Sometimes does bad things- inconsistent.

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Yarr's picture
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You can read all about Scout above...

When she was a puppy, Scout was in to EVERYTHING. We worked with her constantly.  We corrected when she dug, when she chewed on things that weren't hers, etc.
She used to dig at the fence, chew the fence, hang out by the fence and just think about chewing or digging there...

We filled the yard with toys and bones.  I set up a sprinkler that I could turn on from inside the house so that when she started poking around I would just turn it on and she would get away from it.  I even put a remote-controlled car out there so I could get her attention from a distance. (She wouldn't mess with the fence or dig when I was outside with her; just when left unattended.)

We have had a peacful relationship with the fence since then.  It does its thing and Scout does hers.  Until the other day.  I went inside to answer the phone.  5 minutes later I went back out and it looked like a bomb had gone off.  The hole was about 3x3' wide and about a foot deep.  Lightning fast!  She didn't get out either.  She was just laying in the sun looking satisfied that she had done it....

Her crate is in a front living-room/den that is also barred by a baby gate.  She stays in the crate when we're at work, but we have began leaving her just in the room when we're going to be gone for a short time.  Trying to wean her off the crate and let her have freedom later on...

She is good 99% of the time.  We'll come home and she'll be sitting on the living room floor just happy as can be.  She doesn't even get onto the couch that is in that room. 

A couple days ago I came home from the grocery store and she had chewed the carpet.  She hadn't 'naughty' chewed anything in MONTHS!  I obviously couldn't correct her for it, but I was baffled as to why she would do it now.  We had come so far!

Again, these bad behaviors aren't normal. She doesn't do these things often, but when she does, it's like she's saved up a lot of little offenses to do one big felony.  What's worse, she's huge and can do a lot of damage in a short time, and I never know when Evil Scout is going to strike.

Any suggestions?

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hi yarr...i tell you... i wish i knew...i really do.....maybe a piece of puppy is always left in them....i'll  let you know when mine are adults....even at nine months they are "inconsistant".....angels or devils....roll the dice....

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How long did you leave her alone for... sounds like she just got a bit bored.  You were not around to entertain her or keep her attention so she tried to keep herself busy.  Unfortunately for us when they keep themselves busy it almost always ends in destruction and a huge mess.  It's not that she is saving her offenses for a big felony.  She is just able to do A LOT more damage than when she was a little puppy.  My dobie girl will be two in Jan.  Only since since around Aug- Sept has she been reliable outside the crate.. I have not come home to any damage.  We had to work our way up... starting with just quick trips to the store and now she can be out when we are at work. We had to take a few steps back in training and shorten the trips a few times but she got it.  Also make sure she has something that can keep her occupied like a stuffed kong or fun dobie proof toy.  Good Luck ;D

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The hole outside was no more than 5 minutes.  She just went nuclear all of a sudden.

The carpet chewing was maybe about half an hour.  A quick trip to the store.  She had been left alone for longer than that before. 

The thing is that we try to remain consistent in working with her.  We take her for walks several times a week, and other times we train and work with her in the yard or in the house.  She loves to play soccer, so we do that several times a week as well.  The only times she doesn't get regular exercise is if it's raining, which hasn't been often lately.  She gets new toys fairly often too- my wife can't resist buying them whenever we have to get food, which is at least every other week.

Our work schedules are fixed, so she's not being subjected to huge variations of activity levels...

Hence the bewilderment. 

Why dig a gigantic hole under the fence if you have no intention of even leaving the yard?
Why that day of all days?
The carpet? 
Why now? 
I don't get it. 

I suppose there's still a lot of puppy in her though, and these things will work out with time.

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Did she walk on the day in question?  I noticed that my Puppy was particularly destructive on days she did not ALOT of exercise.  I am not surprised she did not leave the yard.  They are velcro dogs and don't really want to get away from their owner.....and her goal in digging the hole was probably just cause digging is fun! I know what you mean though... they can dig a trench in under a minute... amazing...
A tired puppy is a happy less destructive puppy.  Even with all the training in the world a puppy is still a puppy... and accidents and bit of destruction can happen.  The only thing you can really do is watch her like a hawk and try to catch her in the act of being naughty so that she can be corrected.  You are right... There is still a lot of puppy in her. 

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My 2 year old female exhibits this same type of behavior..random and different types of destruction regardless of how much exercise she has gotten that day. We can go months with not a single issue and suddenly..boom! The wallpaper may be pealed off, bed may be destroyed, a toy she has had for a year is suddenly shredded to bits, an area of the yard may be dug up.. The list goes on. I must add that she only occasionally acts up and is usually well behaved except for these sporadic destructive behaviors. She was however a handful as a puppy and I mean a handful! I have always remained very consistent with her though and after about a year and a half she really turned around for the better..it was as though she matured overnight. When corrected and discipled for her actions (I use the "end of the world" guilt tactic on her proclaiming plenty of "ohhh my gosh's".."how could this happen!" and "did you do this?") she shows a tremendous amount of apologetic gestures including sitting somberly with her head slightly down. Sometimes she exhibits the apologetic looks before I have even discovered the destruction like she is apologizing in advanced for not being able to control herself. Half the time the behavior is not repeated (for a few weeks or months at least) but the other half of the time she may fixate on her destruction site and attempt to repeat the behavior when I am out of the room or yard. If she is caught in the act of trying to repeat the bad behavior she will immediately try and play it off like she wasn't doing anything. For example, if I walk in the room to her chewing at her bed again that day she immediately starts to lick it like she was not just chewing it again. Or if she digs up a portion of grass and attempts round 2 She may quickly lay down onto of it as soon as she knows she's about to get caught again. I look at it this way, if your dobe is usually well behaved and only randomly acts up it's probably because she has been restraining herself for so long from messing with something she really wants that now and again she just can't help it even though she knows she is doing something you do not approve of. I noticed a slight trend in my girls random outbursts and it is usually when the weather is changing.. Like before a storm or when a cold front is approaching. Sometimes it will occur after an exciting trip to the dog park that she hasn't winded down from yet. There are times when I can't point to any particular cause for her change in behavior. Dogs are like kids though and sometimes even the most well mannered child throws a tantrum in the toy aisle. Good luck to you.. I hope you are able to find a solution.

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You guys just don't understand.. Dobermans are reknown Dragon Slayers.. I know you can't see them in your furniture, your wall paper or even in a portion of some grass ( dragons are sneaky) But our doberkids can smell 'em and are only protecting you from the viscious and sometimes evil dragons!!

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Thank you Lady Kate for the great laugh! I will have to share this fellow dog lovers, they will get a good chuckle.  Nothing could be so true!  I have been fairly lucky though, Diesel only seems to attack pillows and recycling every now and again.  He was crated for his first two years of life and for the last year, he is free in the house while we are gone.  He is pretty good, but randomly he searches for "dragons" in the recycling and in my favorite pillow on the couch.  I just shake my head at this point, I just worry he will hurt himself.  I have tried putting a baby gate up, but he can jump it!  He used to climb it when he was a baby.  He is full of personality!