is territorial marking outside bad?

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I recently rescued a 2 year old doberman and have introduced him to my best friend, who has 2 boxers and has trained many dogs. When I brought him over into his backyard, he hiked his leg and urinated on the fence and on the ground. My friend told me to correct him and not allow him to mark, as that is an expression of dominance. I have not heard that before and wanted to see if anyone else subscribes to that theory. I live in apartment complex where he encounters numerous other dogs and places they've marked. He is completely housetrained and has not shown any inclination to urinate inside. Thanks

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Firstly, welcome to the group, and God bless you for choosing to Rescue.  There are far too many good dobes in shelters and rescue places that belong with a forever family.  Thank you.

I'm no expert on dog pee, but sometimes I think some people put far too much emphasis on "dominant" issues that are nothing more than just normal things that dogs do.  Territorial marking can become a bad habit, no argument from me on that, and probably wouldnt hurt to discourage it, but it's a natural thing that dogs do.  It's sort of like leaving a post-it note for the next dog that comes by to sniff things.  LOL

Maybe you can discourage him and correct him from 'marking' on your friend's fence post if it bothers him.

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I feel very fortunate to have found such a wonderful dog. He is my first "big" dog and I couldn't ask for anything more. What a smart and loving dog, and breed for that matter. I have always subscribed to methods that Cesar Millan teaches and I wasn't sure about how outside marking fits into that. For me, from a common sense perspective, a dog will naturally pee where another dog has pee'd before and will leave "marks" outside. I'm not sure if a dog is able to conceptualize a whole neighborhood as his territory, whereas a dog marking indoors could believe the house is his. I think its entirely appropriate to correct him when he pees on things he shouldn't, like an outdoor grill, plants and trees that someone values, etc.

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I allow Laith to mark in the dog park or any type of "off leash playtime" outside. He doesn't mark inside at places/homes we go. But if we are walking on leash and he wants to stop to mark a tree etc... I keep walking. He much rather would like to be walking beside me than to be left behind marking. That is dominant behavior! 

I kind of made up the theory if he wants to spend his time marking the dog park off leash, then so be it. It is his free time. Every male dog does it that I have encountered. But on my time, he knows better...

Hope this helps. :)

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Welcome to the forum and I'd like to echo Z's Dad with a great big 'bless you for rescuing'

Not a single thing to add re: marking..


Sofia is a DoberDiva and will only squat when no one is looking.

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Oh Sofia! Laith goes #2 with his leg up.... 

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Oh Sofia! Laith goes #2 with his leg up.... 

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Dear Laith~~~

I'm pretending I didn't hear that

S.

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oh Laith what an interesting quirk...I just spit milk everywhere lol

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Thanks for all the comments everybody. On a typical 20 minute walk, I will give Midas 2-3 opportunities to go to the bathroom. During those times, he might walk up to a tree or bush and hike his leg. Other than that, I don't allow him to wander on his walk. He stays on a short leash at my side during the walk.

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I'd just like to say welcome!  Reesie still keeps all four on the floor.  I don't know when he'll start that marking, raising the leg thing.

Sophia, what a lovely picture, as usual!

Laith - maybe you could teach Reesie to raise his leg with #1?? :-)

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haaha! I hear they learn the habit from other "kids on the playground". :p

@Shiba - yes, he is something else...