puppy food for large breed (how long to give it)

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I am  curious on how long you should feed a doberman "large breed" puppy food?  Puppy food in general, and until what age?  My  wife's dog is 70 lbs and 7months. Also ,I shop at petsmart, and become overwhelmed on all  the brands.  Without taking the list posted on this forum, do they sell the good brands of dog food there? (not like  purina, Iams, science diet brands ,but the other ones I've never heard of?)

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I went through this same thing.  The vet told me to start Snoopy on adult food when he was 6 months.  Other Dobie owners have told me to wait untill he is at least a year.  Snoopy is small for his age (1year/ 26 inches tall and 60lbs).  I just switched him to adult for large breed.  I feed Nutro Ultra Holistic for large breed and he loves it, and does really well on it.  when I first brought him home I was feeding him Iams, and everybody I know told me that Iams is expensive but not good for your dog.  This is a very opinionated subject with dog owners. Somewhere on this site there is a link with the grades of dog food that really helped me out with choosing a food appropriate for Snoopy.  The Nutro is a litlle more expensive but the dobies love it.  Also there are alot of rumours about dog poisoning and all that jazz, so choose wisely.  I was told basically that anything that you can buy at the regular grocery store is not good for your dogs.  I shop at Petsmart and they have all the brands the regular store has plus the premium brands.  Purina, Iams are considered to be the in the lowest grades of food for dogs.  here the link is.

http://largedog.meetup.com/boards/view/viewthread?thread=2914614

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Hi there
Q has a sensitive tummy so ive kept him on proplan which is made by purina. Its very bland and contains no artificial colour or herbs. It scores 94A on the website which is good I think. Ive also started to mix a bit of pedigree chum in with it as proplan is $165 a bag over here and  Q goes through in under 4 weeks :)

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thanks snoopdog for the link. I'm going to print it off ..... so is the consensus that i should feed xander adult for large breed at 1 year?....  holy cow Q tip ,165 a bag.?

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Snoopdog, thank you sooooo much.. I've printed out the page and will switch Sofia a.s.a.p. Was told ( by our vet) that BilJac was the best, it only scored a 68 F so no wonder we're having so much trouble with weight gain and thyroid control..
$165.00 a BAG Ria.???. Holy Moly.. that's a lot!

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;D Sorry guys I should have said thats 165 kiwi dollars. I havnt done the math but i think our dollar is a bit less than yours.

Kate...Maybe Sofia is just large boned? :)

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I looked at the iams dog food I have, and took the dog food grading instructions on the link above, and got a score of 32.( I may have done something wrong but anything under 70 is an f anyway)   soooo... We went to pet smart and picked up some Nutro  Natural Lamb and rice. It was only 10 dollars more and has a score of 98.  ;D

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The currency converter says $165NZ is $122US. That's still an awful lot for one bag. I thought the last bag I bought was expensive at $50 US for 30 lbs. (That's the equivalent of $68 NZ for 14 Kg)

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Thank you :) Yep its a 30lb bag, and i keep strictly to the feed instructions on the back so he is having around 1lb a day in kibble.
Having seen the results of Q's sensitive tummy im not willing to keep trying other brands ??? Bulking it out with rice is the only thing i can think of but then im not sure if he will get all his daily requirments?

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Iams, Science Diet, and Purina ( except a few exceptions) are garbage food from what I have researched.  The slick marketing machines of these multi million dollar MNC's have a lot of people fooled.  The few extra bucks for A+ rated food will be WELL worth it if it can increase a dog's lifespan by months or even years.  I once had an orange tabby cat who I fed Iams food for most of his life.  I thought it was a good food, but didn't know any better.  He was not fat, but died of heart failure at 14 1/2 years of age.  Sure that is a pretty good long life, but now I wonder what would could have been had I fed him a better diet with premium food.  Maybe he could have lived to 16 or 17?  Did that inferior food lead to his condition? Only God knows...  There is no way to prove it either way.  That said, I will only feed Rocky with premium food for as long as he lives.  We NEVER get to have our dogs long enough, and if a better diet will increase the odds of staying healthy longer, then that is how it will be.

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You are so right, Laser... we NEVER get to have our pets as long as we'd like to.  We've since switched Xander's food (still in the process) and he seems to be doing well.  It costs a bit more, but it will be SO worth it if it means a healthier pet.

How is Rocky, by the way?  He and Xander are just a couple days apart in age and I often wonder how Xander's milestones are in comparison.  I'd love to see updated pics of your boy.   :)

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Hi XandersMom,

Rocky is doing great!  He is growing up fast.  I haven't weighed him lately, but I would guess a he is a good ways over 70 pounds.  He is pretty tall too, but you can't really tell in the picture.  His body is growing, but his mind is still very much like a puppy ;).  He is such a goofball, he totally cracks us up all the time.  I told my wife we are going to miss his crazy antics as a puppy.  Here is a recent picture.  I'll post a few more on the Rocky Reign thread.  I hope Xander is doing great too.  I'm sure you are enjoying him as well.  Have a great one!

     

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so its been almost 3 weeks on nutro natural lamb and rice ,and almost 3 weeks of , on and off diarrhea/ some vomiting. Time to switch brands ...AGAIN ...

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Laserstrike - that's a real good looking boy you have there.

Xandersdad - Can you provide us a list of what you have tried so far that has not been suitable for Xander?

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He was on iams large breed puppy and did fine. Then we switched him to slowly to  nutro (Over a three week period ), and he did, well, not so  fine. I talked to the vet and he said  after three weeks on a new food, that it  shouldn't be getting the runs.  My wife and I are sick of waking up at night to let him out.  So I went to petsmart and got the blue buffalo puppy "de boned chicken, whole grain, healthy fruits and veggies,"   "Healthy Holistic large breed "  "life protection formula"  "with life source bits". (whatever all that means.  That's what is written  on the front cover.) he started eating it right away .  He didn't seem to like nutro much, and would  barely eat 3 to  4 cups a day. Even though I fed him 5 cups in his bowl.  He lost weight too over the weeks and went down to 67 lbs.

He is 8 months old now.
 
The only food he has had problems with has been the nutro.

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Vomiting and diarrhea will lead to weight loss if it lasts more that a few days. Let us know how he is doing on the new foods.

Princess was started on the Nutro Max Large Breed Puppy because the breeder weaned her onto that, and gave me a large bag that had been pre-softened to take back with me. I had always used Pedigree with success on my dogs. I kept Princess on the Nutro Max LB Puppy until she was about six months old (and had transitioned my other dogs to the adult version) and then switched her. She did fine for about a month or so and then just decided she didn't really like the adult version, so I went back to the puppy version for a bag or so.

In the meantime, because of the cost, I switched the other dogs back to Pedigree. Red was over six years old, had eaten it all his life except for this short period on Nutro Max. The Schnauzers were similar. So I transitioned Princess onto Pedigree and she seemed to like it fine again for about 3 months when she again became a very picky eater. While visiting Texas, my friends introduced me to a dog food they feed their dogs which is a holistic mix made by a local subsidiary of Lone Star Feeds in East Texas (they make all sorts of animal feeds).

She now gets a mix of 3/4 Pedigree and 1/4 Precise because I can't get any more until the end of April when I'll be over there again. (I got both bags the feed store had the day before I left.)

Now, I'm sure some is prepared to point out that looking at the ingredients that are on the Pedigree bag that according to the formula, Pedigree is junk. But, look at the formula and notice that any grain any source or protein other than meat is heavily penalized. However, in the wild, Wolves while pre-dominantly carnivores, have been documented to eat other items, including berries. I have feed my dogs Pedigree almost exclusively for over 20 years (2009 being the exception) and they have done well.

Red has never had stomach problems and eats anything, up to and including paper. He will steal envelopes out of the trash and shred them and eat them. Initially he just shredded them, but the last several years he has taken to eating them. I don't like this because 1) there is no nutritional value and 2) there may be some residual chemicals from the paper bleaching process that can't be good for him. So I have to protect the office trash. Princess at this point will just shred it if she gets one.

The Schnauzers are much older, the youngest is 10 and they have also been on pedigree their whole lives. I feed a total of about 20-22 cups of dog food a day (Red eats 10 and Princess 7-8), and a 52lb sack of dog food lasts about three weeks.

Some dogs have allergies to certain items that may be in various foods, just a humans do. I work in Scouts and one of my youth leaders has a wheat allergy, and if he inadvertently eats wheat, he has the same reaction that Xander does. He carries a supply of pills to help in in certain circumstances. When we travel, he gets to choose the fast food restaurant, because the rest of us can eat anywhere, but he knows by experience where he can eat without problems.

Now the youngest Schnauzer on occasion has problems, but that has been traced to his habit of eating acorns. I think he has finally figured it out too, as he has now quit doing it. With 5 oak trees in the back dropping acorns into the dog pen, he has plenty of opportunity, but the last several years he had not had a problem.

There was an episode of Victoria Stillwell's "It's Me Or The Dog" show before it moved from the UK to the US, where a family had taken the "quality" dog food obsession to an extreme. The mother was cooking for 3 hours a day preparing chicken, beef and lamb for the dogs, while the family ate take-out. As Victoria said, the dogs ate better than the family. The changed. It took the dogs a day to transition, as they didn't like kibble until they got hungry.

I apologize for my long post, but to me, any dog food that satisfies the dogs needs and which they eat heartily without causing side effects is a good food, regardless of the score. And one dog food will not necessarily be good for all dogs. Hans, my first male lived to be almost 12 and ate Pedigree every day I had him. He died of kidney failure, too common in dogs as it is in humans.

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I think some people can be extremist ,when it comes to pets .
If feeding animals only "premium food " was so important we would have to watch them all day long so they wouldn't eat "non premium" stuff ...I.E.  poop, vomit ,wood, envelopes, socks, stuffing ,socks, shoes , rope, moss, socks, thread , stuffing, socks. etc.  Did I mention socks?  So it is more important that they eat, and enjoy life.  How easy is it being a dog anyway!!!???

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I had to really laugh at the "stuffing". Princess and Red have both eaten their beds on several occasions. The foam beds caused me more concern than the polyester filler used in many. When they are finished eating the bed, of course it all winds up outside, and the rains wash away most of what they ate, but the white polyester filling is in white clumps in the yard sort of like strange plants, sprouting magically after each heavy rainfall. The white foam padding is stained afterward, but the white polyester filling resists staining.

I hope you find a food that will not bother Xander, for there is nothing so worrisome than one our critters not doing well. Some (like Red) seem to have a cast iron stomach, and others more touch. Humans are that way, some people can eat anything without any problems, others have to be careful about what they eat. Unfortunately, as we all grow older, it seems our stomachs get more picky.

Keep us posted on how he is doing.

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Hey Lads.. Guess what I found.. Kirkland Super Premium for Adult dogs ( read low fat) right here in our local Costco..
A 50 pound bag was only $35.00! I checked the nutritional guide and it was as good if not better than some of the more expensive designer brands that can cost the same as a small car.
Sofia really likes it ( Had to hide the "Low in Fat" label. she's still a little sensitive about those last six pounds)
The Kirkland brand got an AAA+++ rating on that food guide we read. ( this is not exactly the same, Baja's Costco is a little different.)but the ingredients looked healthy and our dobergirl is doing really well.

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Xander has been on his new food for a week now ... the brand is Blue buffalo ,as stated somewhere previously.  He is doing great,  no more runs or vomiting.  The snow is starting to thaw here in utah ,and my back yard looks like crap ,literally.  I spent most of yesterday picking it up, and i'm still not done.  3 months of snow cover can hide a lot of poop. Just when I think I'm getting a handle on the situation, the snow starts to fly just this morning.:(   But I know that it will melt soon ,and I'll be back on clean up dooty.  pun intended.

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So glad Xander is feeling better.. What a relief no? Keep us updated. It's a concern when they just aren;t dong what we feel they should be, and how to fix it is a 'crap shoot' ( pardon the pun)..
Love your weather reports. I miss the seasons. ( or at least I think I miss the seasons) when I hear about frozen poo and melting ice I realize that I prefer my snow on Christmas cards.
Besos from Baja

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I spent almost 9 years in Central Virginia and when I moved there they said they had four distinct seasons, non of which were over powering. For the most part that was true, but, when it 5 degrees outside and over a foot of snow on the ground, that's WINTER! Summers were very mild compared to S. Georgia, but down here if it gets below 20 degrees, it's considered bitterly cold.

I promised Princess no snow or ice, and so far I'm safe on that. Although right now it's been raining since early morning and the yard has a lot of standing water in puddles (she made the holes) and as she walks through the water getting her dainty tootsies wet, she looks at me as if to say "Ok, you can turn it off now!".

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What?? You haven't gotten her some dogie galoshes?? Fine minion YOU are!  ::)

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Hey, she's a COUNTRY GIRL, don't be mislead by her title.

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Xander is back to the runs again,  :(  Could he have worms or a parasite ? We have stopped giving him any "peoplefood", (at least I have,)i.e. a chip or a small  scrap of left overs etc. He hasn't had any of that for days now. I wasn't able to ween him into his new food, but he seemed to be doing great on it after the first week , now back to the runs . What gives?

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Oh Xandersdad.. So sorry you're having such troubles with his tummy..  It's important to stop the runs and make sure he's hydrated.. Try this:
steamed rice and chicken
boiled egg ( white only)
maybe some sauteed sirloin
pedialyte
That will give him nutrition and stop the runs, but finding the problem is the real issue.. I'll bet your vet can do a stool sample to dx what's going on in his gut. Then finding a dog food that agrees with his system will be interesting.
Please keep us updated.. Hate it when one of our kids is sick!

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By all means consult a vet. Be sure to take a stool sample with you to the vet. If it's not runny, I turn a plastic storage bag inside out, use it like a glove and the pull the outside up and over to turn it normal side out and zip it closed. If it's runny, I use an old large spoon no longer used for anything else, even though it is thoroughly cleaned. (It's an old cheap spoon that I have never liked, so I use it for that.)

It also may not be the food. It maybe something he eats outside. I have a male Schnauzer who has that problem periodically, because he likes to eat the acorns on the ground outside. That the vet will not be able to diagnose. I know it because it happens when the acorns fall and I see him scarfing up on them.

It could also be a bacterial infection. That may show up at the vets.

Princess woke me up in the middle of the night last Saturday morning to go out. I didn't think much about it until about 3 hours later we had to go out again and it was very obvious what her problem was. Two imodium pills took care of the situation. I also cut back her food for about 24 hours, and the next day she was fine. If she hadn't recovered quickly, we would have been at the vets first thing Monday.

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I don't know how good this works or if at all.  A good friend of mine gives me alot of advice on everyday care of my dog.  He is a retired handler for show dogs.  He also has a big Dobie just a little smaller than Red(Rgreen's) oldest before he corrected the thyroid issue.  Anyways he told me when Snoopy has the runs to just give him a banana and hold back on his kibble until he has a solid(non-runny)poop.  I have not yet tried it, but I told it to another friend of mine and he tried it with his german shepherd and it worked just fine, and was back to normal...  Just an idea...

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This is a question re: human prescriptions and meds vs the ones the vets charge a lot more for.. ( talk about a run on sentence!!)
Sofia's thyroid meds are approx. 30 cents each.. Mine are less than a penny.
Her anti inflammatory pills are .75 each. I can get a bottle of 800 mg  Ibuprofen (100 capsules) for around five bucks. I was told that Alleive or aspirin was not recommended for dogs w./ arthritis because of the stomach irritation they could cause. I just read where rgreen gave Princess some Imodium.. so can we or can we NOT administer human meds to our dogs?

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:D
Just a thought re the upset tummy, I have to be really careful in what type of chews i give my dog. Anything that is smoked like those nice pigs ears or anything with food colouring totally scours Q out.

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thanks for everyone's advise and thoughts.  Update for today...I read that giving a dog a couple of tablespoons full of pumpkin His runs have been  more like cow pies, not runny but not solid ,and this last one was solid. I'm going to give it to him for another day and see how he does.  He has been  drinking water like a horse ,so that's good.

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Pumpkin.. I'll be darned.. never heard of that... You still might want to get him checked out.. sounds like maybe it's just a band aid on a possible problem. Such a worry isn't it.. You can ask any of our readers what an obsessive over protective momma I am.. My kids never just caught a cold..nope.. it was pneumonia at best, bubonic plague at worst..I even had Sofia coming down with cardiomyopothy because of a strange cough..
Rx: Switched water bowls. She was bobbing for apples in her deep dish, now she can slurp it up without getting it up her nose.
Hope for a good report tomorrow. KT

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Re: The medications. Many but not all medications can be give to a dog. I only gave Imodium to mine after discussing it with a vet. The small pills are a lot easier to give than the liquid I used earlier.

Prices for meds may vary a lot, since we don't have health insurance on most of them. Red's thyroid meds are about 20 cents a pill or 40 cents a day. Considering where you are, if you are getting her pills from the vet, you might take the bottle with the info to your local Pharmacia and see what they would charge. That of course is not possible in the U.S. and am not sure if it is possible in Mexico.

Those of us above the border, see the ads by 1-800-PetMeds all the time. I have never gone that route, but it is an option.

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I have seen the ads for PetMeds and have talked to folks who  use it and think it's wonderful. We cannot receive any pharmaceuticals in Mexico.. ( the post office DOES open packages and will confiscate and fine any illegal entries. ( the "illegal entries" change on a daily basis so it's best to just avoid any potential problem.
I have considered taking her Rx to a local Pharmacia that I know and trust and see what they will charge and if it's the same formula. My vet says he charges what THEY charge him. I sorta doubt it. What do you think about aspirin or Allieve for arthritis for our pets?

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I understand that aspirin is a definte no no. I don't know about Allieve, I will have to find out.

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two days later Xander has had mostly solid turds with 2 cowpie turds on the pumpkin remedy. I have noticed grass in his poop too.  If he keeps getting cow pies I am going to see what the vet thinks.

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Grass is not unusual. Dogs many times eat grass when they have an upset stomach.

I finally found what I think was the cause for the latest bout Princess had. When vacuuming I discovered the dry straw and pellets in the base of a large artificial plant was disturbed and a large portion missing. I don't know if that caused her problem, but it could have.

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I don't think I could pinpoint exactly what xander may be eating .  He eats everything right now . He has been chewing up my weed barrier in my flower beds, peat moss out of my fake trees in our house , garbage when the door is left open to the bin.etc. etc.etc.  While I'm at this reply, does anyone know of a good calorie calculator for the correct amount to feed a dob?  Age /weight based?

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They do indeed eat anything and everything. Any pencil or pen left in range of HRH is in danger. She will also get paper and shred it, but it is Red that eats paper. Red ate a sock once, I found pieces in the back yard much later. Princess will come in with acorns in her mouth, that can't be good for her system, as well as pieces of wood from tree branches.

They haven't gotten any shoes yet, although Red did chew the tip of one end of the laces to hiking boots when he was a puppy. I was wearing them at the time.

If I was going to hazard a guess, I would say the peat moss, knowing that it is basically decomposed organic matter. The decomposed part may be the key.

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I'm thinking and of course still obsessing over Sofia's past.. she has what looks like muzzle marks on her long nose..  :'(  wonder if she was an eater of everything and her previous owner kept a muzzle on her to keep her from that.'
She will nibble at grass a bit, but other than that, never counter surfs or picks up any crumbs from the floor.  She truly enjoys hand feeding and I confess, so do I. LOVE the feel of her velvet-ness on the palm of my hand..but as far as pencils, shoes, socks. nope. never. THAT would be unseemly!!  ::)

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Yes, it is unseemly. Hopefully when HRH is two she will become more ladylike in her habits. After all, even a young human Princess is still a kid at heart.

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I've been meaning to ask you, why do you call Windy your Avatar?

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On online forums, the image that is posted with the screen name is called an Avatar. It is a representation of the real individual. Some use photos of themselves (rare), some use drawings and her we seem to use photos and images of our beloved Dobies. Although I don't have one here, I have a very involved signature (siggy) on the PC World forums. But there a good many have involved siggys, here it doesn't seem the habit. Maybe because that forum has a good number of more technical members, where as here, we are just Dobie lovers.

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I see... wondered if it had anything to do with the film.. I have been wondering for a long time, and didn't say anything coz it's one of those things, you're SUPPOSED to know, so I was embarrassed that I didn't.    :-\
Then my curiosity got the better of me. Thanks.. it really does have something to do with the film as that's what an avatar is, a representation of you.  See.. ya learn something everyday on this forum.

Springtime has come early to the Baja.. The fields are a carpet of wild flowers. Sofia stops to sniff them and we picked a huge bouquet this morning on our walk/run/chase. She and Mike take off at breakneck speed while I traverse the mud puddles and pick the blossoms. It's a bonding time

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xander eats every pencil in his reach ,he always starts at the eraser then snaps the pencil in half .

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It must be the wood. rgreen says Princess likes the bark of his trees.. Sofia was interested in firewood for short time, and would try to peel the bark off. She nibbles grass, but usually spits it out. Makes me wonder if they're lacking something in their diet, or they just like to chew.

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With school age kids Dallas gets his fill of pencils, not to mention Barbies, hairties, crayons & dinosaur's.  One day neighbors we complaining about people not picking up the dogs mess and we told them if you don't see crayon, barbie feet or hairties in it then it's not ours....  ;D

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Xander Vs. blue buffalo update:   It has been 2 months plus change since xander has been eating blue buffalo, and he is doing great.  I feed him 4 cups a day ,but he has been thinning out lately, since his activity level has increased ,(thanks to spring weather) .I upped his food intake by one cup a day so he is eating 5 cups a day.  He has consistent solid bowels and goes 2 or three times a day is all.  No stinky gas (unless we feed him People food), he just loves bananas and potato chips: )  He is 10 months old . weight is ?...I'd guess 75-80, i really don't know.  He has a healthy shinny coat ,not too much dander,and he seems happy and healthy.

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After seeing a new post on this topic today I sat down, started at the first post and read them all.  It was informative, funny, and entertaining.  After reading it I just had to make a couple of comments.  If they don't make sense you may have to read all the posts again, but the read is worth it.

First, I'm glad Xander's doing better.  Sometimes it's hard to figure out what's wrong with the dobies. They can't talk and tell us.

I agree with rgreen4's philosophy on dog food.  Sometimes people want to attribute everything that happens to a dog to it's food.  While a good quality food is important, other things, such as genetics, play a much larger role in a dog's life.  Just like in humans a dog's size, longevity, health issues, etc are set by genetics.  The food can only have an affect within the parameters set by the genetics.

I have to tell my winter dog poop story about Freyja.  Like so many of our dobies, Freyja is a Miss Priss.  Normally she heads to the woods, the Christmas tree fields, or somewhere inconspicuous to do her business.  But this winter was pretty harsh here in the northwestern NC mountains.  We had snow cover from December 18th until the 2nd week in March.  Instead of squatting in the snow Freyja went to the road, which the snowploy had cleared.  Right along the road, at the edge of our front yard, was pile upon pile of dog doo.  The funny thing was she never went to our neighbor's side of the road, every pile was on our side. (Our road is a quiet, single lane, dead end street, and we are the last house, so no traffic issues. Our kids played in the road when they were young.)  Since the snow is now all gone she is back to the woods or the Christmas trees and the road is clean again.

As for dog/human med compatibility I have a friend who is a ferrier.  Last year he told me that when he or his family gets sick and the doc prescribes antibiotics he will take the pet version if one is available, saying he saves a lot of money by avoiding the prescription route.  He says it's the exact same medicine, just in a dose based on the size of the animal.  Now I would never personally do that, just because of possible dosing differences due to metabolism differences between humans and animals, but apparently he has done this for years without a problem.

Again, I really enjoyed this thread, thanks.

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I haven't been on here ever since they changed the web site layout.  I couldn't get on at first, and just havent tried till today..  Update...  Xander is now on another type of food.   In these economic times, I'm not going to keep paying 50 dollars a bag for blue buffallo, so we are trying pro plan.  Xander hasn't been too exited for blue for a long time now anyway .

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I looked at Pro Plan also but it was actually $48 a bag here vs Blue at $50 from Pet Co.