now too.  Steve throws himself at the door sometimes and barks to come back in.  I ignore him until he stops and then I rush over, make him sit, and stay before he is welcome back in.  SLOWLY he has started coming to the door and sitting and waiting for us but some days he's back at it.

It's annoying, for sure.  I don't have any other suggestions but am curious to see what other people say.  At least you know you're not the only one dealing with the behavior. 

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Diego sometimes does this too and other times he is very patient and well behaved. However when I let him in he knows to sit straight down and give his paws to be dried / wiped which is something.

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rocky will do it when he's super excited, like if he heard someone at the front door and wants in NOW.  Otherwise he will usually give a scratch or two with the paw and stand there waiting.  If that doesn't get it he'll add 1 bark to his next scratch...haha.  He will not be ignored! 

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We've made some progress with this behavior the last few days. We were yelling "No!" each time those big paws hit the glass and it seemed to have no effect. She can see us and wants in so badly.

To change her behavior, I had to change mine. I thought about how I make her sit in order to receive a treat. If she lunges for my hand I take the treat away. The only way she gets a treat is to sit down with all four paws on the floor. I move my hand very slowly to her mouth and will not give her the treat unless she stays down.

I applied this technique to the door banging behvior. She can see us through the glass so I began giving her the hand sign for "sit" and saying the word loud enough that she could hear me through the door. When her bottom hit the floor I moved toward the door. If she jumped again. I stepped back and gave the sit command again. As long as the had four on the floor I moved toward the door. If she ever lifted her front feet, I would back away. I could almost see the gears grinding in her brain, "I don't get to come in unless I sit..."

The reward is to come in out of the cold. The only way to acheive that reward is to sit until the door is opened. We've been working on this for seveal days and this morning I was rewarded when after her first potty break I heard her bark and saw her sitting nicely in front of the door. She figured out how to get my attention without banging the door with her paws! I know this will take constant reinforcement but I am proud of the progress we have made together in figuring out how to change this behavior.

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Well just when you think you've managed all the puppyhood problems, the Doberteen angst and the "come, sit, stays" you might be in for a surprise.

This morning Mike and I were sitting at the kitchen table making a list.. Sofia bounded up and put both front paws UP on the table.. she has never EVER jumped up on counters, tables or people.. she seemed rather pleased with herself.

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Ut oh Kate, you've been letting her read the forums again!  She saw that other dobermans are doing this and thought since she's the Queen Diva that maybe she ought to master this popular doberman stunt.  Heaven forbid that she's not up to snuff on all the latest dobie trends!

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wonderful progress and Rocky does that too...one bark to say HEY,  I'm out there ya know...

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Maybe try wait! We tried to get Laith to be like that with "sit" and he wasn't getting it. So we added "wait". That he must stand there (or lay down, not sit) until the door is open and I am already in or out the door. 

Just treat reward base. If he tries to touch the door, no treat and no coming inside. The door closes on him until he gets it. 

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Is your puppy like 4 or 5 months old?  If so, I would be outside with her at all times.  the best time to stop a behavior is before it happens.  If you're not out there, you're not correcting the behavior.  Plus, how would your dog let you know she wants to come back in?  If you are outside with the dog, when it's time to go in, you have full control over what happens next.  If you're inside, and the dog is outside, you have no control.  You need that control, or you're going to make it harder than it has to be.

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Kevin,

I don't know if you were talking to me or not in your last post but I will say that our method is working very well. Raleigh is almost 5 months old now. I go out with her often to be sure she concludes her business and is not tempted to break the house-training rules. She's getting that very well. However, when the weather is nice, she often gets some playtime in the backyard with our other dog and I am not out there with them. Occassionally she will still hit the door with her paws but more often she will sit there and look in. She's so pretty and her ears are so errect! Sometimes she will yip or give a soft bark to get our attention. If she doesn't sit, she has to wait. So now she has learned to come to the door and sit and she gets to come back in. I suppose I should say that the back door is very visible from our kitchen and family room so noticing her there is not a problem.

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Glad it is working! :) 

I don't have a yard, if you were asking me Kevin. I go everywhere with Laith. 

:)