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I never did an introducing Q thread and I realise that its nice to keep adding new pics to see how they are growing.
So although its a bit late i thought i would do a calendar of my lovely pup.
This is the earliest photo I have of Q with his breeder...doing the pose at six weeks. The breeder was kind enough to keep Q until 12 weeks old as my house building wasnt completed and i needed a good fence up. I didnt have enough for all the section but got half of it done so that there was room for Q to run around. :)

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As Q lived right down the bottom of the north island. We agreed that Q would be flown up. Even knowing that he had been given a sedative by the vet it was a worrying 40 minutes whilst he was in the air.
Here's Q with the breeders son. Of course when i saw Q being wheeled out on the luggage trolley in his crate I nearly cried. I got him out onto some grass and he licked me all over by face so then i just had to have a bit of a sob. 'Drama Queen' I know ;D

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Last picture from my breeder...funny how they automatically stand in that pose.
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I decided to take a week off when Q came so that i could get him house trained etc.  He had already been crate trained thanks to the breeder.

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They don't automatically stand in that pose, they are trained to do so. Mine are not, Princess has good posture so looks good, but is not stacked. Red just looks goofy because he is usually looking down at something or moving. When he sits, he sits over to one side, that plus his down ear makes him just look terrible, but everyone loves the lunk because he is just so friendly.

He definitely lets me know when the UPS man comes though. Most worrysome is that he now recognizes the sound of the UPS truck when it is getting close. Tonight he started barking before it came into sight much less stopped.

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Snoopy also does not stack like that.  I have tried to catch him somewhat standing in that position but he is always leaning to either side.  I think that it looks really cool though when they are standing in that position.  I have tried to show Snoopy to stand that way and he just looks at me like i am crazy.  By the way Q looks pretty buff even as a puppy look at how thick he is.  He is quite the portrait of what the dobie should be...  You are doing a great job with him.  I wish Snoopy had a little more meat on him but I think he was just supposed to be a smaller Dobie.  He is definitely bigger than a German pinscher though. 

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Hey RGreen.. Sofia does the same pose as Red.. head always down sniffing the smells right out of the ground!! When she sees a rabbit, then she'll pose, with the left leg back and head alert and proper,then take off like a shot. But most of the time it's nose to the ground. Aren't' they wonderful?? I am amazed at how unique each dog is. Ria, your baby Q was so special.. what a great puppy and just look how he's grown!!

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What a beautiful pup he was!  And a handsome dog he is now!  I LOVE his expressive face!!!   ;D

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Thank you everybody and to be honest I didnt know that the dogs were trained to go into that position :) Q also has a bit of a wonky left ear but i love him for it. I was lucky to get Q in the autumn so I found it very easy to house break Q. Lots of praise of course for my pup, even when i went back to work I was expecting some mess at least...but nothing :) After Q had completed all his shots we were able to go to the beach. Although i had read i lot of dobie boooks. I hadnt had a puppy since a child and never a boy dog. Not only that I didnt know about the fear/fright factor. Thankfully i found this site and found that Q wasnt mentally unstable. 'blush' Q very quickly fell into a routine, I was surprised at how well he aduusted to my working shift pattern. Once we had got over the NO biting and No jumping I found i had a very lovable companion...a bit of a funny guy at times. I actually loved him sitting in the front seat with me, but he just got too big and had to go to the back.

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:) This is a photo of Q's sire Mannerheims Don Giovanni which i stole of the net. I did write to them but I must have gone in their spam box. :( This picture is 25 years old and the only one I could find. I often try and compare pics with Q and DG...even now I have my doubts :D :D :D
But I love telling people that Q is a test tube baby

Q At 4 months

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Like father like son.. wow.. great picture even if it is 25 yrs. old..
Hey Ria, does Q like to go into the water when you take him to the beach? Today, we took Sofia and she chased the seagulls right into the ocean.. waves were high and rip tide was strong, she was in up to her neck ( and she's kinda tall) No fear at all... had to haul her out, before she sailed over to down under and made an in-person visit to cousin Q.  :o

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;D heh ive jumped forward and this pic i took today. Yes he loves the water but no swimming...he will wait for the ball to come back on an incoming wave. Smart boy :D I can just imagine Sofia doing that and its a great way to cool off. Yikes work today and i have to get my car WOF. it will fail because six months ago my naughty pup bit right through the rear seat belt. ;D

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That picture of Q on the beach holding the yellow ring is one of my favorite shots of him. You can see he is a pup, but from the long legs and big feet, you can tell he is going to be a sizable hunk. They are so cute at that stage.

My other favorite one is when he is on the deck looking into the house as if to ask "What's Up?". You use it for your Avatar.

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:D Lol WOF is our warrant of fitness for the car and having a completely bitten through seatbelt got me a fail. I have 28 days to repair it but hopefully it will get done tomorrow. Q did it six months ago whilst still in the chewing stage :D Ive lost a few things to his teeth but not majorly and it has least taught me to be more tidy. Typical Tom to Ria comment in the Q household. 'Ria have you seen my shoes? Ria to Tom...'oh yeah i put them in the guest room shower :) I would hate Q to get hold of Toms leather shoes ;D He coverts them I think. Rgreen yes i love the Avatar pic. That must have been around the 5 month stage just before he made a small hole in the wall.

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Anyway at five months old I signed Q up for obedience classes which was a good way for me to know how to be the boss in the family. I thought that it was also a good way of teaching restraint as the instructors allow a quick sniff and greet and then on to training.
This is my most favourite pic of Q. The day we had the cyclone and the surf kicked up big time ;D

I think the colours turned out gorgeous...must have been a photofluke

As yet Q has never caught a rabbit....but he knows they are there and gets seriously frustrated when the cat brings them home for her dinner.
I did have plans to train Q to become an ambergris hunter....hmmm still some training to go i think

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:D To date we have completed level 3 of obedience training and just recently started Agility but Im thinking that maybe Q is still a little young. You are supposed to weave through the sticks not pull them out of the ground ;D
Six month old  and always loves looking out of the windows...

Will pick out a few more pics later in the week.

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OMG Ria, he is absolutely spectacular!! Look at that pose and he's just looking out the window. I love the natural look and if I ever got a pup, would leave the ears floppy.. shows their sweet personality. The crop look seems a little frightful to me and though I am happy Sofia is protective, am sorry she scares the bejesus out of most people. Our Sparklet's delivery man won't even come into the yard, he just slows the truck down and pitches the water bottle out the door.
Good luck with the agility.. I am sure Q will adapt to it just the way he's taken to everything else..
Thanks for the pictures. He is truly stunning!

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:D Hey Katie thanks...they certainly do have a loud bark.

Here's Q at six months...we are lucky that we have 100miles of beach to play on so exercise wise Q is able to run to his hearts content.
I worked it out that i can easily walk a mile in 15mins so its not too hard to cover five miles or so. Q probably does more as he is up and down the dunes or running after the ball. I will sometimes run for around 20mins and Q will match me now pace for pace.
My breeder was really insistant on small walks to begin with to protect my dog's growing bones and ligaments so we started out slowly and increased gradually.

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:D Because i am a bit of a light weight I thought it best to get Q leash trained as soon as possible. I have to say he really is a delight on the lead nowadays. Its as if im not even holding a lead. When he was younger I would sometimes wrap the lead around my back legs and hold the leash with my right hand instead of across the front of the body. I found I could counter balance much better that way if he ever pulled.

I also found all the training tips in the training section great...especially for recall.
he looks massive in this pic but he was a lot shorter. He has now grown taller and leaned out. Weighed last week at 76lb ;)

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Q is now almost 14 months old so I am thinking about neutering later on in the year. There was some confusion in my head over what was a doberman thing, what was a boy thing and was what actually agression.
Ive never seen him aggressive towards other dogs, we have mainly female dogs here and they seem to boss Q around like anything. Q is always eager to play with other dogs but sadly some dogs dont really like his size and growl at him but Q just takes it in his stride. When he does meet another boy dog he loves to do the shoulder thing and maybe have a bit of a wrestle but as long as the dog is of equal size it dosnt bother me anymore...
Heres Q playing with Kanuka :D

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Taken this morning.

When Q met Sally

A racing greyhound, it was really nice to see the two together as i believe the dobie is part greyhound :)
Oops...i was trying out photobuckets beatify gadget. :P This is my Rembrandt period.

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;D They spent a nice time running around but for Q to catch her he would need rocket boosters on his feet. Sally just glided along :)

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How do YOU spell joy?? d-o-g-s!!

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Sorry Q-Tip no Greyhound in the Doberman. But put a Doberman on a coursing course for sight hounds and they can embarrass them on occasion. There was an incident some years ago when the coursing hound group (Greyhounds, Whippits, Wolfhounds and Afghans) in Washington D.C. was setting up a course in a public park. A Doberman owner out walking his Dobie asked if he could run the course. The group setting up started laughing but said yes. He had the quickest time. On a straight run, the coursing hounds are faster, but when the artificial rabbit suddenly jinks, the Dobie closes the gap because of his quickness in changing direction and acceleration.

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:)Heh im sure i read somewhere that Mr dobermann used the greyhound ;)
I would have loved to have seen that coursing ;D I always thought Q was pretty fast until yesterday :D

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There are few dogs in the world that can catch a healthy Greyhound in a straight run. Over here they race them on oval tracks, and of course there is a big problem with retired racing Greyhounds. There is an organization that tries to find homes for them so they won't be put down. It is strictly a commercial operation like horse racing and some that are champions are used for breeding, but most are not.

I decided to look it up on Wikipedia, and I was apparently wrong as the section of History lists Greyhound as one of the 11 dogs in the background of a Dobe, including the one he really started with the Manchester Terrier. Apparently this is where the spots on the paws came from - many Black and Rust Dobes have a round black spot on the top of their paws that is present on the Manchester Terrier but not the Rottweiler the two Black and Rust dogs. The Rottweiler was at one time called the German Butcher Dog and is sometimes listed that way on the Dobe background.

Here is the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doberman_Pinscher

I disagree that Dobes are not terriers. Yes, most terriers are small, and the Dobe is not, but anyone who has ever had Dobe loose in the back yard for any length of time know that one trait of the terriers is still very present in the Dobe - DIGGING! Princess is on a mission to find the bottom side of China, from my back yard. She is a very adept and quick digger. Some of her holes are over a foot deep! That is my project when the weather warms up, return my yard to it's original flat topography rather than the West Virginia mountainous terrain she is trying to emulate.

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Sally was a retired greyhound and we do have a rescue greyhound adoption society here. I'm still thinking about a companion for Q. We met with an animal behaviourist recently and a boxer cross who has been at the SPCA with a view to adopt but she had no interest in Q and wanted only human contact.
Q has black spots on his of his knuckles and I definitely agree with the terrier part. When Q shakes sometime to 'kill it' he shakes it just like a ratter would ;D Or maybe that's all dogs :)
As for digging we are on sandstone but if i sit down on the beach then Q will dig a big hole then lay in it :D

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I don't know if all dogs shake their "prey" but terriers certainly do and Dobes certainly do. Princess has a purple latex loofa toy like this. http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3593089&lmdn=Pet+Size

She will shake it and shake it. On occasion she will lose her grip and it goes flying. It has hit me, the TV and the front windows. That time it fell down behind the couch and she looked at me crestfallen. I had to get up, move the couch and retrieve the toy. She immediately began shaking it again.

The latex one is the only one that will stand up as the fluffy one will fall victim to the TEETH.

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:D Thanks for the link Rgreen. I am so tempted now to order it.

I'm just off to fill in some adoption papers for a little girl we met the other day. Kindly brought over by the SPCA with a whole gang of dogs.
Her name is Sophie and she is a 4 month old brindle staffy/cross. I will post a pic of her this afternoon.
Out of all the dogs she appeared to take to Q the most even wanting to come with us when we left. :) Q was incredibly gentle with her and it seemed like they were going to be the best of friends. We need to be inspected by the SPCA to ensure that we are fitting so fingers crossed. ;D

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I don't think you will have any problems. You can also refer them to your vet to verify how well you take care of Q. Q is actually your best reference. And what a magnificent reference.

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Xander had one of those loofah toys... in fact, it was the first toy we gave him when we brought him home.  Unfortunately, it wasn't the latex variety and it didn't take him long to rip the stuffing out of the poor thing.

Now any toy we get for him cannot have a tag or a loop or anything that sticks out, or he'll work to rip it off.  Even tennis balls can't hold on to their fuzz for long. 

Any toy that can hold up to a doberman's persistent teeth for longer than a day is a GREAT toy!!

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Even their beds are not immune. Right now both Princess and Red are on sheets laid over a throw rug. Both have eaten their beds, which concerns me because they had thin foam pads. If I get them the variety that has polyfill, then I have white puffs all over the back yard. Hmmm.... wonder where that came from.

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Trying to make snow??

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I don't think you will have any problems. You can also refer them to your vet to verify how well you take care of Q. Q is actually your best reference. And what a magnificent reference.

Aww Thanks Mr Green, I couldnt have got Q to where he is now without all the valuable support from here. I wish to give my thanks to all the knowledgable people, the long term dobie owners, the breeders and webby for putting up with me ;D

Xander :DI'm always at the petshop looking for dobie proof toys ;D but i seem to do better with empty milk cartons and old buckets. :)

Sadly when i got to the SPCA yesterday there was already an expression of interest on Sophie but ive put out name down anyway so will just have to keep out fingers crossed. They are still coming out to check the fence etc so that if another dog comes up we will be more ready. ;D

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;D

The burger between Q's paws lasted a day >:(

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And here's Sophie...who may be coming to live with us :)

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Oh  my gosh Ria, what a character she is. ( and I just LOVE the name!!) And just look at Q hoping for a little sister!!
The storm here in Baja has kept me off line.. power outages and wind is howling like a banshee right now. Sofia is wadded up like a cocktail shrimp on the sofa trying to become invisible as she is sure I'm going to haul her outside to go potty.Her eyes are scrunched tightly shut as if to say " If I cant' see you, you can't see me."

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Ria,

You have one handsome dobie!!!  Love the beach pics!  Our vacation's at the beach this year and we're taking the pups.  I sure Lucky will stay as far away as possible, but I'm curious to see what Dallas does.

Annette

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;D KT I knew you would find the name appealing. I had to smile myself when I found out what the pup's name was and thought of you straight away ;D

Annette...As my poppy always used to say...lifes a beech and then you diet. 'winks'
Even though we are on the beach every day Q didnt start going in for a good six months ;D
I see you have some snow in your pictures? Not sure we could do snow ;D Brrrrr. Which place roughly are you taking your beach hols. I did a bit of travel over there.  ;D

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Hi Annette!!
The  beach was interesting to us as well.. The first time we took Sofia, she skipped around the water like it was on fire!! Then spotted a sea gull and off she went all the way into the surf, up to her neck.. Got caught in a tide pool and we found out she could swim.. We were right behind her as the waves were pretty big and I had always heard that dobermans ( dobermen?) didn't swim very well and a life vest was important.. glad we had one on the girl, but she held her own against the tide..
Will be curious to find out how Dallas does.. What beach are you considering?
Ria.. all the best luck in the world tomorrow for your new baby.. Let us know if we have another Sofie.. scritches to all !!

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Lady Kate - I think that the slimmer and younger Dobes are the ones that have the problems. Just as humans that have a low body fat content have trouble swimming. Those of us who have Dobes that are a little more endowed in the body size will note they have an easier time swimming. (Fat floats).

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SHHHHH !!

We don't' use the "F" word around her ladyship.. Big Boned, well endowed, maybe even full figured . But NEVER the.. "F" word  :-\

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Ria ~ we're in Ohio, the pups love the snow and chasing the kids around.  They will slide their front paws and snow will fly up and they try to catch it in their mouths...it's a site!!!

We're planning on going to the Outer Banks.

Kate ~ once Lucky jumped  in my parents pool and basically sank she made it to the steps but barely!!  Too much muscle mass our Dobies have.

Annette

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How do they handle the cold?  Do you bundle them up or are they used to it? Our Sofie just hates it and will race around like a nut til she gets inside and then proceeds to shivver and quake til I hug her warm..

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They're use to it.  When it's cold out they just go out to take care of business and they're right back at the door to get let back in. We have a fenced in yard.  I have been thinking of get jackets for them but we're never really out that long, I don't like the cold either...brrrr!!!

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It looks to be around 75 degrees here in Baja.. Puuurfect weather for walking, running or beaching.. and I'm going to try the "border training" suggested by TODAX.. We have a big green belt behind our row of townhouses and most of the time Sofia is spot on with the border, but she does get distracted once in a while. I think it sounds like a great idea.
P.S.
Do your dogs HATE bicycles?? Mine goes a little crazy when she sees one. ( even from the car.) She'll bellow like a banshee.. wonder if there's some past issues with that..

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75...I don't want to hear it...LOL!!!  Here it's suppose to be 40 with rain/snow mix...lovely!!!

Border training..huh! Let me know how it goes.  Bicycles don't bother Lucky, lots of kids riding bikes in our development.
Not sure about Dallas we'll have to see in the spring. I'm alittle concerned Dallas might have some issues with cars it's hard to get him out and experience this with the weather and there's not much car traffic on our road when we are out.

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Most dogs seem to hate them. They're different and the pedaling motion (up and down) seems to attract them so they chase after them and rarely catch one, which frustrates them.

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We don't' use the "F" word around her ladyship.. Big Boned, well endowed, maybe even full figured . But NEVER the.. "F" word 

Does Dobie snort at the F word ;D

Annette Oh Ohio is a very pretty place...I have a friend who lives there...not sure of the population?

So anyway we have been assessed by the animal trainer at the SPCA and deemed fitting and she actually said that Ms S will be the boss of the family. Not sure how she found that out :) But Q is always very gentle with little dogs/pups.
So Sophie is coming next week. Eeeks I need to get prepared.

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Oh Ria.. I am just so happy for you and the Q meister!! I know  Sofie will be a very welcomed addition to our favorite KiWi family.. Now, tell us about the new little princess.

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Congratulations on your new addition to your family. I know that you and Q will be more blessed by her presence and she will be blessed by the love you and Q give her.

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:) Thank you. I have sooo many questions and didnt know whether to start another thread or not as Sophie isnt a Dobe. :)
I wasnt going to get another crate but then I thought she may well need some time out from my lovely Q.
To be honest i have never had two dogs at once...im sure it will all sort itself out but im a little nervous.
Mr Green what happened when you bought Princess home to Red. Did you always ensure play was supevised up to a point? Who do you let out first, who do you feed first, how do you share the love equally. Could you walk both on a double lead? I wanted to do this but thought that Sophie orSofi might get accidently peed on? :)