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I've had my puppies for about 7 weeks now, and it seems like we are getting no where with potty training. We have a routine: I wake up in the morning and let them out to pee. They come in and eat breakfast, then go back out and poop. They play until I leave for work. My dad lets the out about midday and they both pee and poop. As soon as I get home, they go out to pee and poop then eat and play. I will take them out 2 or 3 more times before I go to bed. They don't have many accidents in the house, but the thing is, they never let me know they need to go out. It is always me leading the way. How do I train them to go to the door and let me know they need out? Phoenix, my female, pooped in the house today and two days ago in the middle of play time. It's really frustrating that they show no signs. She was on the couch and just hopped down and pooped! I would really like any and all advice on training them to go to the door or bark or something, anything!

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Just with patience and consistency/ Your pups are still young and might not even realize they have to go til.. they've......gone..

That's one of the reasons we do the 'pee pee' dance outside when we do avoid an accident and make it a big whopin' deal.. they start to associate what it's all about..

When we rescued Bella at two months, she had never been in a house.. she was a little street urchin left to her own devises to survive.. we took her outside to go potty every half hour.. (night and day) for about a week.. then stretched it to an hour.. etc. etc.. She'll be two in December.. *gasp.. and to date we've not had one single accident..

Use your voice..

"Let's go potty." or what ever command you want to use.. and as I said.. BIG HUGE Whopin' deal when they do it..even a treat once in a while til the get it..  I promise you .. it'll work..

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I agree- it takes a lot of patience.  Zeus was the hardest dog I've ever had to potty train.  He was 8 weeks old when I got him and it is hard to remember that it's not until about 14 weeks old that they really start to have real control and have any advance notice! And then one day, he went and pawed at the door.  It was like a miracle.  There were a couple more accidents after that and then it it was like something clicked and that was it. I also would take him out the minute I saw his nose hit the ground! 

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lol it's totally normal honestly keeping taking them out and take them out often ! The no warning thing is normal. It literally just clicks one day hahaha patient is a virtue but I know it's hard. Keep an eye on them and never punish after the act or if you find a oopsie they won't understand you can only correct if you catch them in the act. Give a firm no and outside. Ares just got it one day and went over and tapped the door so I praised him and let him out. Don't worry it will eventually be fine :) never treat when they potty because some dogs get to excited over a treat and won't fully relieve themselves :) keepup the good work ! Oh best way to clean urine is with vinegar it takes the entire scent out remember their noses are much better then ours. 

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Thanks! Ares you are right. They use the same spot in our house every time. We have new flooring and I'm freaked to use anything other than the floor cleaner they supplied, but I don't think it cleans as well. I get frustrated with them not going to the door mainly because if I leave them in the garage to dry their feet off while I get their food ready, they know to go to the door and whine or lean up on the door knob to get it. I'm struggling to understand why they know how to get IN but not OUT. They also go to the door and wait to get it when they are done outside. 
 

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Oh Ares.. I laughed so hard at your 'no treat' suggestion..

We of course, being new at potty training; ( La Diva came to us cropped, docked and completely trained) So with Miss Bella we started from square one.. ( visulize book in hand..finding page 36.. . How to Potty Train Your Pup whilst ushering her to the door.). but I digress.. we thought treats were the answer to everything til we watched the little menace.. go potty.. snap up the turkey cookie.. then go squat with her head over her shoulder looking to see if we were indeed ready to treat again..no piddle..just a poised and perfect little squat.

Now... the fact that Phoenix and Loki go toward the same spot on your sparkling new floor.. tells me they're starting to associate the smell with the need.. hmmmm.. watch them.. Watch them like a hawk.. the minute they start to sniff at the 'spot'... swoop them up and head them outside with a: " Go Potty."

 

 

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Lol glad to give you a laugh but it's true hahaha I did that with my small dog and regretted it hahahahha ! Vinegar will take the scent out they are definitely getting confused with scent. Mother dogs will clean the den for all bathroom mistakes so the pups get it it's just the role of mom to clean up after the lil boogers. Natures miracle is great to but expensive. Don't get frustrated or upset they are just accidents from babies that can't hold their liquid. They need to beet out often more then a few times a day.i let Ares out constantly he had a sip of water he was let out. With the male when he's about 6 months watch him cuz marking isn't fun in the house.... I would take both out and have them go in one spot so they go in all the time.

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Lol glad to give you a laugh but it's true hahaha I did that with my small dog and regretted it hahahahha ! Vinegar will take the scent out they are definitely getting confused with scent. Mother dogs will clean the den for all bathroom mistakes so the pups get it it's just the role of mom to clean up after the lil boogers. Natures miracle is great to but expensive. Don't get frustrated or upset they are just accidents from babies that can't hold their liquid. They need to beet out often more then a few times a day.i let Ares out constantly he had a sip of water he was let out. With the male when he's about 6 months watch him cuz marking isn't fun in the house.... I would take both out and have them go in one spot so they go in all the time.

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I would recommend cleaning with Natures Miracle.  I use vinegar for everything else and used it when Zeus was a puppy at first but it doesn't fully neturalize so there are still linger traces for them to discover and be enticed by to go again. Natures Miracle has both carpet and hard floor cleaners and are your best bet. 

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Yes I use vinegar for urine because it takes the scent out but for number twos I use natures miracle 

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Thanks for all the comments/suggestions. I don't treat when they go potty just because I forget to take the treats with me, and if I don't get them out fast enough there is a pee trail going to the door lol. I will try being more patient and giving them time. I do admit they have gotten better, and I take them blame when they do have accidents. I just read other people mentioning that their pups were pawing at the door around the age that Phoenix and Loki are at.

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Don't worry it's fine they are young they will get just takes time every pup is different and it's harder with two ! 

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EVERYTHING is harder with two..

And better...

and funner..

and busy-er and louder..

and.. and.. yep.. wetter...

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Ha! Thanks Lady Kate...you hit the nail on the head with that one. They truly are like children. They have FOUR of the exact same chew bone, but the best one is whichever the other has. They have a yard full of leaves and sticks, but the best one is whichever the other has. Don't even get me started on the howling...(it's a new 'trick' they have discovered when they don't like being kenneled or in their play pen)

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Hah!  I always say that the family that howls together stays together :-)  Thankfully mine don't howl when crated though, only when they hear sirens or the train sometimes.  Actually, Zeus' howling is one thing that I have loved to watch how its evolved as he's growing.  He howls like a big boy now :-) 

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I had the same issue until Penny turned 11 weeks, she started going to the door and letting out a little bark, I let her out, she pees, Im happy, shes happy.