Refuses to get back on leash

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Hi all

Not been on here for a while + have had plenty of stories on Diego since last time, as I can see everyone else has with their dobies too!

Anyway, I'm sure this is normal adolescence stuff but Diego has been quite disobedient over the last week (he's 14 months) in terms of coming back to me when I need to get him back on the leash. He seems to think it's a game... well I'm pretty sure he knows I'm not playing but he treats it as if I am. The last 2 times I've had him out, it has taken me 15-20 minutes to finally get him back? Is this fairly common and will he grow out of it soon?

He's extremely well behaved in most other areas and he much better with his previous pulling (we now use a halti)

Any advice or words of wisdom would be appreciated!

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whoops, sorry for posting twice!

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Hi i am new to this site but i have the same problem with my 5 year old ruby,when it is time to go home she runs the other way,i use to go after her to try and catch her,but i have now learned that if i tell her she is having a treat she will come to me,im sure diego is like ruby and loves his treats, when i have food she will do anything for me so i use that now to bring her back to the lead, hope this is some good to you.

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What exactly do you do when your pup doesn't come back? 

You can start doing some recall work with a long lead.  A 14 week old pup usually won't have any kind of reliable recall yet, so it's certainly nothing unusual.  If you chase him, or go after him, it becomes a game, so don't chase him.  If he won't come back when called, keep him on a long lead, or try to lure him back. 

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Hi guys, unfortunately, Ruby11, treats don't work. He comes so close and then bolts again... which surprises me as he'll usually do anything for a treat!

 

And KevinK, I think you misread the age, he's 14 months + 95% of the time up until recently he's been really well behaved in terms of coming back on his lead, that's why I've assumed he's going through a rebellious stage. He could always differentiate between me 'play chasing' him and wanting him to get back on the lead. This morning my partner had to come to where we were so that he would run to greet her and we could get him back...

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Hi Bonez,

Diego has simply learned that the leash means end to the fun. You might try making a game out of it. You can start at home and call him back, put him on the lead, walk him around, do a couple commands, then let him off again to play. Keep doing that throughout his exercise sessions. Then when it's actually time time go, he won't suspect, and it will be part of the game and still fun.

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thats why I like the long line method a 15 foot line they never know where the end of the rope is. Or if they are ever off it. It reminds me of my horse same way. If she ever saw my bridal she ran or if my mother said to her "run Doce shes gonna ride you!" . LOL i never chased her though. I had my treat and sat down and finally she gave in and came to me. I then gave a treat.Chasing a dog is just more fun for them. they think its a game then. they dont want to be confined cause its more fun to run around. Make it fun to come to you maybe? Also reminds me of someone who told me that there dog got out of yard and went next door. "in town" and she went over to the neighbors got her dog proceed to whip the dog with a belt all way back home. "which totally disgusted me but couldnt do anything about it" and then the dog got out again and wouldnt come back to her. " I thought why would it? Last time it got out you beat the poor thing all way home. and didnt even reward it when it got home. All it relates to coming to you or going home is a belting. They finally I think gave the dog away. I hope she got a more intelligent and loving home. Some people just dont need animals. http://www.dogproblems.com/public/579.cfm

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When I take Ziva off leash, she has full run of the area I turn her loose in, but when I want her to come back to get leashed up, I call her to me and make a 'snapping' sound with the leash hook, just flipping the metal parts with my thumb.  This is how I trained her from the very beginning, and when she came back I gave her a treat, or a toy, and just let her sit there for a minute, treat again, then hook onto her leash, so that she didnt always associate coming back to me and the sound of the leash snap with instantly losing her 'freedom' so to speak. 

She went through a period of rebellion not too long ago where she would come back on HER time, not when I called, so we spent a few weeks with a personal trainer using a long leash. Started out with a 16 ft training leash and worked up to a 30 ft rope with a swivel snap attached to the end of it.  If she didnt turn to come to me within 1 - 2 seconds of calling her, she got a jerk on the rope, was made to return to me, and got no treat.  If she came back without having to be corrected, she got lots of petting, praise, and an occasional treat (not every time, though, because I dont want her to think she gets a food reward for doing everything...sometimes I dont have a food reward handy)

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The 30 ft leash works well for recall. I NEVER chase. That is a game. I would just start on a leash and work recall until he gets it again. Then you can work with it off. 

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Thanks for all of your comments guys.

 

AlphaAdmin - I think you are definitely right about Diego knowing it is the end of playtime. I'd already tried the trick of getting him back a few times first to praise him or give him a treat to let him go again, but he wasn't having any of it ha. It's funny though as when I take his lead off I always tell him to stay and walk away about 10 metres and he just sits there dying to bolt off - but never does until I tell him to... but unfortunately then it's on his terms. I've also found that it is only some areas I take him to where he is disobedient in this way. Leaving the beach and some areas he's not overly familiar with, he comes straight back. In these other places I have since got hold of him for a stroke or to give him a treat just so he knows it is not necessarily home time, as I let him go right back to him play. 

 

I have not tried the longer leads yet but I will definitely look to give them a try if the situation doesn't improve soon!