Jumping and Tackling Feet

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This is probably a really easy fix.. and I am just somehow missing how best to communicate to Steve that I don't want him tackling my feet.  His favorite game since we got him has been to follow very closely and paw at our legs, get right between us, and generally try to trip us up.  From the very first time, I've stopped, turned, corrected and waited him out until my legs aren't the game they were.  I thought this would work and obviously it isn't as these antics persist - especially when he's very rowdy and I think frustrated the other two dogs won't wrestle him.

 

Also, he pesters the chihuahua incessantly - because the pomeranian will tolerate/correct him without much aggression they get on fine but the chihuahua wants nothing to do with his antics and snarls/growls any time the puppy comes near.  As he's 11 lbs and Steve is 22 lbs I can understand his fear of being tackled... how do you go about making Steve leave the chihuahua alone without punishing both of them?  I don't want Steve to be insecure about approaching a dog and I don't want Miles (chihuahua) to feel even more resentment with the new puppy by punishing him for his responses.  Help!!


Do any of you have any suggestions or things that have worked for you?  For his age, he is very smart!  He already comes on command, sits and jumps over a little pole I put up for him.  So I know he has the ability to listen - when he wants!

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You need to learn from the Pomeranian and correct the puppy when he goes after your feet or the Chihuahua. He's too young for physical correction of course, but a verbal correction along with a sharp touch will do.

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The "sharp touch" is a one or two finger poke, not to hurt but to get his attention. Another technique I have used is the two finger bop on the nose. By only using two fingers, you won't hurt him but it will get his attention as that is the way mama corrects - bopping them on the nose with a paw.

A few verbal tssk tssks will get his attention as well.

If you want to distract him, take a soda can and rinse it out and put 3-5 pennies in it. This is called a shake can and one in easy reach where when Steve is doing something you don't want him to do, simply reach over and shake the can and withdraw your hand while he is looking around to find the sound.

I agree that you should not discipline Miles for in effect defending himself.

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I just feel like all I do is yell, "No!" and correct him -- ahhhhh having a puppy is so much fun!!  I just wasn't sure if there was anything else I was missing.

 

On the note of getting the chihuahua and him to get along, its just that he seems to single him out to pester for no reason.  I don't know how much is too much to discipline him when he's bothering the chihuahua.  And the defense is very dramatic - I know its mostly show, but its still a little alarming.  He was raised with larger dogs and is very socialized, I've never seen this level of behavior from HIM before.

 

Anyway, sorrysorry to pester.  Just looking for advice or something other than the random articles I found on the internet..  It seems everyone has a theory and I just don't know what to use.

 

Thanks!

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Well, Alpha and I have given you some pointers. Instead of telling Steve "No" all the time, you need to find an alternative. Try using the tsst tsst instead. It is sort of a hiss and if used, Steve will know you are not pleased.

Also don't be too upset with Miles. They do have to establish their pecking order and Mile is simply reinforcing his position. Don't be surprised if Miles nips Steve. What you need to watch out for is don't let Steve hurt Miles. I don't think Miles can hurt Steve.

I had somwhat of a similar situation with Princess (22 month old red female) and my 15 year almost blind female Min. Schnauzer (Heidi). Princess will bug Heidi and Heidi snarls and lunges at Princess. Neither has hurt the other, and they have been in the same house for 20 months. It took about four months for Heidi to convince Princess that she wanted to be left alone.

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try and try again.. You'll find what works best for you, Steve and Miles.. Each of your dogs have their own personalities.. what works for one, might not be the solution for the other..

Have you ever watched Victoria Stillwell or The Dog Whisperer.? They have some really good ideas re: training. one is more of the disciplined minded.. the other is a eat reward procedure.

The best advice I ever got from this forum is 1.) Ask questions.. 2.) read the answers. 3) and most important, consistancy

Good luck.. and I love the idea of a soda can. Sofia loves new sounds..

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I thought this would be a good place to ask questions, even if they are dumb, because I just want to stay on the right track with Steve.  Training Miles was really easy -- mostly because he was REALLY small and all the other dogs I've trained in the past just didn't have as much go, go, go, go power as Steve.  I can't wait until we can walk him and teach him more things to give him a purpose.. but right now he is just a little terror.

 

Thanks for the advice -- I have reverted to "ah-ah!" for the verbalizing, I think its sort of the same as the tsst-tsst sound.  And we've decided to praise Miles when he tolerates the puppy near him and he seems to be doing better.  When Steve gets too rowdy near him we just distract him or leash him up for a little break.  No punishment involved just redirecting.

 

Happy Labor Day!

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"Ah Ah" has worked better for Sofia as well.. The 'Sssstttt' makes her think it's something to go investigate rather than be a correction.. It is still a distraction for her though. going to go look for a soda can..

Doberwords.. Gotta speak their language!

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jeshykai - I think you have the idea. Now if Miles and Steve will just cooperate. I know they will in time. I can't speak for Miles, but Steve will really want to please. It's in the Doberman gene. And yes at that age they can seem like monsters, but when they get the size and settle down, they are wonderful creatures.

Just wait until Steve weights 85 pounds or so and comes and sits on your foot. For the first few minutes it's nice, but after that either he or the foot have to be moved to save the foot.

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I am having the same problem w/ Cisco... Our feet are his favorite game.. The NO is not working. I am glad I came across this post. I will try the can and the AH AH or the Tsssk Tsssk! I feel like all I do is say no to the poor guy when we are playing.