Crate training advice please?

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Hello.. I have a 10 1/2 week old pup, and my wife and I got a rather large kennel he can grow into.. Even though we take him outside when he wakes up he still randomly pees in his kennel.. Just last night we put in a divider to give him just enough room to sleep.. Hopefully this helps?? I was wondering if I replace my back patio door with a door with a built in doggie door and align his kennel up with it at night so he can freely go outside if he would still effectivly learn to not potty inside??

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How long are you leaving him in there?  At that age, I would expect him to only hold it a few hours, like 3 hours max maybe

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At max maybe 3 hours.. Usually he will cry and then we take him out.. It's a Great Dane size kennal so last night I shortend it by two thirds to not give him as much free Rome .. If I put his kennal up against the doggy door.. Will he still learn? My wife and I have a newborn baby and when I'm at work she gets all the responsability so I'm trying to think of other options.. By no means am I trying to cut corners.. 

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My pups breeder told me to take our pup out every twenty minutes when he was not in his crate.

He had schedule for the times he was in his crate.  Mostly human meal time and a nap in the early afternoons.

 

It worked.

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Wow ! Every 20 min even right after he goes potty? That seems a little tedeuos ..

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Just wanted to say welcome and congratulations on the puppy and the newborn. Ya'll definately have your hands FULL!! I have a now 10 mo old baby with a 7 mo old dobe and sometimes i want to rip out my hair, but I wouldnt change anything:) Just remember BOTH babies need attention!!

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In the crate, no more than an hour.  Then potty.  Unless it is bedtime, then right before bed and then right when you wake up.

Outside the crate, every 20-30 minutes, then potty.  I know it sounds tedious, but if you don't let him fail he will catch on quicker.  I used my kitchen timer to remind me.  

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It IS a bit tedious lol.  But they go ALOT!  If he's going in the crate, you may need to start setting an alarm and taking him out.  Once he gets in the habit of going inside, it becomes really hard to break it.  So the question becomes do you want to do the hard work now, and have a dog that never goes in the house, or do you want to wait, and deal with the problem later, and have a dog that often goes in the house.  Hint:  It's better to wake up for a few weeks at night and never have that problem lol

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Thank you! This is Blu and studly

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Tiny dog tiny bladder, yep every 20-30 minutes that's the rule for puppies it does get better but you have to be willing to put the time in to have a great dog

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It's a matter of muscle control.  Just as puppies are a bit wobbly and tend to trip or fall a lot... they don't have very good muscle control yet.  So, too, they do not have the muscle control necessary to 'hold it' for very long.  It's pretty much visible, if you know what you're looking for, when a puppy is capable of 'fully' housebreaking, when the tediousness can slowly end...  when they become sure-footed and coordinated, all of their muscles fully under their control.  At that point, it becomes a matter of knowing what to do, instead of lacking the ability to do it.

Of course, fully grown and we're still battling to get our yorkie-pom fully housebroken.  -.-  There was an outbreak of parvo in our area before she was done with her puppy shots, so the vet recommended using puppy pads and not taking her outside at all for a month and a half.  So it's slow going to get her to stop.  Ever letting them think it's at all okay to go inside will make it WAY harder to succeed.  She's getting much better, finally...  but I'm taking her out every hour or two, just as if she was a puppy all over again.  For months now.  *sigh*  At least it won't be much of a change when we get our Koko in a couple of weeks!

 

 

ETA: I don't think attaching the crate to the back door is a good idea unless you intend to live like that permanently.  Much better he learn what is expected right from the start. 

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That does make perfect sense .. He is very clumsy and off balance right now.. We took him out more frequent last night had he had no accidents. Yay!!

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*cheer!*  Just keep with it.  It's tedious now, but it will pay off.  You just have to stick with it.  Even though I am the one who has always desperately wanted a dobe, I had to 'threaten' to not get Koko after all because my spouse tried to object to having to take him out in the morning before work.  Uhm hello, if I'm going to be setting an alarm to get up and let him out in the middle of the night, you can darn well get up ten minutes earlier to let him out in the morning.  -.- (With our sleep schedules, this would mean he'd not be expected to hold it more than three hours at any point while only requiring me to get up once.)

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you named you son Studly? :) beautiful, x2....

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Lol!!! My sons name is Tristan "Blu" White... My dogs name is Studly .. 

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I had that problem with Les when I first got him and it got so old cleaning his kennel because he would do it almost every other day. So I adjusted fire a little bit and stopped letting him dring after 9:00pm(10:00 is his bed time),  then I would take him out at 10 then I was up about ever 21/2 hrs to take him out....I lost alot of sleep but it fixrd the problem, So I adjusted a little more and started going to bed at 10 with him haha. hope it helps

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Yes, it's hard and tedious it's just as having a baby and he is our baby :) just like you would prepare for a newborn coming home - same goes for your pup. Second time around we planned and prepared and it worked!!!!!!! He is 8 weeks now, had him for a week, stopped peeing in the house in last couple days and never did  in the kennel!!! Lasts up to 6-7 hours in a kennel :) I stayed up till late taking him out, my husband got up early, we actually took some days off when we brought him home! Routine! He hated kennel first day - threw a blanket over and worked like a miracle :) then watch him - we could recognize the signs, he would just run to the gates in the doorway and as soon as we see it - out we go :) It works, he stopped biting within a week, still wants to but I can see how he try's no to, established from a first day what's allowed and what's not and stick to it, it sucks  to keep on going on, let me tell you, but they are most wonderful dogs and learn at a striking speed :) it's my first post, so I guess I will have to learn to be shorter :) just stick with it, it's hard but it works and to see him looking at you with those most understanding eyes like "ah, ok I think I got this, now what?" It's most rewarding thing a canine world :)