Re: Dobie with sensitive skin, loses hair. Little help?

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Recently Scout has developed acne on her chin and the fur around her neck (under her collar) has begun thinning.  She's a year and a half old and this began about a week ago.  I read that the acne could be caused by a vitamin deficiency and because it and the thinning hair began at the same time, I think it makes sense that this is the cause. 

Does anyone else agree/disagree? 

Before I go and buy a bunch of doggie vitamins, I'd like to know if there might be something else I hadn't thought of. 

She's due for a vet visit in about a month anyway, should I go ahead and take her in now?

What do you think?

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Don't freak out... it's totally normal.
I work with (right now) 15 Dobes and I can tell you that not a one is without zits  :P  It's something they're known for.  They're actually ingrown hairs usually.  If you fall into the category of "zit popper" and don't mind, you can squeeze out the trapped hairs and help the puffyness go down.

As for the part under the collar... What type of collar is it?  We've found that the ones they call "furr savers" can help lessen the hair rubbing.  What's actually happening is that the collar is probably chafing a little, irritating the skin and encouraging the ingrown hairs.  That's what causes the bare skin bump thing.  My little girl just started getting them under her chin and I'm still getting the knack for squeezing it fast and hard enough that they pop right out.  You should see my friend do it though, the dogs barely notice what he's doing and it's gross and fascinating at the same time.  Yeah, I know... I'm weird!  The collars we have (loosely) on the ones more prone to it are like this one:
http://www.petco.com/product/101040/Petmate-by-Aspen-Pet-Comfort-Cushion-Collars-in-Royal-Blue.aspx

My little girl also got a couple spots on her back foot from her splint rubbing and, because the foot's still sensitive and I don't want to bug her too much, I've been experimenting with using those scrubby shower gloves and warm water to exfoliate followed by a little vitamin E oil.  Haven't done it long enough to reach a verdict, but it works for humans so I though I'd give it a shot!

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It's just a normal nylon buckle collar.  Nothing special. 

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Dobermans can get acne under their chin from food residue staying there and feeding bacteria. It would be a good idea to wipe her chin gently with a warm washcloth after eating. You could also try not keeping the collar on. Put it on her only when you go outside.

Say away from the vitamin and mineral supplements though - assuming you're feeding a quality food. Good dog food is balanced, so adding vitamins can throw off that balance, give her too much of certain minerals. This can cause serious skeletal problems. I doubt a vitamin deficiency is the problem anyway. It's more likely hormones - she's going through puberty.

Why you see the vet he can test for deficiencies. That's the only time you should give vitamin or mineral supplements. He can check for other problems too.

As long as she's not getting bare patches I wouldn't worry about hair loss. The Doberman go through cycles of shedding that can leave the coat a little this around this age.

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Thank you.

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Hi,
I have three dobermans, a Blue, a Fawn and a Black.   Acne is not normal at all, call a dermatologist, and they will tell you..
if you can, remove the collar, or use a rolled leather collar.
Do not feed in a plastic feed dish or water pan, the acne is caused by bacteria, it gets in to the plastic and the acne can get a lot worse.
There is a  soap you can get, DermaBensS, give her a bath follow the directions be sure to treat the worse spots twice and make sure you rinse her really good, several minutes dry off excess water and let her air dry, do this once a week for about a month, her coat and skin will be back to normal..
Also, remember, most dog foods are made from ground yellow corn, (cow food) dogs do not process this, it is just a cheap filler that causes allergic reactions, like acne and hair loss, so if you are feeding corn based dog food, go to a beef and rice, it is cheaper 50lbs for just under $22.
Best of luck to you and your dobie

Joined: 2008-09-10

Our 8 month old male black and tan Dobie also has raised bumps along his trunk.  They seem to get worse after going to the Dog Park.  Since we have not taken him to the dog park in a few weeks, he only has 2-3 bumps total. 

Another recent problem with in the past 2-3 weeks is dry patches of skin, almost perfectly round, with hair loss in the area.  He has two patches on his trunk and one next to his left eye tear duct.

About 2 months ago we tried switching him from Nutro Large Breed Puppy to Purina Pro Plan, but have gone back to Nutro, in case it was the food, 1 week ago.  The spots are not improving as of yet.

Any suggestions on what would cause the dry patches of skin and what to do?

Thanks!

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Dear RFine,

You may want to have your dog checked out at the Vet.  It sounds just like what I've been experiencing with my 9 month old and found out today he has mange.

I too thought it was because I changed his puppy formula to adult formula (which the vet told me to do after he was neutered).  I was wrong...

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While they are in the house and in the fenced back yard, mine do not have collars on. I put the collars on with the leads when we go somewhere. They do not have the normal collar mark as a result. I started doing this because the vet takes off their collars when boarding .

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I forgot about this post. Here's an update:
When we took her to the vet, he recommended Omega 3 vitamins.  These are basically fish oil supplements.  He said to give Scout one pill every 2 to 3 days and see what happened.  Her coat is thick and shiny now and the acne has all but disappeared.  Our vet said that unfortunately, there is not any one dog food that has everything that every dog needs.  Once again, just like people, dogs are individuals with their own little quirks and needs.  You do the best you can with what you've got, but sometimes you might need something extra. 
I would not recommend using the vitamins unless your vet advises you to.  I mentioned to the doctor what Horseatingweeds said about skeletal issues and potential other problems associated with supplements.  He said that that's absolutely right, and that you shouldn't give your pet medicines or supplements of any kind without first talking to the vet.  Some things we take for granted are pure poison to a dog.  Like chocolate.
So be careful.  Talk to the vet. That's what they're for!