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Jill is 7 months old and very much a puppy. We also have a 2 year old, 100 lb german shepherd and a 1 year old anatolian/great pyrenese mix.  Of course, Jill wants to play all the time, but sometimes the other girls just don't want to play. My german shepherd (Gemma) will firmly let her know she's done playing, but Jill just won't stop. The problem being, Jill can get hurt but acts like it's nothing and just keep poking the bear. I swear this dog has no pain sensors lol. I'm truly at a loss. I know she's supposed to learn how to play from other dogs, but what do you do if she won't get the point through her thick skull even if she's getting hurt? She's not gotten severely hurt but I'm afraid she'll get around another dog and it will hurt her whem she won't stop pestering it. Any suggestions?

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First - you are in charge not the other dogs.....if you don't approve of the play method then stop it.....don't let the other dogs figure out the rules, yes it is true that dogs learn manners from their peers but when it comes to playing rough you are in charge this not a disagreement over who drinks water first or a toy this is when to stop and how to play, you are their instructor, even for the older gals you need to step up so they feel that they are still secure in their home, you have always been there for them you still need to be there for them and stop this youngster from annoying them. When play gets to beyond play or at the first sound that the others have had enough leash her to you, walk her, play with her yourself, crate her something other than leaving her to annoying them. I have never allowed my dogs to play with each other unless I start it.....due to that they totally avoid each other and they never act as if they know the other one is there.....and when I start it I end it they don't.....and still if one of them growls at the other one for something that is acceptable I will call them on it immediately and it keeps the peace, no one feels they have to worry about what the other one will do cause Mom is there and she will make sure THAT other dog stays out of their face, so everyone is calm instead of on alert for an infraction..... instead I am on the alert for an infraction..... I do this with the cats too and they are sometimes better trained than the dogs on some things, hahahaa I can point and tell the cat offender go to your room and they will zoom down the hall to the bedroom and go in the closet hahahaha, the dogs don't mess with the cats, the cats don't mess with dogs, I spare no one, the dogs know that if a cat gets in their face the second I see stress on the dogs face I call the cat away and the dog learns that they do not have to react cause I am monitoring it all the time...... be your own policeman and monitor their behavior and enforce your rules......this comes in handy when a strange dog is around too cause you can call your dog away and your dog will know that's not a dog to play with, so teach her now that when you say stop and come away she has to, it might save her life later.....

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Tal, as usual, brilliant response. I whole-heartedly agree with you. I just wanted to share a little about Axel 's play time with two of my sons dogs. One is a boxer/rott mix (yodels to Ben), and the other is a big lab. Now Axel is 10 months old and he loves to play and play and play. The lab is great with him. They wear each other out and life is good. Now the boxer/rott, different story. She is the boss of the trio and she lets them know it. In fact when they decide they both want the same toy, and that happens quite regularly, she gets in the middle and takes it. Its hilarious. Good luck and pay attention to the play and by all means, listen to Tal.  She is very wise when it comes to behavior that you require from your dogs.

 

Tess

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Ah Tess that really made me laugh.

Sounds like a momma breaking up a fight between the children too funny.

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thank you Tess I didn't know I had bouts of brillance hahahaaha I will remind the dogs of that when they are being rotten and refusing to go out in the rain etc. :)) I find myself telling the dogs what I expect and what I want without actually thinking about a "method" or "is this right wording" etc. I just tell them what I want and now not quite two years into having Ben he knows "get up" "backup" "go to bed" "lay down" (which means on your bed) "down" "sit" "stay" "hey!" which means whatever you are doing stop it cause sometimes I hear things without seeing it I don't know what command so it's a "hey" till I get there then he gets a new command and he is waiting; "wait" "stop" "patrol" "car" "bye bye" "ride" "leash" "collar" "wagon" "daddy" and a few others.....I did not sit down and figure out how to train him for these we just have conversations daily and I point and use my body to move him at the same time I speak etc. he picks it up fast.

However, we do have an issue with me waving my hand like a person would do to wave at someone to come over, and lord help us if I wave my hand AND say the word HI - good lord Ben goes nuts, he thinks he has to terrify those people, now why on earth he associates that with a bad thing I will never know but to test the theory I just sat on the sofa and waved my hand at the TV and Ben jumped up from his bed on the run growling and barking......then I just said the word HI and he did the same thing combine them and best not to be in his way......he will knock you down getting to the door to bark.....I can see it now a bad person approaching and I scream HI and do the friendly wave in order to turn Ben into killer dog, hahahahaha