Biting and hanging on !

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Snoopy is now 4 1/2 months and most times the sweetest thing. Hes pretty good with most basic commands and goes to obedience so we are getting there . But hes still biting at times mostly when hes very excited or at the end of the day when hes tiring. He does seem to be getting better- ever so slightly - well maybe a tiny tiny bit better but what he has now figured out is if he gets hold of a sleeve or something similar he can hang on and growl and carry on - great game - NOT - I try not to excite him when I know hes in one of those moods and of course most times this happens there is nothing in site or on me to bribe him to get off my arm-sleeve whatever is in his mouth. My question is no 1 how to get him off quickly without it becoming a game, so far I have had to drag him with me somewhere to get something to bribe him- not ideal as he thinks its great- second how do I teach him this is not allowed . Here is the little beast- looks like butter wouldnt melt in his mouth. It doesnt most of the time except for the alligator thing we have happening.


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    A little trick I learned from watching Cesar Milan(Dog Whisperer)is to simulate biting with your hand.It simulates what the mother or dominant dog would do in a pack.Form your fingers and thumb together like a mouth and give him a bite in the neck, shoulder area.It doesn't have to be hard,it's just to redirect his attention and let him know this behaviour is unacceptable.It works pretty well with my dogs.

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A squirt bottole of water works wonders to immediately stop bad behaviour for Rocky.  He outgrew the incessant biting but when he gets worked up and wants to play he's hard to calm down.  A firm NO doesn't always stop the spazzing out but a squick squirt of water sure does...:)

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Thanks very much for the help this site is amazing ,for that, Im going to try both . Funny as he has  been on his best behaviour today, I think he knows Im on a stop biting mission. However we havent hit happy hour yet. I will have to stock up on water bottles and place them around the house in case the other wont work with him. I had him out today walking through town and met a couple that have a 5 month old puppy, they kept commenting on how calm and placid he was. It was so nice to hear as you can get caught up with the naughty moments and not realise that they may not be that naughty at all.

Fingers and toes crossed I can win the battle.

 

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Thanks very much for the help this site is amazing ,for that, Im going to try both . Funny as he has  been on his best behaviour today, I think he knows Im on a stop biting mission. However we havent hit happy hour yet. I will have to stock up on water bottles and place them around the house in case the other wont work with him. I had him out today walking through town and met a couple that have a 5 month old puppy, they kept commenting on how calm and placid he was. It was so nice to hear as you can get caught up with the naughty moments and not realise that they may not be that naughty at all.

Fingers and toes crossed I can win the battle.

 

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you'll win but maybe just not as fast as you hoped..haha 

 

They are almost as stubborn as we are but not quite.....

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Im nearly winning, Quite funny just when I think we have a breakthrough back we go again. I think though hes getting the message- when he feels like it that is ! Slowly very slowly we are starting to lose the bite thing, mind you hes trying to get clever with it now and sneak one in when Im not paying attention. They are more cunning and harder work than kids.

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There are a LOT of smart breeds of dogs, and a lot of smart individual dogs, but I have always thought that dobermans were unique in their reasoning power.  Sometimes they just KNOW what your next move is going to be. LOL  I used the 'pinch' method on Ziva along with a loud "NO BITE" when she was around 2 - 3 months old and going through the teething stages and she wanted to play and bite.  It does take time, but be consistant and persistant, and it should pay off well for you.

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I have gone through similar issues with Sasha,our now 18 week old Dobie.It was horrible at 10 - 16 weeks.She is starting to understand I am not her play mate with the help of some of you on this forum.This last week, I kept a small waist apron on.Treats in one pocket,can of coins on the other.If she was getting jumpy and bitting ,I would shake the can.It snaps her out of what she is doing  and will refocus her.Then have her sit.It is definitely a lot of work.We know it is so important for a well behaved dog and our own sanity.

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Finally he has started to realise as well. Hes now 5 1/2 months and he will now mouthe us but most of the time very gently, he can still get over excited if I try to run with him and he will jump up and bite so at this stage we just walk everywhere or I might jog for a little bit but I keep it very low key. Its so nice though to be over the worst of the biting so to anyone else with little crocodiles that are driving you nuts there is light at the end of the tunnel. Mind you we lost the biting but now we discovered if we want to rest whilst walking we just lie down and play dead. Hes such a dork he even carries on like that at obedience. Every other dog is excited to be there Snoopy just lies in a heap rolling over watching whats going on from ground level. The trainers are quite bemused by him that he is so quiet for his age. The only way to get him focused is go for a run - then he bites abit and perks up- but 5 mins later hes flopping around on the ground again. Once hes up and focused hes very good he just seems to like chilling out .

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Loved the pictures of Snoopy and how fast he seems to be growing..Great looking DoberDude.

hey.. why not give this a try.. Because his gums are probably itchy from teeth trying to grow in, why not put a teething ring in the freezer and give it to him to gnaw ( kinda like our Mom's did with us as babies..)or even a icy cold wash rag.. anything to let him get that itch scratched.. Babies will teeth.. just can't let it be on us..

There are wonderful things called KONGS that folks on this forum have tried..Seems to work for some.. not for others. ( like me.. Sofia just doesn't chew.. it's drooly and unseemly and she is such a Diva!!)

Good luck and keep trying different things and let us know what works for you/

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My rocky probably thought his name was No bite or No for the first 5 months of his little life.  haha   He's now 9 months and doesn't care about kongs at all.  He does love rib bones and pig ears but other than that, he's not much for fetch or chewing anything he can't destroy.

 

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Thanks everyone so much for the help along the way. Gosh when they are at that awful biting stage I think we feel it will never end ,the help and advice I have had here have been fantastic. Snoopy is cute isnt he Lady Kate, funny you call him a doberdude as thats perfect for him. hes abit weird at the moment with this calmness he seems to have come over him. He really does like just lying around, he will have silly moments but lately they are only for a few minutes then hes back down chilling out upside down. If it keeps up hes off to the vet as its seems abit unusual for a pup his age.When we got him the breeder said he was the quietest and sookiest out of the puppies so Im hoping its just his personality and not something wrong with him. He eats well and seems ok but just likes lying around. Even out walking now down he goes - flops on the ground to watch the world go by. At obedience training hes on the ground more than up being excited like the other dogs. Mind you its getting hot here so that probably doesnt help either. He really is the laughing stock down there with the trainers and other dog owners. He is like a big lazy clown.

My challange with him isnt pulling anymore its getting him up walking . Food wont work anymore so Im going to take a toy next time and see if that will work.If I drop the lead and walk off he comes pretty quick but as you can imagine I dont like doing that when we are by a road etc. We shall see how we go. 

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Oh good idea with the teether as well. Thanks. He has a kong now and loves it to bits- that gets him excited when he sees that. He can do it sometimes -a rush of energy - just not much. Funny Lori as my last Doberman Rusty couldnt care less about a Kong either. He wouldnt even pick the thing up but Snoops loves it.

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Oh good idea with the teether as well. Thanks. He has a kong now and loves it to bits- that gets him excited when he sees that. He can do it sometimes -a rush of energy - just not much. Funny Lori as my last Doberman Rusty couldnt care less about a Kong either. He wouldnt even pick the thing up but Snoops loves it.