Help!!! I need sleep!

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Prince is 13 weeks old and will not sleep through the night. My maltipoo slept through the night after a week of having her and I got her at 8 weeks old. I have had Prince for 2 weeks and his sleeping pattern has improved since the first night. He was waking up 3-5 times per night and now we're down to once a night, at 4 am, like clock work. His last feeding is usually around 8 pm and his water gets taken away 30 minutes later. We have tried ignoring him and, true to the determined nature of his breed, he persistently howls and barks all night. So instead, I take him out, let him do his business, and bring him right back to his kennel, at which point he barks and howls to be let out. Is this situation due to his age or is he just wanting to be let out to play? Any suggestions?

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Are you putting him outside at the last minute before you go to bed? I think your Maltipoo is an exception as going all night at the age of 10 to 11 weeks is a bit of a stretch.

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He always goes outside right before he gets put to bed and to no avail. I know he can do it because he actually has slept through the night on one occasion. After he does his business, I even allow him and Bella (my maltipoo) a 10-20 minute play session before bed. My fiance and I are sleep deprived and, as a result, not happy campers to say the least. I guess I would feel better if I thought it was just his age...but I'm not so sure. How long was it before your pups slept the whole night through?

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I wonder what would happen if you left the kennel door open after he went outside before bed time.
Is it a crate?
Do you have a doggy door?
Does he have free roam of the house otherwise?
Where does Bella sleep?
Maybe he misses you.
Does he nap during the day?
Inquiring minds want to know.

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He is in a crate. There is no doggy door as we live in a heavily wooded area and do not want any unwanted creatures coming into the house. As he is only 3 months old free roam of the house is a no-no unless I am around to supervise. Bella has free roam and sleeps wherever she wants to. (Which is usually on the rugs in my bathroom or in her doggy bed in the living room.) We had his kennel placed in the laundry room on the other side of the house so we decided to move it into our bedroom/bathroom and last night he slept for seven hours straight. I guess he felt more comfortable sleeping near us. He definitely naps during the day after he has a rough romp with Bella in the yard. I am home with them all day so he plays hard and naps hard.

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They not only love to be close to you, they HAVE to. Even when they grow up and get a little more secure with being by themselves, they will still come and check out the house and watch you sleep. It can be a little disturbing to open your eyes and see two liquid amber ones staring right at you.. Sometimes Sofia will snuffle my ears and give me a quick little kiss to tell me "sweet dreams". They're not called "Velcro dogs" for nothing.
Your pup will adjust and so will you. They are highly intelligent and sometimes a little needy, but he will learn that sleep is good, he's safe and so are you

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I am happy to report that he has been sleeping longer and longer every night since we moved him into our bedroom. He actually made it to 6:45 am last night!!! I took him out, he did his business, and back in the crate he went where he slept until 8:30am!!!

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That's good news.. Things always get better with a good night's sleep, poor baby, I'll bet he was exhausted too!!
now if someone can tell me how to get Sofia outside to do HER business when it's raining, I would appreciate it.. I finally had to drag her out with her leash and stand there watching her try to shake each drop off. ( it was only sprinkling, but you'd think it was pellets of fire landing on her.. ) When she was finished, she raced into the house and jumped onto the sofa and snuggled down into the cushions trying to disappear.. WHY do they hate the rain so much?? anyone??

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what should i do to get my pup to stop crying all night in the cage? ive tryed to give her something that smells like me and ive gave her toys in there i dont no what else i can do? can anyone think of anything to help me? 

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Andrea,


Spend as much time hanging out in front of her crate as possible...We did that for a day and it paid dividends immediately with our pup.  Trick her into thinking it is the place to be and associate it with good times with you.

 

Of course, this is assuming that she is not whining due to medical reasons.

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no as soon as she gets out shes fine but if you put her back in she starts back up and she just keeps it up she just dont like it she wants to be loose. but i will have to try that it might help i hope so cuz she will stay up all night andi let her out in the morning to go to the bath room and i leave her out all day so she will sleep all day and whine all night. so should i stay there with her untill she falls asleep or what just stay there for a little while and then leave? i want to be sure i do it right for her.

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How we helped Steve adjust, we put his crate in our bedroom and I put it right across from our bed so he can clearly see us.  I go to bed and read when I put him in his crate so he isn't being separated from us.  It's really hard for these guys, or any dog, to be alone after they have been used to sleeping with their brothers and sisters.  I give him a special toy in bed with him as well, this worked better for my border terrier as a kid than it did for Steve.  

I would make it a more normal thing as well.  We crate him when we are out of the house, and I also put him in a "play room" (can you believe I have a whole sunroom dedicated to dogs? its true!) when we are eating.  He can see us so he knows the separation isn't permanent.  Just some thoughts.. hope it helps.

Stay consistent.  Thats the main thing, pick what works and don't deviate!

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ok thank you for answering me.and i hope that works itshould though cause she really dose hate to not se me shes my baby and she gose under my couch in the day to sleep but she wakes up like every half hour to hour shes under there to come make sure she can come see me and make sure im still around.

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Thats their job.  :)  They want to be with you 24/7.  It will work, just be patient and don't get frustrated.  The first two weeks where I was getting up at 3am to take Steve out and then up at 5am to head to school all I wanted to do was cry from lack of sleep but he eventually made it through the night and though sometimes he throws "temper tantrums" when I put him away to read he's getting better and better about it!

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thats good see we have her in our room but were i have her crate she cant see the bed so she crys and she dont stop if we say something she will stop for a sec then start again so i guess tonight im going to move the crate so she has a better vew of me so im hopeing that it works.

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by the way your pups cute as can be how old is he?

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andrea - did it work having your pup in a position to see you?  Or at least know you're there.. she'll figure out she's in the same room eventually.

I have to post new pictures of Steve.. I've been slacking and he's been growing!! He is now 13 weeks!

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yes it worked great she cryed a little when i first put her in there and after that she never made a sound thank you so much. last night was the first night since we got her that she slept all night. and he is a cute pup and also what do you think about the cutting of there ears if you dont mind me asking your thoughts about it?

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Glad she is doing better at night.. not sleeping is awful for both of you!

There are lots of good posts on the ear cropping part of this forum.. go read that because it was a huge reason as to why I joined this group in the first place!

 I think its a very personal decision and you have to prepare yourself for the work involved if you do crop them.  I like the look and I wasn't too worried about the upkeep as I've handled bandages/etc before professionally.. even then today was rough getting them taped up myself!  

My friends decided not to get Steve's brother's ears done.  Once they meet (when Steve can handle Maynard's size) I will do a side-by-side picture to post.

Keep in mind they have to be 8-12 weeks old to do the initial crop so you really have a limited time to decide if you want it done.  Research good vets in your area... there were a few around but I went with the breeder's vet because I'd seen the outcome and he came recommended.

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see thats what in worred about i dont really no of any good vets near me for the ears and i cant go throught the vet that the person that i got her from cause i like in ohio and she came from michigan. and the other thing is i have a week stumic when it comes to the sight of blood it makes me sick and im worred about all that cause i never want any pain to come to her and i no i am going to feel  so bad if i do cause there going to cut off her ears and its going to to be my fault shes in so much pain. i more worred its going to make her mad at me and hurt our bound together. but i am going to read about the ear cropping and see if it helps my thoughts on it.

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Read those threads.. and if you are worrying about it like this, maybe its better for both of you not to do it and just let her be floppy.  There is nothing wrong with that!  We get our dogs for what they bring to our life and sometimes their looks just aren't that important (you should see how ugly my old man dog is..).

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lol ya im the same way i get them as a new member of our family and thats all like my 1 year old jules she my little mixed girl and i love her shes just as good as any full blood that my kids and thats all they need to be right.