Got in trouble but I don't think I was in the wrong...

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So, the other day I was walking around downtown with my friends, and we usually hang out on a roof of this abandoned building, which is trespassing I acknowledge that, but that's not the point. I'll get there, anyway so we walked up onto the roof (I'm shaking while I write this so I apologize for any typos I don't catch) and there's a man on the roof beating a dog! It can't be more than a year old, and it was a german shepherd. I don't really know what I was thinking (I don't think I was...) because I ran at him screaming and shoved him away from the dog. We brawled but neither of us got seriously hurt, I was more concerned with keeping him away from the dog then hurting him. Anyway the police were called and he was arrested and I have a fine for trespassing, and they said they'll be contacting me if he decides to press charges for assault. It took me fifteen minutes of trying to politely interrupt for them to finally acknowledge there was a badly beaten dog behind me. They took the dog away and I don't know if it ended up okay but I am FURIOUS with the police for basically brushing off the fact he was beating the dog to death! They had to sedate it to take it away because it was snapping at them for the pain, and all they're concerned with is the fact I was trespassing and I attacked him. Which I didn't really, I didn't throw any punches and what was I supposed to do? If I would have hid and called the police the dog would probably be dead! That's it, I'm moving to an island....sorry for the rant, I know I might not have had the best/smartest reaction but I guarantee you if it was a child I would be held up as a hero. Dogs are like children to me...

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God how horrible for you !! I am so so sorry.. .and I have nothing to offer except praise.. I think you were a hero and probably saved a life!

I hope nothing bad comes from this, but you know we're all here to support you no matter what.

Katie

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Please PLEASE PLEASE, never ever attack a grown man again.  For your own safety.  I understand you just reacted but lets learn from this that your safety HAS to come before any animals.  I know you love animals, but your life is more important.

What do your parents say?  If the man indeed goes to press charges you need to go and talk to a public defender (it will be free) -- I would look into it right now either way so that you lawyer up and the police leave you alone.  You need to protect yourself because assault is a very serious charge.  You are a minor.  Refuse to talk to the police anymore if they ask you for questions or admissions.  You do not say ONE THING to incriminate yourself if you haven't already.

I would say that you were scared for your life watching him beat the dog and when you tried to tell him to stop it escalated.  But get a lawyer.

I'm sorry about the dog, but most likely he is in a better place now.  there are a lot of horrible people out there...

PM if you have any more questions, okay?

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I think most of us would have done the same thing.  My friend told me that just as she was getting into a cab to go to the airport the police showed up in her neighborhood and arrested a guy.  She stuck around long enough to talk to other neighbors and find out why.  The guy had beat his dog to death with a shovel.  These days people are making me sick.

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I can relate to the fury you have for seeing any animal mistreated. But you also have to understand and realize that in today's society you are extremely lucky to have walked away from that. With mixed martial arts being so popular and the fact that it's common for every man to have a knife on him or even a gun, attacking him wasn't the best way to go about it. As far as the police ignoring the dog they have priorities (which are the human elements) and most police departments don't handle animal abuse cases. That's usually left to Animal Control Investigators, etc.

You have to understand from a police officer's perspective that they probably arrived on scene to find You, the other guy, and the dog. All of you probably had some sort of manifestation of  injury. So these officers have to take pieces of each of your stories as to why the other one is there and based on the visible evidence have to determine what happened and establish an outcome and I'm sure the other guy wasn't telling the whole truth. Granted your situation (depending on what time of day) is either the first of many or one of many in that officer's day. They could've easily been 2 or 3 calls backed up by the time they finished with your situation. But they're expected to handle each call with the same amount of discipline and care as the last one.
   

Just take it a little easier on the police. Most of the time they're reasons they have to do the things they do like policies, man power, and resources. By no means am I making excuses for any wrong doing by any police officer but after 8 years of dealing with families, murders, assaults, domestic abuse, suicides, traffic fatalities, being there as a child takes their last breath, being shot at, yelled at, spit on, beat unconscious, and having to go home at the end of the day and be the husband my wife deserves. I think I've earned these two little chevrons I wear on my sleeve and I think me saying that before you feel any negativity towards an officer think for a second.

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I would like to believe there is a special place in Hell for people that abuse animals and children but....

 

As everyone else said, glad you're ok and be careful.  Too many people do carry knives and such.....I can't stand to see that either so I understand the reaction.  I'd have probably beaten the guy with a stick...

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This is where the mom in me comes out WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? if this ass is beating a dog, what do you think he would do to a kid... Next time,young lady, you yell, scream, call 911 but you DO NOT ingage some one like that.  Just be careful,  We all know how much you care, but safety first.  and Jess is right, stop talking to the police without a lawyer.  please, please take care of yourself.  We all do care about you

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Parab did not mean any disrespect to law enforcement just want to make sure she takes care of her rights.

I know in that situation their priority should've been the people and not the dog.

We are lucky people go out there an brave all of that every day to keep us safe.

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Davis police are good people and its a small town so they can respond really quickly.  They are there to help you (serve and protect).  In the future, please remember that and call them first.  Have the local police station number programed in your phone so they can be there ASAP.  If you call 911 on a cell it will take you to the CHP office (in Woodland, I think?)  In the meantime listen to Jess and get a lawyer or a public defender. 

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It's all been said by everyone that already posted here.  The only thing I will add is that I believe if I had come upon the same incident, I might have reacted exactly the same way you did.  Then, later I would have realized just how dangerous such actions could have been and learned a valuable lesson.  CALL 911 immediatly if you ever come upon a situation like this again.  The police are trained to handle these idiots that abuse animals.  I've always said that an animal abuser is just one ladder rung below a human abuser, so you're very lucky that he didn't turn on you and hurt you badly.  I hope everything works out in your favor. A tresspassing charge is a minor charge---dont worry about that one.  You might have to pay a fine, though....and STAY OFF THAT ROOFTOP.  Oh my gosh, you could have gotten pushed off by that idiot man.  (Dad instincts surfacing here, sorry)

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No offense taken jeshykai and I actually agree with what you said. I wasn't trying to take the side of the cop in this situation just trying to help people be aware of the thinking of a cop in that kind of situation. If the cop is in the wrong then by all means I hope she takes care of business.

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Yeah my parents had a very long serious talk with me and now that I'm at home and calm I'm definitely wondering what the hell I was thinking...actually, I know I just wasn't thinking at all! Nothing against the cops now, I realize they had to tend to me and the man first, he's decided not to press charges and the fine was minor but told me if I'm ever caught there again I'll be in trouble.Thanks everyone I promise I won't be that stupid again, I guess I just kind of lost my head for a second and was so ticked off about it I needed to rant, luckily I wasn't hurt except for a few bruises and he has to go to court for the abuse charges.

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Glad to hear it it.  Here is Davis' police number for emergencies.  It really is faster than dialing 911 on a cell.  Please program it into your phone: (530) 758-3600

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Thanks Harley I actually already put it in there after reading this forum, do you live near Davis then?

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I am a UC Davis Alum, I now live in San Jose.  While I was at school there (2002-2006) I worked closely with UCDPD and Davis Police to try to help relations with the students (college students and police don't always get along).  Shortly after the "riots" at one of the apartment complexes, I did a ride-along with Davis PD.  The guy kept stressing that they aren't there to make life harder, but to protect and help.  

I am glad you are safe and the consequences aren't too bad for you or the dog.  Did you find out if the dog is okay?  He will probably end up in the shelter in Woodland which is so sad.  Please let me know if you find out more. 

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I haven't heard anything but I was thinking about seeing if I could find something out after school today, he was really adorable and still young so hopefully if he does end up in the shelter he'll get adopted, I'll be sure to keep you posted.

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Thank god your okay. I'm glad that he's not pressing charges... And I probably would have charged at him the way you did, no matter the danger. Just remember that you likely saved a life, and for that, I applaud you. 

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The dog got adopted happily, so I can stop wondering now haha. Thanks Wolfgirl! I'm still kicking myself for being so stupid but I'm glad everything worked out :)

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Oh! I am so happy that all worked out and the dog now has a safe forever home!