3 yr Male vs. 6 mos Female

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I have been a lurker in the background for over 3 years.  I did not join before this, for everytime I had a question, I found a related post concerning it. 

Boy are all Dobies alike or what!

 

Also I live in Western North Carolina and the internet does not work very well in my neck of the woods.  So I can only check your site from work on the sly, SHHHHHH!

 

I do have a question now.  I have a Teenage Dobie 3 ½ years at the moment, when we first got him our other dog was a old man of 12 years, but he taught the puppy well.  The only thing Chewbacca did not do was play rough.  My huband did that for Tiberius, and has the scars to prove it.  Well Chewie passed away, and I had thought Tiberius would like being the only dog, but I was worng.  His separation anxiety that was aways a little high, went out of control.  So we got T’Pol who is now 6 months.  Tiberius went with us to pick her out, and he did make the choose of her out of the 3 females they had. The dogs do love each other, and it did solve Ti’s anxiety problem.  BUT…………Tiberius is a bully.  He is the dominate male which I knew he would be.  But he can cow T’Pol with one look.  When he stuts by, T’Pol bows her head.  Now I know this was normal, but the real problem is he is scary and when he really is dominating her, she pees.  She does hold her own while they are rough housing, and even will be the agressor sometimes now that she has some weight and height on her.  But I hate it when he intimadates her into submission to that extent, and my couch can’t take too many more accidents.

Any suggestions?

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hey there, there are a few of us here that are also in WNC!!!

I can't help much on this one, I know when I saw any of my dogs so much as show an instant of that kind of terrorizing they were called down immediately.....it got to where my dogs totally ignored each other, I always envied the people who had dogs who would play together but mine were never allowed to intimidate the other one and I guess it led to the total ignoring thing.....so not sure how you want to do this

maybe others will have better insight

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Thanks for the reply Talisin!

I thought this was a tough one.  But I am finding that when I get home at night, (my husband is with them most of the day) if I separate them and give them alone time, it seems to help some.  I am also hoping that as she gets bigger she will be able to "man-up" some.  For last night for the first time, she bullied Tiberius out of the way and got in the door first, it was grand to see!  I also have been walking them together, and now think I should do the walks alone with one at a time, to give them that separate time with me.  For that is Tiberius favorite time of the day, walks with Mom in the woods.

Time will tell.

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LOVE your dogs' names (Big Star Trek fan myself)

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DJ Dad, You must be!

It is so funny ONLY Trekkie recognize the name, and you are only the 2nd one to know where Tiberius's name came from.  Thank-you

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I have an older male, Argo, who is the dominant one and a younger female, Zooey. They play pretty rough with each other - Zooey is the same height as Argo but not as broad. She holds her own but I do watch their play carefully and step in when I feel like Argo is getting too dominant and escalating. Being consistent with calling him off and making them take a break has become easier now that I've done it consistently. I also don't allow him to steal things from Zooey, which he will when he gets the chance. They are funny because they act a bit in suspended animation when I'm not around, sleeping a lot. Sometimes it seems like the rough play is for my benefit. If you keep a close eye and set the stage for no tolerance for inappropriate behavior it should settle down over time. Alone time that is equal is good although sometimes I think Argo's dominant behavior is triggered by jealousy so you may just want to keep it in mind. Since yours is still young, things should settle down.

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Leslieak, Thank-You

 

Yes, yours sound like mine.  I do think all this is triggered by jealously, they both steal things from one another, and there is TWO of everything, but they are never as good as the one the other has!  My husband and I have become more diligent in watching them.  Things were better this weekend, but I added more exercise to the mix, and wore them both out.  " A Good Doberman is a Tired Doberman"

 

Thanks all for getting back to me, appreciate it!

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My favorite phrase is "a bored dog is a destructive dog" kinda in the same wheelhouse.... exercise can make a huge difference in behavior.....

I just saw a post in my rescue group that a doberman needed a home now that his owner had moved seems the dog was displaying questionable behavior changes in attitude since moving - turns out the girl moved to an apartment and was not exercising the dog at all due to small areas.....so instead of getting her butt outside with her dog she is rehoming him, I think that's a shame.....she should have understood her dog better.....

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Sure is a shame.  You would have figured that was a easy one, small space, active dog.

Why do people like that even get a dog?

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The great thing about Zooey is she tires Argo out but unfortunately Zooey never gets tired...She is so funny because if Argo successfully steals something and I didn't see it happen she will stare at me and moan and groan as if to say "Mother, are you going to do something about this?" We have two of everything but one always becomes the most valuable. It is really fun to see them truly enjoying playing together so dealing with their shenanigans is worth it.