I think I messed up! Update!!

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Well 1st off I sent Duncan to a trainer. He was there for 5 days. I spoke to the trainer through out the week. Told he was doing great. Went to pick him up. Oh my god!!! He lost so much weight. He looked so sad . So now I'm starting to build him back up. Giving him extra food. Sometimes he finishes it, others he does not. Could the weight loss be from stress? I'm thinking maybe the course was to intense for him. It was gentle training but maybe to much at once.

Does anyone know how long it will take for him to forgive me? He wiggles his body still when he sees me. There is just something different. Oh also he seems to be drinking a lot of water the 1st day back and having accidents all over the house. No blood. But could this be a UTI or his way of getting back at me? The 2nd day he wasn't drinking as much, but still having accidents more than before he went away.

I'm still going to continue with his training at home.

I feel soooo bad!! I thought this would be a good time to get more training on him then what I could do, but I'm really kicking myself for it now.

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I'm sorry this happened to Duncan    The problem I've always had with sending a dog off for training is that you are not there to supervise what happens to your dog.  To be honest, you don't KNOW what happened to him other than what you were told - which may or may not have been the truth.

Another thing is that training is for you as well as your pup.  It is to help teach YOU consistency in commands, expectations, etc.

As for the peeing in the house - at 6 months + Duncan is only now at an age where you can expect him to "get it" & be reasonably sure he would be able to hold it until you can get him outside.  My guess would be that his experience at the trainers has set him back.  Hopefully someone else will post here, & give you some pointers.


Good luck

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Sorry to hear about Duncan's bad experience;  my only advice would be to treat him exactly as you did before he went to the trainer, dogs are very intuitive and you are obviously feeling bad about this experience and he will probably pick this up from you and will mirror how you are feeling.   Hope you get your old Duncan back before too long, I am sure you will.   Good luck.

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So sorry to hear this!  I agree with what the others said (my unprofessional opinion).  If it were me, I would do as Scotty said and treat him exactly the same.  I'm sure he will go back to acting like himself with you.  Do you know how long and hard the trainer worked with him?  Maybe it was too much for him, as you said.    I'm sorry you guys are going through this. 

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Did the trainer do anything positive for Duncan's personality or training, though?  Did you gain some ground by having a trainer work with him at all?

Some dogs just dont eat much when they are away from home.  I left a dobe at a boarding kennel for a week while we went on vacation several years ago, and I called them every night to check on her.  All they said was that she was doing fine, but was a picky eater. She was never a picky eater at home.  When I picked her up at the end of the week, I know that she had lost about 12 pounds or more---she was thin.  I felt bad.  The next year, we took her with us on vacation, and she barely touched food the whole time we were gone....she didnt like to eat when she wasn't at home, I guess.

As far as 'forgiving you'---he did that the moment you went to get him.  Believe me, he was probably so happy to see you he didnt worry about the other stuff.

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Oh dear.. it's so hard not to humanize our 'kids'

Ziva's Dad is right.. Duncan certainly 'forgave' you.. as he lives in the "now" ( or so "they' say) and is probably picking up on your stress toward his experience.

BACK TO NORMAL.. should be your rule right now.. Don't try to coax him into eating.. he will if he's hungry ( well.. maybe an extra treat here and there wouldn't be a bad thing... but only when he's doing something GOOD)

Try try try to disregard his mopey-ness. the more attention you pay.. the worse it will get.. after all they DO like our attention and your response is music to his ears.. he's still just a baby and learning the ropes so to speak, so stay gentle yet firm and watch him blossom.

I'm curious as to what kind of training went on while he was there.

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Thanks to everyone for making me feel better.

Duncan is back to normal and the training is working. I can totally leave him of leash, he comes back as soon as I call him, then he lays down right next to me. We tried this with joggers going by and a rabbit. So far so good. He still pulls on the leash a little bit, but not as much.

He has also stopped peeing all over the house. If I'm on the computer or watching TV, he will stand and stare at me, with this look," It's time to go out" head tilt. I'll have to get a picture of it.

In his training the main words used, Come, sit, place, quit, off, lets go, leave it and then break to release him from what ever command he was in. I still place my hand up for stay, since he responds well to visual commands, but we are not to say the word. Their thought is if you put your dog in a command they're to stay in it until you tell them to break (take a break). Yes, we are still working on all of these commands. A collar with a clicker is attached, when you give a command you click. It's almost like the hand clicker method. All it does is make a click sound, no vibrations, no shock, no zap (very gentle). I still give treats but now I don't have to make sure I have them with me all the time.  I will keep you all posted on our progress.

 As for his weight I think he was all stressed out. He is eating fine, just still working on getting weight on. ON a Great note he did NOT have any diarrhea. Thank YOU God!!

AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL for your support and guidance. I honestly thought I would get some snippy remarks due to my feelings, but you are all truly GENTLE DOBERMAN Friends!!!

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See previous post!!

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I wouldn't worry too much about the weight loss but I would probably have asked about it.  My childhood dog refused to eat if we went away. He just wouldn't touch his food for whatever reason.  I think a lot of dogs are llike that.  they are in a new place, probably a little scared and stressed over it all and therefore just aren't as hungry too. 

 

Glad to hear the training is working though....