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We got Dixie the last week of October. She is crate training well, but she will not tell us when she has to go outside. We can take her out and she will go potty. Come back in and withing 20 minutes she has pooed in the house. HELP!!!

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Since dogs don't talk and often don't let us know when they need to go, it's up to us to carefully note when they last went and to try to predict when they're going to need to go and to directly supervise them closely until they're housetrained.  If she's pooping in the house, someone wasn't watching her.  This is your problem, not hers.  Puppies often poop 3 or 4 times a day.  You have to give them a good, long time/chance to have a poop when they're out because they often get distracted by other things.  If she hasn't pooped recently, you've got to make sure to take her out again frequently.  I don't know where you are - if it's snowy/cold, you've really got to up the frequency because puppy will probably avoid going in the cold when they are out until they absolutely have to. 

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We do let her out for a while. Sometimes 20 minutes. She will then come in and poop. And then when the kids are playing with her, she will come out of their room, walk into the living room and poop. She won't go to the door or whine. I just don't know what to do. We let her out often.

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if 20 minutes is not enough, stay outside longer.  Your dog will not just understand not to go in the house, it's something that needs to be taught.  At this age, I consider it MY fault if the dog goes in the house, not the dog's fault.

 

Also, when you say you let her out, are you out there with her?  And you said she won't go to the door to tell you she has to go, did you train her to go to the door to tell you she has to go?

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We have been trying for 6 weeks to train her to go to the door. We say, Dixie, do you want to go outside? and we will go over to the door and then she will go out. But she won't just go over to the door and whine or bark. Yes, we do go outside with her.

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I have had Cisco just as long you have had dixie - he is almost 15 weeks old- He is just now starting to understand outside... My problem is I say go outside and he goes to the door... When we are out side I say go potty... well sometimes if i say go potty instead of outside  he will just pee at the door - My fault! 

I will take him out and he will pee but wont poo (distractions, cold, not ready) and I know he needs to. I make sure I watch him inside and keep him in the room closest to the door and just wait, when he has to poo he gets almost manic and runs around   like crazy trying to find a place to go... So I say outside outside outside as I am opening door and he makes a beeline to his poo place outside.

He seems to have to pee every half hour so we take him out accordingly.... if he is is really playing w/ the kids or us and running like crazy- we stop play every 10-15 minutes and take him out... We still have accidents and they are always our fault- we are not watching and paying attention to his actions....

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Thank you for this info. We will keep trying too.

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Watch for the signs (sniffing around, walking in circles, etc) and then get her outside.  If you watch her close and catch her just as she is getting ready that is good too.  It's always better to go out too much than not enough. 

From my experience and from reading the experiences of others it seems that 4 1/2 months (20-21 weeks) seems to be the age where they start to "get it".  I don't think Dixie's quite that old yet.  You will get her housetrained, just keep working at it and be patient.  Once she's housetrained you'll soon forget all the struggles and be so proud to have a reliable dog.

We brought Freyja on December 13, 2008.  I'll never bring a puppy home in the winter again.  It's no fun standing in a foot of snow at three in the morning.  But we got through it somehow. 

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Here's a thought.. try TELLING Dixie.. " Outside.. Go Potty" instead of asking if she wants to go out.

The tone of your voice (as in command) vs. a question.. makes a difference.

I asked Sofia twenty times last night if:

'she wanted to go out' ?  It was raining and all she would do is look at me as if I was on something stronger than tea. ( it had been 10 hrs)

Finally I pushed her off the sofa and told her "OUT" She grudgingly went out looking for all the world like the tiny rain drops would burn holes in her hide. She gave me the stink eye, huddled as close to the house as she could get..  "GO POTTY" and guess what??? After a minute and more stink eye. she did.

It's now almost 7:30 A.M. here in rainy Baja.. It's been 12 hrs and I just looked at the Diva clutching the ends of the sofa and glaring out the window.She gets this look on her face that tells me it's going to be another battle of the wills

Wish  me luck everyone.. I'm goin' in!! ( or out)

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It seems to take forever with puppies! Best advice I got, and it was from this site... Keep being patient and one day it will just "click" in your pups head. It did... 2 months later. 

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If you don't, you can also start to associate the actual poop with a command, not just going outside.  If you tell your dog "Do you want to go out" it doesn't necesarily mean he's relating going outside with doing his business... You have to be a little more specific than that.  If he's not really "going" outside, then he is likely not understanding that "let's go out" means "let's go do our business".  What I have always done from the beginning is the absolute second I see a squat, I would mark it with a "yes".  Just like a clicker, "yes" means a treat is on it's way.  After a few times of getting good rewards outside, and no rewards inside, your pup will start to understand that going outside is good, and going inside does nothing.  Also, make sure you don't take your pup in right away, stay outside for play time when she finally does get used to going outside.  You don't want her to associate pooping with the end of playtime.

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Very true KevinK. I am eating my words from just a few hours ago. Laith peed in the middle of the bedroom floor during play tonight. He didn't sniff, or walk around. I got his tug-of-war bear after probably 5 hard minutes of play and when I said "I got it" he peed right there/then. CRAZY PUP!

He is 5 months and I don't know if he gets it yet. I need to stay strong on the reward system.

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jillian97, you're expecting a lot from such a young pup. She's not old enough to totally control that end yet, nor is she developed enough to communicate such a complex thing. Listen to what glengate said - when the puppy is out, someone needs to be watching. Puppies rarely pee or poo without showing subtle but obvious signs. When they don't show any signs, it's usually when they're very excited and lose what little control they have.

Remember that she's just a baby, and will be for a good while longer.

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Snoops is now 7 months and has pretty much got it. Mind you a few nights ago I was upstairs and the little brat went and did one in the lounge upstairs. I didnt see it but knew it was him so told him off arrrrgh and snobbed him for a few mins thinking as they say I didnt see it and catch him so probably pointless to tell him off however later on  that night he needed to go out and started barking at the door to go out. That is a first for him so he knew darn well he shouldnt have done it inside. He is older now though but  when he was a puppy I watched him like a hawk. I have a really good rug that I was determined not to let him pee on hence I had my eyes on him all the time and literally picked him up and took him outside all the time- lots and lots and lots- like at least every 15-30mins . It drove me mad and was lots of hard work and thats not to say we didnt slip and miss some - ugh pee on mat but I looked it as my fault for not getting him out at the right time. Just persist and make sure you physcially take him out all the time , its a pain in the butt but eventually they will get it. If I took Snoops out and he wasnt ready or wouldnt do one then we would go back in but I would get him back out within 5-10 if I knew he should be ready. It was so much work but there is hope it will all come together.

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They are all different,  I had a really easy time with Rocky, almost too easy. He's only ever peed in the house twice and it was our fault for not getting him out, he did it only 2-3 times in his crate as a pup but that's because 8 hours is too long for a 12 week old pup...again our fault but by 14 weeks we never had an accident again

 

One of us stood out side with him and told him 'go potty' until he did every time though.  and as a pup, he would pee and want to come in but I knew his schedule and when he usually pooped so I'd keep saying 'go potty' and in a couple minutes he'd poop, then he'd get all sorts of 'good boy's' and petting and inside we would go. 

 

it was at about 16-20 weeks that he finally understood and would go to the door and ask to be let out instead of us always prompting it.