5 months and being naughty ...

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Hi Mina is 5 mnths old and is so full of beans , sometimes I think ime not doing enough or don't know what else to do,? I walk her for half an hour in the morn sometimes a bit more then dog walker comes in at 12 pm walks her in a pack for an hour , ime home at 4 pm and I play with her and walk her for 15 mins approx or frisby in garden or ball or fetch etc ... My husband works from home often so she is not often left alone for long periods of time. Toys galore she has and is not allowed on furniture or bed . Sometimes I can do everything possible and she will bark at me and bare her teeth , not in complete viciousness !! Alas I can't really let her and need to give her a good telling off .... I was doing scent work around the house with her and she wasn't interested in the toy so decided to grab my hair with her teeth ! I know it's puppies and she s a dear baby , but I feel . like I am maybe not doing enough ??? I am a first time doberman owner but have had dogs in the past . Mina is big and strong and getting bigger ... My husband is away a few days a week usually . Mina is always better when he is home . Classes start again in January where ile do either clicker or recall , ile do both but at diff times . Mina is better than she was , a few months ago she was v naughty barking at me even when I turned my back to make a cup of tea . Because she is teething I probably give her far too many treats to appease her , nothing unhealthy .... Raw carrots and go find chews for her and show her them . I hope this phase will pass . Any help appreciated . Paola . 

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Dobe puppies need alot of exercise, more than just a few short walks and playing frisbee.  They do their best with daily training, several short sessions EVERY day.  They also need to have their brain used, mental stiumlation is very, very important.

Hi thanks I know this but I am told not to excersise her any more tan I am because of her joints growing etc ... She is walked for 1 hour and 45 mins a day and gets to run in garden. I do training , I was looking for new training ideas really and ways to mentally stimulate her more 

Mina is also a euro doberman , their temperaments differ quite a bit to American and English . 

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What are the differences?

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Bella used to bark at me when she wanted attention - whether this is the right thing to do or not it worked, I turned, looked her in the eye, said NO extremely firmly, turned back and continued what i was doing.  I think the trick was I did this every single time - no exceptions.  After a couple of times she got the point and stopped doing it.

She also used to pull my ponytail when ever i sat down.  I used the same technique.

Both my dogs only get treated for doing what they're told, when they're told or in a treat ball when I have to leave them.  I cut back on their treats after reading advice on this forum and adopted NILF (i have also adopted it with my project team, although they prefer krispy kreme to dog treats!) and their behaviour has improved (both of them!)

I'm not sure of the differences in temperament between english/american dobers compared to euro ('scuse my ignorance), Bella's english - but I hope this helps.

Hi thanks for that , seemingly euro dobes are just a bit more of a handful . I have spoken to a few breeders and they told me this . I think she is trying to push my buttons at the moment esp with my husband away . Just there she jumped on the couch (she knows she's not allowed ) she wouldn't get off so I got her collar and she turned to put her teeth on my hand ... This is new , she stopped this ! What is nilf ? Thanks for your comment , bella is beautiful . 

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Actually, the temperements differing "quite a bit" is a myth, typically spread by euro-breeders who are trying to get your money lol.  Just like N/A dobes, there are different lines, some are stronger working lines, some are more show lines, etc.  This is just like people think that the euro dobes are bigger, and it's just not the case, unless someone is breeding out of standard dogs.

Sounds like a pretty standard doberman pup to me.  For mental stimulation, you can give your dog jobs to do, play games, that kinda stuff.  I taught my dog scent detection, we play TONS of tug, and I always work training into the tug sessions.  When Dakota was a puppy, I taught her to help clean up the yard, I would have her pick up sticks and put them in the wood pile, stuff like that.  I would have her carry around things for me, whatever I could think of.

There is a difference in temperament with euro dobermans., this is my opinion
After all we all have our own opinions . Thanks for your post , ile up mental stimulation as much as I can.until
She is 6 months then up her excersise .

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In my opinion, she's acting pretty normal.   5-month old doberman pups are chock full of mischief.  They will test their limits, invent their own games, and usually will keep you on your toes just trying to keep up with them.  AND....this behavior continues for some time to come before they 'mentally mature'.  You can definitely teach your pup to calm down with some training techniques, but even with training, while she's this young, she's going to slip out of that 'good girl' role occasionally and just be a brat.  It happens.

NILIF stands for "Nothing In Life Is Free"....meaning Mina needs to learn that she has to work for everything.  Pats on the head, going outside, being fed.....everything.  But by 'work' I dont mean impossible tasks.  Just something as simple as a 'sit' command before having her food dish put down for her.  Just a 'look at me' command (where she will look at your face and actually make eye contact for a couple of seconds) before she gets to go out the door, on leash or free if you have a fenced yard.  Simple things that she does every day become 'commands' if you insist that she do them when you tell her to.  She will start to listen to you in order to get what she wants----food, toys, attention.  It works. 

Seriously, give it a try for a few days (be consistant....hit and miss is just wasting your time) and see if it doesnt make a difference.

Hi Dj's dad , thank you very much.for your sound advice .
I think I just needed to hear that her behaviour is normal
And. ime not doing anything terribly wrong . I adore her , its just
Been a tough few days . Doesn't help here in Scotland at the moment
The streets are like ice rinks and its dark a lot ! I will read more on nilf and
Act on it consistently ! Thanks again .