This is for Harley

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I stole this from my fb page and I thought of Harley.

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Oh Tess!  You crack me up!  Thank you! I was feeling a little bit down about talking about my goaties!  I am part of a goat forum but it is not nearly so interesting as my doberman friends.

Here is a picture of my herd queen Oreo.  She snuck into my kitchen the other day and I couldn't help but take a picture while she was looking at herself in the mirror.  That's why her ears are all out and wild.  She was ready to go gangsta on the "other" goat!

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I LOVE the goatie, Tess!  I'm going to share him.

And HarleyBear? Your goat is absolutely gorgeous!!  Does she sneak in the house often?  What kind of goat is she?

(Questions, questions.....)

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Goats see fences and laugh at them.  The saying goes: If you can throw water through it a goat will also go through it.  They break out ALL the time.  My poor neighbor just told me yesterday that he just lifts them back over to my side.  They love to jump on things and spring themselves off the walls.  Trying to contain a goat is a challenge!

Here is a 30 second video of them from when they were babies, they were so small, just jumping.

http://blueantlerfarm.blogspot.com/2012/05/mack-daddy.html

Miniature goats are super popular right now, but I have full-size nubians.  You can tell they are Nubians because they have those long pendulous ears and a roman nose.  The white one above looks like a Nigerian Dwarf.  Super cute and high butterfat in their milk.  YUM!

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Years ago I went to visit a friend and they told me that they had a billy goat. Thats all they said...what they neglected to tell me was that as soon as your back was turned, you were fair game. I got educated when I was bending over in my car to get my belongings when I got the pushed in the car with such force that I landed on the other side. In retrospect it was funny but ar the time I was quite upset lol. Gotta love them though...soooo cute!

 

 

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I wasn;t having the best day (seems a lot of us aren't) and this just made it much better! Loved the video, another goat post for the day! haha

Funny story since we are talking about goats,
I was standing at the kitchen sink with my back to the door which was open and I turned around and there was a goat standing in my door! Chewing on some grass just staring at me, if I had neighbors that had goats this wouldn't be very surprising...but I don't know of anyone around who has goats! Needless to say he seemed to go back to wherever he came from just as quick as he stood in my kitchen...I still don't know where he lives!

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Tess, ouch!  That had to hurt!  Hopefully that billy was de-horned or else double-ouch!  Their heads are HARD, trust me I know.   Even harder than a doberman's head.  I am constantly trying to dodge being whacked in the face by either Harley or the goats.  

My doelings are not so interested in head-butting.  Unless the dogs are bothering them or there is a goat in the mirror.  

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Steph that's pretty funny!  I am sure that goat just escaped his yard.  Happens all the time with goaties.  You handled it better than some of my neighbors.  I live in a pretty residential neighborhood, and my older neighbor lady called 911 when she saw them walking along the sidewalk!

Now I keep dogtags on them with my address, name, and phone number.  

On the bright note for today, Animal Control came and did their inspection and granted me my Animal Fancier's Permit.  Yippee!  That's been in the works for like 6 months now!

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Congrats!! You must be so excited! :)

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Lil.. Not only is that the best news of the day.. It's now my FAVORITE post on this Forum..

Thank you!

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What's an Animal Fancier's Permit?  o.O

 

Cute cute goaties btw.

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That's very sweet Kate, thank you! I really have to get my butt in gear and get my goats health tested so I can find them a stud.  They'll be a year old next month, so in about 6 months (the fall) I want to get them ready to be "freshened"

I am not not entirely sure what I will do with all the milk.  Nubians will produce roughly 1 gallon a day.  That's a lot!  I heard hard cheeses uses a lot of milk to make a little bit of cheese.  Any other suggestions? 

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Goat soap is pretty popular, have you every thought about doing that?

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Tannaidhe, I bought my home and property around this time last year.  It has a little 1300 SF house, a free-standing garage, a greenhouse, a shed, a treehouse, a pond, a dog run, a garden, and a barn with 3-horse stalls.  The owners before us kept a horse on the property and my neighbors two doors down have a few goats.  So I didn't think I would need anything special to keep goats on my property.

Turns out I am zoned residential and not agricultural.  So we are not allowed to keep livestock or exotic animals without a permit and inspection for the county animal control.  So for me to keep my goats I needed to apply for Animal Fancier's permit.  They require at least 2500 SF per goat (check), shade/cover (check), and for the food to be stored in an air-tight container (check).

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Ah, neat!  Who knew?  lol


As for the milk question, I'd also recommend soap, it's wonderful, and shockingly easy to make!  I can help you out if you decide to do that, I love soapmaking.  A lot of local stores or farmer's market type places will let you have soap there on commission, or there's Etsy/Ebay.  Make the goaties hep pay for themselves!  lol

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Steph, I think that's a great suggestion!  I already make my own cold-process soap (coconut oil, olive oil, palm oil, and vegetable oil).  I just have to learn how to incorporate the goats milk. I'll be making a batch this weekend, I'll try to add some store-bought goats milk and see how it goes!

They've been talking about adding a local market in my area.  It would be nice to figure out a way to sell any surplus.

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Oh Tannaidhe, that's wonderful!  I was thinking I should rebatch it?  Would that be your suggestion?  I just worry that adding goat's milk at trace would ruin the milk?

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Can you guys imagine it?  Goat-milk soup with dry lavender ground up in it?  Sounds luxurious!

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You can rebatch with it, or actually substitute the milk for water to dissolve the lye in.  Warning: Doing it this way STINKS to high heaven, and yes, it does make little curdles so you will have to use a blender if you don't already.  It also darkens the final product, making a creamy gold kind of color.

I've done it both ways with equal success.  I prefer using the milk in place of water, but that's just cause I'm lazy and don't want to fool with the rebatching....  >.>

 

ETA: My favorite goat's milk soap I've made was with honey and oatmeal, with a few drops each cinnamon and clove oil.  Smells DIVINE! Kinda like graham crackers, only better.

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That's a great idea! I love local products :) If you start making goat soap maybe I will buy some from ya and get you to ship it up to me in Canada!

They make cashmere out of goats too, but I think that might be a hefty project to spin the undercoat...maybe somethign to look into though!

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Tannaidhe: If you don't mind PM-ing your recipe I will try it this weekend.  I've never rebatched before, because, like you, I am lazy, and don't want to mess with it the next day.  :)  I can handle a little stink.  

I wrote a whole blog post about my last unsuccessful batch.  I had my oils way too hot and it started overheating.  It was like a science lab in my kitchen!  But now that I have been using my own bar soap, I can't go back.  

Steph, that's funny that you mentioned fiber, because we were looking into alpacas at one point in time.  My husband has family that raises alpacas.  But for now, I think we are good with the goats.    We have an empty beehive in the living room, so that will be our next project.  

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I don't mind at all, recipe on the way!  :-)

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Hey you guys are so creative. If the soap comes out Ill give my address and gladly pay to have some. Im a sucker for great smelling soaps.

 

Tess

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I would open up an ebay store or a facebook page for the soaps and sell them that way!!! go to the local farmer's markets when they start up and so on......lots of places LOVE to offer locally made soaps in their stores so you may need an agent hahahaha you could just strap a vest that says "I make soap ask me about it" on the goat and walk it around town hahahaha

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OK---I gotta tell my 'funny goat story' now.  Years ago, we got this billy goat from some friends that moved to town and could no longer keep him.  He was a bigger-than-normal Alpine billy with  long curvy horns, named Boomer--so named because every time you bent over, he would stand up on his hind legs, lower his head to the side, take aim, and BOOM!  Boomer loved to ride in the back of a pickup truck, also....he thought he was a dog, I swear.  Anyhow, we lived down this really long lane off the main road and nobody ever came back there unless it was friends or family that knew Boomer and knew how to maneuver around him without getting butted. 

One day a van full of church ladies pulled into the driveway.  They opened the side door of the van, and a couple of them got out to invite us to their church.  There were still two or three ladies still in the van.  Boomer meandered over to see what was going on, saw the side door of the van open-----and hopped right in, ready to go for a ride.  The church ladies all started screaming and jumping up on the seats trying to get away from him, and Boomer was trying his best to stand up on his hind legs and take aim at one or two of them when me and Barb managed to get to him and grab him by the collar around his neck and drag his stinky self out of their vehicle.

It was SO funny to see a bunch of ladies put a vehicle in gear and burn rubber getting out of there.  LOL     Good old Boomer...he was a funny guy!

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If you make goat milk soap, let me know. Its the only soap my mom uses for washing her hands. (She has excema [sp?] and regular soap hurts her skin and makes it worse.

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DJ'sdad that was a funny story!!! that rhodesian ridgeback and I did the same thing to the door to door church people, they came to the window and I told them no and Rojo was just waiting for a clue to jump and rush the window when they refused to go away I told him NOW and he threw himself at the windows and gave them a good scare, I wasn't worried about the windows cause we had already had them all replaced with lexan because Rojo had busted through them so many times.....but the ladies didn't know that and they ran on foot so fast and of course Rojo wanted to know why they ran cause he was just trying to show them his toy, no one got out of the house or yard without seeing his blue ball hahahaah and he would race to the door or window with it and panic if it looked like no one was watching, twice he fell out the window cause he didn't brake fast enough with the ball.....now that really scared the neighbors nothing like a huge ridgeback falling out the window carrying a blue ball.....he was so funny.....one of the most loving dogs we had.....

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Love the Boomer story Paul.. thanks for the laugh..

Lil.. I am so excited for your soap venture.. You have a built in market right here on the Forum..( me too... me too.. ) Plus.. it seems to me if you decide to.. you could even go bigger with Amazon.

I read your blog about your 'science experiment' and loved it..  but just think.. I'm sure the folks at DOVE started out that way..

             Lilian's Love Soap.

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Oh DJ's Dad!  Was the goat a buck/billy?  I bet he smelled to high heaven and those ladies were screaming!  LOL!  Male goats, especially weathers, make good pets.  They are very sweet and don't stink!

I am at least another year out before I start making soaps/cheeses with my goat milk.  I want them to be old enough and physically big enough to handle pregnancy and labor.  But I can go to the store and buy some goat's milk easily, so I can start making soap and getting the recipe down.  

I have a food swap party in April.  Those are so fun!  You basically go with all your home-made goods (vegetables, bread, jams, soaps, etc).  You go and you walk out making like you totally made out.  Super fun!

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OMG, these little naughties are the cutest things ever!  LOVE the story about all of your friends coming over and rescuing Harley's buddy out of the pool.  Very wonderful indeed.