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not sure if this is the right area to put this one but i need some advice...after much thought and emotional upset we decided to sell major....i made sure that i asked alot of questions to potential owners and put him with what i thought was the best match for him....he's in the military, had dobermans growing up and had done research on the breed....he called me the first night not knowing how to get major to be quiet when it was time to go to bed....i explained to him that as with any dog you bring into your home it would take some adjustment on both sides and that after a few days, with some patience, major would come around....here's my question....can any of you offer advice for things he can do to make major more comfortable in his new home.....he said major got aggressive with him last nite and i explained to him that was not aggression but a very stressed dog dealing with a new enviroment and he was trying to be the dominant one but that i felt chris should build trust with him first....he knows what majors normal temperment is b/c i made him come to our house and observe major in his enviroment and be around him before he took him....i've never seen anything like this from him (except the bone issue sometime back) but then again he's mine and he knows what is expected of him....i know many of you have taken in rescues and rehomed before so please anything i can pass along to him would be great...thanks in advance....

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When most people re-home, they go through a shelter...  Personally, I would never re-home a dog myself.  If he doesn't know how to handle the most basics of dog behavior, I would recommend telling him to get into some classes so he can learn about what he is doing.  If I gave someone a dog, and they called on the first day to ask how to make them quiet, I would probably tell them I'd come show them, and leave with the dog lol.  But in all seriousness, I would tell him to get into some classes, and keep learning.

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thanks....i did tell him earlier he needed to do that....he has moved major to a friends house ( he carried on so much last nite that his roommate said he had to go)...he's apparently doing great at the 2nd place....his friends wife said she's walked him and seem no signs of anything bad in major....i told him to go to some classes and get online and dig and research everything he can....he said he would before giving up....one of the problems is he's intimidated by major and he knows it....

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Oh boy...

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For future reference, please, don't ever rehome yourself.  

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I'm assuming that he put the dog in a crate and he wouldn't settle down?  Did you crate train him? If not, of course he's gonna give it hell the first night. Giving a dog to someone with a roommate at best is dicey.  It sounds to me like the "wife" of the second person has a handle on it.

Wow, I'm feeling really bad for this poor dog. So If I understand this correctly you sold your dog to a man in the military that had Dobermans growing up, this person had the dog one night was intimidated by the dog couldn't help him settle down and his roommate said the dog had to go do to whining? So they gave it to someone else for the night or to keep for good? I sure hope the dog is going to be ok. Sounds like not the best placement.

Can you take the dog back if it doesn't work out? How old is Major?

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happydance-yes i crate trained him so i wasnt sure what was wrong except he was in a new location.....

rdn-you are correct....he said major is alot bigger than the ones he had growing up....then major looked him in the eye and growled at him...poor guy said for a bit he was frightened....according to chris, major really barked and scratched ....chris said he even took him out and was going to sleep beside him but he didnt want to calm down....that's why i was hoping i could get some good advice to pass along to him

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he is 10 months old

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Hi, new here, but wondering if you (rmk) are female or there's females in the house and there's no female in the house he went to?

Also, 10 mos is when they get very 'cheeky' isn't it?

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i am female and i have an 11 yr old daughter.....i did wonder the same thing about that being the problem with chris's place....he actually bought him for a christmas gift for his fiance....she's still in california and won't be here til they get married in a few months....now he's worried about major will respond to her...i told him from the beginning to not have his feelings hurt but i expected major to be "closer" to his wife....or at least thats the way it is here :)...i also told him yesterday that he will probably bond with the family he's with now and when chris goes to move him again he may have the same problem again

 

rnd-sorry i got off quickly and didnt finish answering...,..if i had to bring him back i could but it would be with the intentions of still finding him a new home....and yes this does appear to be a bad placement but i thought at the time i made a good choice....i didnt hear from him last nite and i will check on him later today to see how it went

if anyone in the shreveport,la area is interested please let me know...thx

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I hope these problems get resolved and Major is able to have a safe and happy home.  If this guy doesn't work out, I would find a reputable doberman rescue and go from there.  They try really hard to place the dogs with people whose experience and lifestyles match what the dog needs.  I guess you didn't go that route b/c you wanted to recoup the money you've spent on him, which is somewhat understandable, but maybe it's better for Major at this point if you surrender him to a rescue.  This isn't his fault. 

Boomer is a rescue, and the first day we brought him home, he was definitely stressed out.  He didn't whine or make noise, but he did curl his lip at me a few times.  He was fine with my husband, so I was really upset at first.  I was convinced he would never love me.  (yeah, I feel stupid now - I totally overreacted.)  But we were able to call the head of the rescue group to get advice.  She's been placing dobermans for years, so she is familiar with all kinds of situations.  We've had Boomer for about 3 and a half months now. He is still in the process of completely opening up to us, I think.  He's much more affectionate with us now than he was when we first brought him home.  He snuggles and sleeps on our laps now which is a relatively new behavior.  You can't expect the dog to just be perfect when he's been uprooted, espeically with someone who seems to be ambivilent about him at best.

Good luck.

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Rmk~is there a possibility of keeping Major? If it doesn't work for Chris, perhaps someone here might be able to help you thru a problem. There are lots of experienced dobe owners with a variety of scenarios. My apologies if I missed the reason for rehoming.

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hello bbroyles....no you didnt miss the reason-i didnt put it :)....there are no problems with major....please no one bash me for this b/c its been a hard decision and while some may not agree i've done what i thought was best.....after getting major and enjoying him so much we decided to get another one (sasha).....as time has gone on they have become a hand full (as most of you know and probably want to call me stupid at this point).....i had to admit i wasnt superwoman and juggle everything (working full time-2 school aged kids-church and community activities AND raise 2 very energetic dogs)--side note--i have no help with any of this--so i decided to try and find sasha a home b/c i really thought she'd be easier to rehome and my heart was really with major ( i love sasha also but he's my big goof) ...i have had no luck with finding someone for her and after hearing the daily "you need to get rid of them" i reluctently put him up and he went pretty quickly....as i stated before i asked as many questions as i could-made chris come here so i could "get a feel" for him and watch major with him.....while all of this may seem wrong to some i honestly have their best interest at heart....that's why i didnt just give them away....i felt if someone was willing to pay good money for them and was familiar with the breed, then they would be more likely to take care of them and give them a good home.....i have told the family that we would never have another dog b/c they weren't going to put me (or the dog) through this again

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 I'm interested as to why you chose to rehome him.  I'm sure this wasn't an easy decision for you, but this whole scenario is disconcerting to us as you can imagine.  Major must be totally confused and scared.  It will take him some time to even begin to trust.  Did you send any of his familiar things with him, like his bed or toys?  I'm not trying to be negative as you came on and asked for help but this is a bad situation.  Unless "the wife" you mentioned could take him, I implore you to contact a rescue.  Please keep us posted.

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You posted at the same time I did.

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i know hd....i didnt say much about why b/c i didnt want to look like a complete incompetent .....and yes i sent his special blankie that he sleeps with....i explained to chris yesterday that he was adding stress to major by taking him from one location to another and that he needed to leave him in one place and be with him as much as possible and that he needed to have boundaries that before he tried to be the dominant one he needed to build trust with major....i also told him that was a fine line b/c he couldn't allow major to become dominant either....that's what i was hoping to get help with something that could relieve majors stress, help him to build trust in chris and help chris become more confident.....im hoping the wife of the friend can help him b/c she all but told chris (according to him) that he was crazy b/c major was wonderful

I would offer to buy the dog back and try and contact a rescue as far as rehoming him. This home sounds like a really bad placement and it is only going to get worse. I feel really bad for the dog being shuffled from home to home and being totally stressed. Is he neutered? The original home that you found for him does not sound competent to have a Doberman. Is there anyway you can make it work at your house as far as training and such.

The only thing that is going to relieve Majors stress at this point is find a competent and qualified home for him. There would be no way I would leave one of my dogs in a situation like that.

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Rmd, I'm sorry this has become difficult. They do need lots of attention. I have a couple of questions? Do you have a fenced yard? Who is telling you to get rid of them? Is that really what you want to hear? What are their ages?

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Hi rmk... sorry to read about all of these issues.  I know you meant well with trying to place Major in a proper home but sometimes we, as humans, don't have enough training on what the best fit for a dog is with a new family.  The man you placed him with could have easily lied about his experience - clearly, if he is frightened of a 10 month old puppy, this is a big problem.  Major will read that and will start really upping his aggression in response.  I don't care how much the new owner may want to keep Major, go ahead and call him and say that you were not honest with your situation and the shuffling of Major was not what you agreed upon.  Give him his money back.  Contact a shelter and get Major in with a group of people who can properly evaluate him, train him for some of his issues, and place him with a home who has shown 100% commitment to a dog.

Many, many MANY times people will compulsively look at Craigslist for a dog.  They will find a situation like yours, pay the cheap price, take the dog home and realize "this is harder than I thought" and that dog if not in weeks, months or a year.. will end up in a shelter anyway.

Regardless of the issues you had in making the decision to rehome, you came here asking for advice.  Everyone is saying to get the dog back because all the issues you have shared this new owner has with Major are clearly not fixable.  He was not ready for a dog.


It isn't easy having multiple dogs with a busy lifestyle, much less one, so I know you have learned a hard lesson - your kids have too.  I know you may not want to bring him back, even for a short time, because it may be harder on your kids but you are showing them how important it is to follow through with the responsibility of pet ownership by doing whats right for Major. 


If you don't have a Doberman rescue in the area, contact your local SPCA.

Best of luck.

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I have a rescue as well, his name is Rex and I willhave him 1 year on 12-23. He'll be two years old, and was a mess when I first brought him home! Stress-urinating, hiding, runnig away, the whole nine yards! It takes time for the dog to adjust to their new environment. He still has some issues with noises around him, but otherwise has adjusted well.

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I agree with Des...  can you get him back, and talk to a rescue?  The rescue does all the screenings, followups, etc., and will be better equipped to find a GREAT home.

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I agree with the others, major deserves to be deboned by a professional...get him back and contact a rescue. Being forced to leave his family is hard enough without being shuffled from home to home.

I am not going to judge your or give my opinion about your situation because that's not what this thread is Bout and quite frankly it's a little too late for that. However I will take the opportunity to discuss the importance of the things we preach and no ones evers wants to believe us. This is a prime example of what can happen when two young dogs are placed together in a home. Young dogs need almost constant attention and it is nearly impossible to give two young dogs living in the same house the appropriate amount of attention they deserve. Therefore they become a burden instead of an enjoyable member of the family. Let this be a warning.

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Is the fellow who adopted him local to you?  If so, couldn't he be Major's 'dog walker'?

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no he is not local....he lives in LA im in AR.....was a good idea though....as far as the warning yes people should take that advice and like some of the other topics on here that some dont want to hear, know that it is true...i didnt join this forum until after having them both (this is the only forum i am part of or ever been part of)...ive had more than one dog before (from puppies) but as stated through out here on many threads they are defintely a different breed....meaning they require alot attention and work....so for potential owners or second dobe owners please take a moment and read the other threads about this and know that it is a challenge...my office is at home and im a very active person and as determined as i am not to say i cant do something this was no easy task....

 

and control freak thank you for not "slamming me against the wall" .... while it may have not been a wise thing to do it wasnt done with the attitude of "i can do it no matter what ppl may say"....and this has been very hard for me....

did he fly the dog out or drive to get him? I'm not sure of the abbreviations you gave how far you are talking about in distance. I would try like hell to get the dog back and go about the placement in a different manner. Have you mentioned this to him? Yes it may be a little work for you but it will be worth it for the dog. I think you owe it to your dog to make sure that he is in a good placement. I certainly hope the dog was neutered!  

Did you ever contact the breeder of your dog to see if they could help rehome. In my contracts if a dog I ever place needs rehoming than I will take care of it and the dog is to come back to me, owners are never given the rights to rehome and your placement is the prime example of why not. This dogs home is up in the air right now, not going well, the easiest thing for the new owner to is go dump the dog at the local shelter which is what happens in most cases. This as I'm sure you know is not a good place and adoptions coming from the shelter are not likely. It is more like a death sentence! The other thing you have to consider is the person can just sell him to any joe blow on the street and who knows what kind of situation he will then be in. You owe it to your dog to find him the right home not just anyone who has the cash to buy him and do awful things to him. Go read some of the stories on the rescue lists and see where these dogs come from some are very sad.

I don't know if it is money that is holding you from taking the dog back or what but please consider all possibilities that you can to get him out of the place he is at. Best of luck and I hope a door opens to make this all easier.

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Albertabluesky, great suggestion! That would be a good transition or exposure for a new Dobie owner.
Rmk, if you could get Chris to bring Major back, would you reconsider ways to get thru the next year? Is there a rescue in the area? Sometimes, from what I've read, they can assist with transportation. You might talk to a group and see if they have other ideas.
You came for advice and didn't really get what you were looking for. I hope you will understand that it's because we see problems other than your original question. I hope that you can find a better placement. Don't give up:)

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he drove to get him....he's about 2 1/2 hours from me....he is in louisiana, im in arkansas.....as far as not taking him back, i tried to contact him yesterday but had no luck....my plans were to discuss the issue with him.....and the fears of what could've happened is why i asked alot of questions, spent alot of time communicating with ppl and making what i thought was the best choice....i was hoping to get some advice to help chris with handling the situation and knowing that the attitude being displayed by major the first day was due to the stress of being moved....as stated on other threads here, when a dog is rehomed the new owner must be patient and understanding to work the dog through this....and while i really did STRESS this to chris before he left here it was quiet different when a 100+lb doberman is growling at you (he weighs almost as much as chris)...

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i wont give up....call me naive but i really thought i could get ideas and help chris with the process....but as im sure will be said, im not an expert and whatever possessed me to think i could do that....thats what i was hoping to get from here with ppl that DO have experience....and from what im seeing the main thing is getting him to a place that really does know what they are doing....i will have to do some reseach b/c i've never heard of any doberman rescue close to here-not saying there isnt one, ive just never heard of it....

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I just want to wish you the very best of luck. It's got to be agonizing for you and believe me, we all feel for you and pray for a good outcome

Kate and Sofia

I give you credit for trying to find a solution to help him keep him and searching for ways to make it work but it just sounds as if the buyer is not a good candidate to own a Doberman from the things you said. Now if you were right in the same area and you did continual home checks and could keep up with him help him with training and so forth than that may be another story. Unfortunately you are to far away to really help him adjust and train the oblivious new owner.

 The other problem is that he sounds as if he is a very young military person just starting out and doesn't even have a place of his own yet hence the roommate insisting that the dog was out the first night. I FULLY support military families my daughter is one of them but I would not sell a Doberman into a young military family. They move to much some of the bases that they live in do not even accept Dobermans and it is hard to find rentals that accept other dogs let alone a Doberman. Breed discrimination yes but very much a reality! When placing a dog you have to keep the entire picture in mind. Military life is not easy on families let alone a pet that is considered an easy throw away when a family is burdened. If you look through any paper you will see people just like yourself that have to get rid of their pet due to moving, no time, just had children so on and so on the list is endless the bottom line is to most people the dog is the first to go when they face any problems.

Rescues are very full in most cases and lack homes to take the dogs, so it is not a magical cure all. So I don't want to lead you to think that they will have a wonderful home just waiting for your dog if you get him back, but they may have one and be able to help transportation from one area to another. They may also have other suggestions for you. I would research and reach out to one.  Honestly 2.5 hours is nothing to drive to get him back! There are other things that you can also do to ensure a good placement and help your dog to be more adoptable and find the right home. The first step though is to try and get him back or find the right support for this person in the area he is at. It is a very scary situation all the way around.

Is the dog neutered?????

Here is a link hope it goes through from the DPCA with wonderful sugestions and tips that is one place to start. http://www.dpcarescue.com/

Also keep in mind that you might not have a rescue in your backyard or possibly state for that matter but they do network together, so contact a few. Please keep it to breed specific rescues their is a big difference. You want one that knows the Doberman inside and out not one that thinks they do. I had a Doberman here that we ended up finding a home a few states away through a separate resuce.