Lucky & Dallas Introductions!

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I did this a little backwards and started posting first.

Our Dobie story goes a little way back. The first dobie experience was when I was 12 my Uncle was breeding Dobies and talked my Dad into getting one. He brought home the cutest black/tan dobie that we named Sheba.  I helped my Dad train her and she was the best!!!  We were blessed to have her for 12 wonderful years.   

Lucky ~ When my daughter was 2yr she begged and begged for a dog.  We told her if she would use the potty we would get her a puppy. It worked and time came to add to our family I wanted a small dog like a cocker spaniel, but then my husband reminded me about Sheba and what a great dog she was, decision made, we were getting a Doberman.  I knew I wanted a female, because Sheba was so loving so we picked out an adorable black/tan female.  Before we even got her my daughter would say that she was going to name her dog Lucky, well no arguing with a 2yr old on a dog name so Lucky it was!  She has been a dream!!!! She trained easily and we love her dearly!! She loves the kids, if their outside she crys at the door to go out with them and rotates sleeping in their rooms at night.  It is such a comfort to have her. She will be 9 this May and still loves playing with the kids and running.  She does have some trouble with her cruciate ligament after a some serious rough housing with the kids but Anti inflammatories help with that. 

Dallas ~  I have been wanting to get another Dobie for a while but my husband would talk me out it. I think I finally broke him down and he gave in to the idea.  I thought it would be nice for the kids to experience a puppy and I thought it would be nice to have a running partner too. So in November we added  Dallas to our family a handsome red dobie!  I have always loved the red dobies.  My son is a huge Dallas Cowboy fan, thought Dallas would be cool and so did we.  He is now 4 1/2 months old  and he fits right in. The kids love him and he the kids he crys at the window while they wait for the bus in the morning and as soon as the bus pulls up it's crazy dobies at the door.

We were worried about  Lucky and jealousy, but my oldest (we all) made sure Lucky got plenty of attention when Dallas came home.  She avoided him for a while unitil she realized he was here to stay.  They definitely have a Big sister, Little brother relationship they tease ( mostly Lucky to Dallas), horse play  and I even catch them cuddling every once in awhile.

So far it has been great!  It does get alittle crazy with  4 kids and 2 dobies but I wouldn't have it any other way.
I'm just trying to prepare myself for some of the hurdles that my come with a boy.  Not sure what to expect.

This is a great site and everyone is very helpful with questions.  It is so nice to have this resource!!

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Hi Annette
I love this forum too.. Not only have I learned more than I ever dreamed about dobermans. I  have made some close and lasting friends. With all the love people must have in their hearts to adopt dobermans.. they have to be the best folks in the world..
I know that Dallas and Lucky will take care of their family and vice versa//
thank you for posting your history with these guys!!
smooches
KT and Sofia

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Trajuette - many think that the male is more aggressive than the female, but I'm not so sure. The first two I had, Windy and Hans (Windy was my first and two years older) were quite a pair. She mothered him as she was two when the 8 week old Hans came to live with me. She protected him and there was no doubt at all who was in charge of the house. If anyone wondered, she would set them straight. The only time he patrolled the house and barked at strangers was when she was in the whelping box with puppies. When they were weaned, she took back the security detail and he became the couch potato again.

Males in the house do have one bad habit - marking. Now if you wind up neutering Dallas, and since Lucky is probably not intact any longer, it might not be a problem, but don't count on neutering curing the problem. It's a guy thing. Now if you have this problem and you sew, you can take some terry cloth or old towel along with some velcro and make a belly band for Dallas when he is in the house. Some will say just work on the training, but the first one I saw was on a neutered male miniature poodle belonging to a friend who was a dog trainer, exhibitor and AKC Judge.

Until I got Red and he was about 9 months old, I would board all my dogs with her. I had boarded dogs with her for 15 years and by the end of that time she was cutting back and only had a few customers. She had ceased grooming about 5 years earlier. But Red was getting to big to go through the opening to the outside kennel and the end came when he ate the flap on the opening. It was too much of a hassle to take Red to the vet, and the other dogs to her, so they all started going to the vet's.

Victor (the poodle) did not like the band, but she would strap it on him and with the velco across the ends where the met on top of his back, it stayed on. I have seen commercial ones since. I have threatened Red with having to wear one. When you take them to the door it is real easy to separate and take off. The commercial ones don't use terry cloth but disposable pads. Sandy used to just wash Victor's with the bedding.

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Thanks rgreen will keep that in mind, belly band, wil look into that. Never heard of it.  I am planning on nuetering Dallas but would like to wait till he's at least a year. Lucky is nolonger in tack so we'll see what happens. 

I do have to say that Lucky definalty is more protective but Dallas is still young.

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I agree with waiting until Dallas is at least one year.

Here is a link to a site offering a variety of bands. I have never put one on Red, but should have. If I ever catch him again, I will. He has been very good the last year. I am not advocating this supplier, just offering them as one source. They do have a very wide variety, whereas commercial dog supply stores may have only one or two. I stumbled on this source as the result of a google search.

http://www.kennelkomforts.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=BB2&source=googleadwords&gclid=CIiP4dHZxZ8CFRKfnAodxjZw0g

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Thanks rgreen!  I checked it out and they had a demo video.  Now that I know what it looks like, I think I can make one myself! 

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As I said, Sandy made hers from cheap white towels from Wally World. Or if you have some older towels that still are absorbent, they can be used.

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:D Hi Annette
That's a lovely story, Ive only seen aggression in Q twice so far and by this i mean with hackles and growls...once was whilst in the car and a motorcyclist was driving too close behind us ;D my poor ears ;) and the other time was at a fishing torpedo on the beach ;D
I had two episodes of marking back in November in the house it was like he forgot the rules :D None since...but I do watch him and even if i cant see him...I will still say 'I'm watching you Q'. and give him 'the look'  Ive finally learnt how to use my body language  so no shouting needed and can also read his like a book (i think) :)

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Thanks Ria!  I'm hoping if I keep an eye on him and stay on top of him it won't be a problem.

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Do hackles always mean aggression? Sofia will hackle and bark at the bicycles. Once last month while we at the dog park in the states, she ran as fast as she could clear across the two acre park to the fence to scream at the passing bikes..

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I have seen what I think is fear aggression once at the dogpark.  I don't know why but this one little cocker spaniel type dog had Snoopy freaked out, and the little dog was like drawn to Snoopy as if he is irresistible or something.  Snoopy was afraid of him, and was lunging backwards as he was snapping his bite at the dog.  I don't know why this dog bothered him so much but he was scared you could tell.  Snoopy is met at the dogpark gate by 4 different pitbulls and a rottweiler, with no problems but as soon as the little cocker rushes him he freaks out.

The only time I have seen his hackles stand up is when he is in the backyard and see's or hears something he finds threatening I guess.  I have noticed that he has developed a little bit of being territorial, but only in his backyard.  His prey drive is through the roof though, I am sure that my backyard being like a wildlife haven does make the prey drive easy for him. There are all sorts of animals he will encounter in a day, and if he had the choice he would spend all day out there chasing squirrels,  I have to make him come in sometimes because I want him inside with the family.  Then he will stand at the sliding glass door and whine to go back out to protect his territory...

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Lady Kent - hackles do not mean aggression, but they do mean that the dog is "clearing the decks for action". In that I mean the raised hackles are a danger sign. The raised hackles along with the deep guttural snarl and ears flat back on the head, mean "stop what you are doing or I will attack".

I have only really seen it once with one of my dogs, and it was Windy, my first. I had gone back home to visit my parents at Christmas 1982. It was a very cold time and Mom was in the kitchen. I had left Windy asleep in the sun coming in from the back window of the den and was talking with mom in the kitchen. She commented that the only barks Windy had used were the ones she used when she wanted outside.

Suddenly we heard the loud guttural snarl and the deep resonating bark of a Doberman, from the living room. I immediately went to see what was going on, to see my father standing in the door coming in from the garage. He had gone out to get something and was wearing a heavy jacket and a ball cap. Windy had never seen him dressed like that, and as far as Windy was concerned this was a stranger. She heard the door open and went to investigate to see a "stranger" approaching her in her home.

Dad, being familiar with dogs, instantly froze. I simply told him to speak to her, and when he did, half the hackles went down, her ears came up and the "tip toed" up to him to sniff. When she got a good sniff of him, her tail started wagging and the rest of the hackles went down. Dad, reached down, scratched her between the ears and praised her.

We almost had a real bad incident when Princess and I were visiting in Texas. Jane and Ken's grandson had gone over to get his girlfriend for the opening of gifts that morning. Princess was loose, and we were sitting in the living room and she came over to where I was sitting. Suddenly, before either Jane (sitting next to me) or I could stop her, the girlfriend rapidly approached Princess (from about 6 feet), got down and had her face about 3" from Princess. The motion startled Princess, who had an escape route and bolted away. We took the opportunity to educate the girl of just how bad an idea that was. Except for the escape route, she could have gotten bitten - badly.

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Thought everyone might enjoy this Dallas story.

I sent my 4yr old to get her socks that she left outside.  Next thing I know she comes in crying that Dallas has her sock, sure enough there he is laying in the grass with her sock hanging from his mouth. I send her back out to get her sock from him as I tell Dallas to stay so she can get it.  She starts crying again, I asked her what happened. She said Dallas ate her sock.  As she turns around to walk back to the house he spits the sock out of his mouth.

Have a good day everyone :)

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Soo good to see you again.. Have missed Dallas and Lucky stories.
Happy to hear your Ohio weather is getting better. Sox huh? Where they "Premium" sox?  ::)

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LOL that was funny hello from Izzy and Judy from Mississippi

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Hello Izzy & Judy  :D

Kate ~ things have gotten busy here. Spring sports have started at our house and we've been busy running from practice to practice. Good          thing the dogs do good in the car.  How is Diva Sophie doing these days? 

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She's gone from a bit aloof to the happiest dog in the world.. ( I think it's the six month rescue rule)Her tail wags constantly and she is just always happy and prancing. Except when I took her to the vet's the other day..( thryoid check) she pouted and sulked all afternoon. She's very expressive and let us know in no uncertain terms that she was very displeased with the entire procedure.. After all.. how undignified to actually be TOUCHED by the techs without permission. Lifted up and placed on a cold metal exam table and then STUCK hhmmph!!. P.S. thyroid is still a little low.
Life is good..