My doby is getting bullied

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I have a 2yr old red doberman. She's very friendly, protective, and part of the family. She's getting picked on when I take her for a walk around the trailer park. We have to walk by a house with two little dogs and they always come running out to the road barking. They usually get very close and make her pull away on the leash, and I yell at them to go away. I was wasn't worried about it until today when one of the dogs bit her back leg. They scare her, so it seems like it makes them more confident to attack her. How could I help her be more confident/dominant?

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Awww// What a sweet sweet girl..

What a shame. What would happen if you knocked on the owner's door and requested that he keeps the littles enclosed in the yard.. in the house.?

Are there leash laws where you live? Maybe report to the manager..

Think about bringing a squirt bottle with you .. or even try the Cesar Milan "STTT STTT" towards them as you see them approach.... stand tall.. point your finger and say..

NO..

Go away...

Ish..

Don't Mess WIth Texas..

anything loud and authoritive... Bad behavior is easier to stop BEFORE it happens..

:Last but not least.. can you walk in another direction?? Do you HAVE to pass by this place??

Good luck and let us know how it goes..

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Hi mdavi

Its great that under that amount of provacation that she's not reacting in an agressive way toward these little dogs. I understand though, too, that you dont want your dog to have to pay the price for other peoples ignorance.

When I started walking Storm she didn't have a lot of confidence around other dogs. She wasn't quite sure what she should do around them. Sniff them, get out of their way, bark at them etc so many possibilities and with a human hanging off the back of her, attatched to a leash, she was a bit confused.

I wound up trying something that worked for us. When another dog approached, I would shorten the leash so that Storm was by my left side with her shoulder at my hip (the heel position). I made sure to keep the other dog or person on my right side creating a buffer between us. At first she pulled to get to the other person or dog but over time she began to find it reassuring that while in that position, she was always safe out of the way. I didn't tell her to heel, I just folded the leash in half calmly and put her on my left side and without making a big deal of it, just calmly kept walking on.

However when dogs are off leash, especially two, it's a hard situation to overcome. I wouldn't yell at the other dogs, because of the risk that your dog might think your yelling at her, and it sounds like she's doing a good job of keeping it together under a frustrating situation. I can only suggest keeping her close to you as mentioned above and just briskly walk past the little yappers until your beyond what they perceive as their territory. Dont stop, turn around, pay any heed to them, just keep reassuring your dog and continue on your way.

Some questions I would ask are: Can you avoid that part of the park? Can you talk to the owner of the dogs to get them do something about their dogs? If not can you complain to who ever runs the park? It seems to me that your dog is doing exactly the right thing, so why should you have to change anything?

Good luck.

mdavi,

Your first step is to talk with the owner. They may not know their dogs are doing this. Benifit of the dought.

Second step would be animal control. Texas has a leash law and the person in control (or lack there of) of the animal is responsible by law for ANY damage those animals cause.

Step three is to carry a sturdy stick and swing for the cheep seats.

Gunny

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I absolutely agree with Gunny, talk with the owners first, report them if they just don't care and yes yes yes carry a stick, you have full right to protect your dog and yourself from any dogs attacking. (:

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There is a citronella spray product, similar to pepper spray.  It's made to defend against aggressive dogs.  Non lethal.  Won't injure.  I don't remember the name, but a quick google search should provide plenty of options for you.  A "super soaker" water gun may even be effective.

I would not recommend clubbing the dogs with a stick.  It may feel satisfying at the time, but you know things will escalate.  If you were in danger, then swing away.  But it doesn't sound like that's the case.

Just a guess: are the two little dogs Jack Russell Terriers?

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Michael no one is meaning to club the dogs but a stick to sway them off is very affective I know as a kid i had to deliver papers to houses out a country road and a stick can also help keep the dogs at a distance and if they come charging I would not have felt safe relying on a spray unless you are carrying bear spray that shoots far enough.

The owners of these dogs need to be spoken with because I myself would have them charged if myself or my dog was bit.  They should not be left to roam freely to be attacking anyone in the first place, they sound like irresponsible dog owners.

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Kato, I agree.

I know you weren't suggesting using the stick for beatings.  Just wanted to mention that so everyone is clear.  Hope I didn't come across as "preachy".

A talk with the owners is the first step.

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Oh no problem I realize text doesn't really convey our tone or how we may intend for things to come across, I just wanted to be sure no one took it that I meant to beat the dogs, a peaceful approach is always my first intention of course lol.

It just really ticks me off though when dog owners put others in a situation to have to worry about defending themselves or their own dogs against unsuperpervized dogs with a potential to attack.

No one wants to be attacked or put in a predicament to harm another animal in defence and of course the possibility that these dogs attacking the wrong person could lead to the euthanization of the irresponsible dog owners dogs.

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I would also keep in mind that your reaction will help direct her reaction, so if you are loud and defensive she will learn that other dogs are to not be trusted which could work against you in the future......I like the idea of walking by them ignoring them but since one has bitten her already you need to talk to the people and tell them their dog bit your dog....and another incident will require a call to animal control or whomever you need.....and of course if you can walk another direction and avoid them altogether that would be great......but your reaction needs to be very careful what reaction do you want your dog to mimic??? that's what you have to do......

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I absolutely agree Talisin, that's where it would probably be best to just go aproach the owners while leaving your dog at home.  Also in the future, most people's phones now a days have video record, maybe in the future video their dogs if they are once again loose and you have chosen to walk that path if you can not avoid it, this way you have evidence that your dog was not the instigator as unfortunately large breed owners usually get the blame.

Regardless, if these people are allowing their dogs to be unleashed and not fenced in they must be reported it is our responsibility to report neglectful dog owners otherwise this too makes you just as much to blame imo.

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Recording on the phone is a great idea, but you need to be super present to be able to manage the situation. Plus if your trying to fend off these dogs, your arent going to get the recording you need. If you're behind a camera, you are another world away.

If you could have second party videoing the event, I think that would be your best bet. I wouldn't turn it into a major production but if your going to do it, you may as well do it right.

Hopefully it wont come to that, but if it does...

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I'm sorry to say, a neighbor approached me about my dog (long ago).

It turned out that my kids would get home from school and let him outside, free.

He would wander into the neighbor's yard and pee.

I apologized, and thanked the neighbor for talking with me about it.  I told the kids about it and it never happened again.  They just didn't know.

 

My point is that a talk with the owner may be more pleasant than you'd expect.  They may be very receptive.