House training regression after adoption & move

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Does anyone have experience or suggestion with working out house training regression? We adopted our 4 month old girl from a shelter 5 days ago, we met the fosters there and they said she would go 4-5 days with no accidents. We picked her up and moved to our new house 1 day later - she is having many accidents per day. 

 

The fosters were in an SF apartment - I guess it's possible they thought pad-trained meant house trained, and she's actually used to going inside the house. This is proving very challenging as she seems to make a point of finding ways to go inside.

 

The most reliable time she will go is in the morning first thing after waking up. Wake up, out of crate, walk on leash out to the potty spot in the front yard, go, we praise her. Easy. After that first morning pee, all bets are off- if she wakes up from a nap during the day, I will take her out to the potty spot, and all she wants to do is try to eat grass and sticks and bite. It does not even look like she recognizes that is her pee spot. She wants to anywhere but there. Come back inside, she may have an accident 2 minutes later. 

 

Almost worst with going #2. Today I saw her sniffing and circling, grabbed the leash to take her outside and give the "go potty" instruction. Same thing, trying to eat grass and sticks, not interested in the potty spot. Come back inside, and she runs straight away behind some furniture and does her #2. 

 

Yes this is part vent, I am certainly frustrated and perplexed - any suggestions on how to make potty time less about sticks and more about potty, instead of her apparently holding it through potty time until she can go inside?

I know it is frustrating beyond belief when they act like they have no idea where and when they are supposed to potty.  I will tell you that most puppies are not reliable until they are about 6+ months old.  Your girl seems to truly have no idea - so you need to go back to square one with her. Do NOT let her have freedom in the house at all - she needs to be on a leash or in a small confined area. You have to learn her body language when she needs to go. I will tell you that until she starts to get it, I'd get her out every 30 minutes when she is awake.  Your saving grace is that she seems to be clean in her crate - so use that.  If you take her out and she does not go, put her back in her crate for a few minutes and then try again.  Teach her a potty word and use it consistently - my word is "go potty" but you can use whatever you want.  When she does go outside, make a big party out of it. Carry treats in a pocket and give her one immediately when she goes and tell her what a good girl she is.  It will take time, but the lightbulb will go on at some point.  She is still very much a baby, but I promise you that she will get it if you really do what you need to do.  Not giving her the opportunity to go in the house is really key - and that is up to you. 

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The fosters were in an SF apartment - I guess it's possible they thought pad-trained meant house trained, and she's actually used to going inside the house. This is proving very challenging as she seems to make a point of finding ways to go inside.

 

I have a friend in Manilla that taught their dog to go potty in the walk in shower. Thought it was nasty at first then thought about it some more. They live on the 30th something floor, they have 'brownouts' frequently and there is no power. Who wants to walk down (then back up) 30 something flights of stairs to take fido potty in a brownout? (not me)

If 'SF' means second floor - Those people are lazy as hell and need to be flogged. It is one thing to teach a dog where they can have 'accidents' inside the home without fear of getting fussed at but it is another when you teach them it is cool to piss anywhere and everywhere inside the home always and you never try to teach them they need to go OUTSIDE...

With that said...

Since I brought my current girls home I have always tolerated accidents in the room that their crates are in without much fuss. An accident anywhere else inside the house and I am going nuts. They learned really fast. :)

I slept late as heck this morning and when I did finally drag myself out of bed found this in Patiences crate:

Not a problem. I ignored the mess, took them on their normal morning potty break and then once back inside cleaned the crate up without a single word being said. Both of my girls know that if for whatever reason they just can't hold it - If they have their 'accident' in the designated area that it will be cleaned up and no dog will get fussed at for it. Drop an accident outside of that area and all hell will break loose! :)

Not going to say it is 'easy' to teach a dog it is cool to piss in their crate - Because it is not. But, It can be done. For me, Accidents on those plastic liners are easy as hell to clean up. Also, since it is IN their crates, it is not like I set them up a designated piss place somewhere else inside the home. Have seen people with small dogs set up pee pads in a special area before and almost without fail they train their dogs to use that spot ALWAYS.

I do not personally want my girls pissing in the home every single time they have to go. Having the crates be their designated accident area makes them 'think about it first' vs if it was an area set up someplace else.

Want to also add that even IF you know for sure there are no medical issues causing the problems - Not all dogs are the same and some will not 'want' to hold it as long as others even if they can. In the past I was always the sort that had a zero tolerance policy toward accidents inside the home and for the most part every one of those Dobermans knew it and would hold it however long they needed to. Went on a day trip for business one time that had me gone for 16 something hours. Came back to find that neither of the girls had went potty at all. Guy that I left in charge to take them out said they refused to do anything every time he tried to take them out and he said he took them out several times. They definitely went when I got back and took them myself! Bothered me pretty bad that they held it that long and it was my fault. I had never even tried or considered teaching them a 'safe place to have accidents inside'. 

 

Be patient with your girl, decide what works best for YOU (what you want her to learn is acceptable) and help her learn it. She will learn your rules in time... :)

 

 

 

Note about pairs / multi-dog homes:

I looked up one time when I had the last pair and saw one of them cop a squat in her sisters crate leaving a big dump behind as she exited with what I swear was a smile on her face. I laughed at the time thinking it was 'funny' that she would take a dump in her sisters crate no problem but no way she would do that in HER crate! 

In hindsight that was the wrong message for me to send. Guess why?

Zero tolerance for any sort of crate sharing here now. Don't care if it is because there is a toy in one crate that they want or a treat or anything. Each girl has their own crate and I better not catch the wrong dog in a crate that does not belong to her lest it will be a problem that I solve instantly. I treat crate ownership the same way that I do food bowls. 'If it is not yours - Your face better not be near it'.

 

 

 

 

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Teach her a potty word and use it consistently - my word is "go potty" but you can use whatever you want.  When she does go outside, make a big party out of it. Carry treats in a pocket and give her one immediately when she goes and tell her what a good girl she is.

All of that would look really bad if you were outside telling your dog to do it in the neighbors yard, and they were out there watching, and had their camera phone getting it on video... 

Why I use the words 'hurry up' and do not do the party / treat thing.  LOL! :)

 

Had a Breeder / Vet in the past talk to me about getting a Doberman to potty on command. The guy used to show his dogs and was explaining how it 'just does not look good' when they shit in the ring. 'Even if you clean it up right away - It does not look good. You want your dog empty before you go in there...'.