I think it's a great idea

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Found this article on facebook, and thought of Phil straight away beacuse of his comments about not liking the term 'owner' or 'master'.

Thought you might all like to have a read :)

 http://www.care2.com/causes/ohio-city-adopts-the-term-guardian.html

Sian and Harley

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Agreed,guardian is a far better term for our relationship with our pets.

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I have no problem with the terms "owner" and "master."  Pets are members of the family, yes, but there is a definite hierarchy and I see no reason to blur the lines between the value or place of the pets and that of the human family members, if that makes sense. 

It is good that they are making an effort to change the way irresponsible people value their pets, changing the mindset from "thing" or "possession" to "family member."  When I took semantics in university we learned that rarely does changing a word or term change the mindset of the people; actually it has to happen the other way around.  For example, racial terms that are considered offensive are replaced with ones that are considered more politically correct - "native canadian," "african american," etc.  But that doesn't erradicate racism.  In fact if the racism was gone, those racial slurs would lose their negative connotations and would cease to be offensive.  You would be shocked at the origins of many english words that seem harmless now, only because the original mindset associated with them no longer exists.

I'm getting off topic here...anyways it would be interesting to know the results of the change, and whether it actually has an impact on the rate of animal cruelty and neglect in that city.

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hmmm very interesting Sweetpea. Thanks for your input,.

I am some what on the fence regarding this matter. I think it is a really thought and I know for alot of families the pets are very much considered as part of the family. But then you have the flip side of the coin where some people have a distorted view of their pets and just see them as an object :(

And I can also see that all dogs needs leadership and when it comes to the family and children the dog must see himself at the bottom of the pack.....no ruling the roost. 

So I guess I can see both sides and I too will find it interesting to see what this achieves in today's society :)

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Unfortunately, the people who view animals as nothing more than breeding money making machines or backyard creatures aren't going to change.

The laws in CA are stiff and there is two police animal services operating in the area I work. People still use dogs for fight training - just saved a bait dogs life last weekend - or posion neighborhood animals, which is currently going on in that area too.

People do awful things every day to each other to kids to animals. Truly education is the most effective way to change mind sets and even then catch them young.

Good discussion that started! Loved your points Janelle.

Thanks for sharing Sian :)

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Thanks Jes :) I love to hear everyones opinions (especially yours ) as varied as they may be.....I like to consider myself with a somewhat open mind and I think that's one of the reasons why I love this forum so much. Such wonderful and varied opinions on almost everything yet most of the time no one is nasty :) Thanks guys and keep the opinions coming 

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Thank you for sharing this Sian. I've always thought of myself, not as an owner or master... but as a kind of adoptive-mama :D  I have no problem with the terms "owner" and "master", I've just never thought they were completely correct when talking about our relationships with our fur-babies.

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Sian wow......

sweetpea I have to disagree with you on this one, but I do see your point.

How many times have we seen the term "doberkids"?

So if these beautiful and loving dobermans are our kids. Are we truly their master?

If they are kids and not ours. They are kids that we have adopted. If we adopt kids we are not their masters, but their guardians. we protect and instruct.

We teach and instruct them how to live, have respect for others and themselves, what they can do and what they can't. So by the time they are adults they should know right from wrong. By the time they are adults we are still their guardian and instructor, but a different type of relationship begins. The relationsahip goes from guardian to best friend, at that time their is less instruction and more of a comapnion. 

Guardian:

A person who looks after and is legally responsible for someone who is unable to manage their own affairs.

Master:

A person who has dominance or control of something.

Companion:

A person or animal with whom one spends a lot of time with.

 

I have never thought of myself as Caine's Master. As a pup I was his teacher and his instructor, as an adult he knew what was right and what was wrong. Then he was my buddy, my companion. He was my companion, we did everything together, went everywhere together including work, and together 24/7. Even if I was not able to take him to work everyday he still would be my companion, my best friend.