Submissive peeing? pt2

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I'm pretty sure what she is doing is submissive peeing as she is back to peeing when I say things like "Gotta go potty?!"  And when I'm about to put the lead on her.  She was doing GREAT on not submissively peeing...until I went to work.  She wasn't left alone, she was played with and had attention given to her, and she was fed and taken outside by her daddy.  But, now that mom's home, she's back to submissively peeing.  I ignore her when she does it and take her straight outside and walk around for 10-15 minutes; sometimes she goes again and sometimes she doesn't.  How can I get her to not submissively pee for me?  I can't take time off, nor should I have to.  Is this a crate-train issue?

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Don't take this the wrong way, but maybe you're scaring your dog?  If you expect a dog to be potty trained in 2 days, and not have accidents, I'm assuming you're expecting it to learn other things ridiculously fast as well, and maybe it's scared to be around you because she's confused, and you seem to be upset.  You didn't mention whether or not she peed with daddy, but since you didn't, i'm going to assume she didn't.  Maybe your dog has to pee, you're not taking it out enough, and since it kinda knows it shouldn't pee in the house (but not really, just that you get mad when it does) but can't control it and lets loose so it knows it's going to get in trouble?  Has anything happened that woudl make her scared of being on  lead?

How often does she go out?  And for how long?  How long is she crated?  How much time do you spend with her daily?  After she drinks, take her out IMMEDIATELY and keep her out there till she goes, when she goes, give plenty of positive feedback (whatever works for her).  Dakota loves attention and pets, and when she squats under the tree, and I say "yes" she looks at me with what I take to be a big smile.  Once she's done, she runs up for her lovin'.  When she goes somewhere else, a simple no, and no attention.

You said in your last post you're getting frustrated... If you're frustrated, the pup can sense that, and she will get more tense... a tense pup that can't control itself that looks up and sees an angry mommy will pee...  Again, please don't take this the wrong way, (not meant to be negative at all, but these things don't come out well when reading online) but instead of thinking it's a problem with the dog, maybe it's the way you're handling the situation.  

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I discussed it with my breeder and she explained to me that when I got home from work I caused too much excitement when I first walked in the door.  So, she peed as a "greet".  It is frustrating to me because of the whole work thing and I felt for awhile that I was the only one working with her.  And I have to admit that it took a little toll on me for awhile.  We're all still adjusting to everything. I'm pretty sure it's not that she's scared of me because she's always wanting to be by me and to play with me.  And when I take her out, we stay out anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes (or until she goes).  And when she's done she gets high praise to let her know I'm happy about it.

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Is she crated when you get home?

If she is, when you first let her out pick her up immediately and carry her outside. Give her some loving, but not over the top. When she has peed where you want, then make A BIG DEAL of it. I mean a really big deal. Even to jumping up and down like a silly ninny and telling her what a good girl she is. You want her to really understand how pleased momma is.

With Princess I had good success with this. Now I had the advantage that I am home most of the day (retired now) and was able to take her out every two hours. But when she was really young, I always picked her up and carried her out. While she is in your arms with one hand holding her legs up she will not pee on you.

Remember at this tender age, she simply doesn't have the muscle control to not pee when she gets the urge, but then neither does a three month old baby. What you are doing at this early stage is getting her accustomed to going outside.

I was once given a dog that was instantly house trained. She had lived outside his first two years, and was accustomed to going outside, so consequently every time she had to go, she would wimper and we would go out where she was accustomed to going.

It is not unusual for a pup to get so excited when momma (or daddy) comes home that they lose muscle control because they get distracted. That is one reason when Princess first started out of the crate, I immediately picked her up. You do want to work on this because if you don't, it won't change and instead of a leaky puppy you will have a leaky adult dog.