Gentle Doberman?

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Curious as ever :) How did DG come about? There's no history as to why and when on the home page? I can see by looking back that the Alphawebby used to post but he/she dosnt appear to anymore. :) Are their dogs ever naughty? :) Its a well thought out website and easy even for me to manage. So i just wanted to say a big thanks anyway and I appreciate all the the answers that everybody gives me:) KiaOra Ria and Q 

Hey Q can now flush pheasants :)

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While I'm not real sure about all the reasons, one that has been stated in the past was a forum for sharing useful information in a forum that was open to all and was family friendly. I think they have succeeded in that.

While they may have had to post more often in the early months to get the forums off the ground, once they got a good group of people who where willing to share their information, then they could post less, as they did not want it to be their forum.

As a Member Moderator on the PC World forums, I can tell you that those who moderate forums are always keeping an eye on how things are going. For example when a member sees a spam post and clicks on the report to moderator link and puts SPAM in the reason, it doesn't take long for it to disappear. A forum always works best when the moderator has the pleasure of having a light hand.

The membership of this forum gives those moderators that luxury. We have a topic thread on PCW forums that we call Troll Central, it is the Article Discussion. Start a discussion about the relative merits of the computer operating systems and you wind up with a thread with several hundred posts arguing about minor points and not settling anything. Most of the topics are like this forum, help for those who need it. Our charge over there is similar to Alpha Admins goal - a user friendly, family friendly forum where people can go for help and assistance. Those areas are similar to here, where there is help and no one talks down to someone new.

In the case of this forum, it seems most are always concerned with the benefit of the dog, as it should be. Over there, it is that most are concerned with helping others learn and have a good outcome in using their personal computers. That's why I spend time on both. I also have been on other forums devoted to the same topics with totally different responses, and I didn't stay long.

And at the same time even those who have been around a while can learn new tricks, and change attitudes. I for one have learned more about NZ because of your presence, and what a beautiful place it is. You pictures of Q have also taught me that Dobes with long ears, still look like Dobes. I still prefer the cropped ears, but understand when that is not permitted or for one reason or another is just not possible (like rescued Dobes in the U.S.) and thank you for that.

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:)Thank you for that well answered post, its a shame there is nothing even remotely like GD over here I guess we are a little slow sometimes.  :) or maybe there just isn't a need for it with there only being a small amount of dobies in the country. I do recommend this site to every dobie owner i get to speak to though and i have learnt heaps since first joining the site. I am also aware of how important it is to try and change peoples attitudes towards the breed. Ive had some hostile looks off people lately and Q isn't doing anything apart from walking at my side. I'm not saying he is always an angel but we are working hard at it :)
Anyway we do have a connection to the US... The Maori believe that when you die your soul goes to the end of Cape Reinga and then flies off to Hawaii which they feel is the motherland from where they first came from:)
PS I didnt know that you could report the spam so thanks again for another tip :)

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Well, the report button is for any issue you have with a particular post. There was once a link in the PC World forum that went to a site that linked statistics on all web based forums. I do not know how accurate it was, but it showed that Gentle Doberman had approximately 2,500 members. With the lack of a real controversial thread and most if not all members being well behaved and interested in the betterment and support of the Dobe, the moderating load is fairly modest.

As for a local forum, the dogs are the same, the language is almost the same, you have the definite advantage of scenery and many of the products are similar. Besides, we get the advantage of learning about each others areas.

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:)All true :) but America also has some breathtaking vista's. Probably my most favourite place in the whole world is The Little Painted Desert. Photographs came out bad but i sill have all those wonderful colours in my head :P

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Hey, I've been meaning to answer this topic for a few days now. I've been a little busy and spending most of my Gentle Doberman time killing spam.

My wife and I were/are Doberman breeders for several years. My wife has been working with and breeding dogs since she was a kid, with her mom who has been breeding forever. Contrary to the popular assumption, and regardless of $1500 puppy price tags, breeding Dobermans is in no way a profitable venture - it's an expensive hobby. Of course that is assuming your breeding practices are responsible ones.

"Officially" we retired from breeding a couple years ago. However, Drayko disagreed and let Jewel out of her pen... which gave us a litter this past winter.

Since our official retirement, we shifted our breeder website into an informational website. Later I added a forum. The goal is to inform people about the Doberman breed. One thing I've found about dogs, and about people and dogs, is that the difference between having a wonderful canine family member - and an 80 pound menace, are just a few tinny little things. So hopefully we can keep educating people and prevent miss treatment and neglect of this fine animal.

There are way to many people getting a Doberman without being prepared. And there are way to many Dobermans, and dogs in general, suffering simply because people are lazy and stupid.

I'm very happy to see there are many people now members of the site spreading great information. This community is a good one and I intend to keep it that way. We've only had a few grossly misinformed people come by, and they were treated kindly but were firmly corrected. (gee, where did we learn that?) And the only other problems have been the regular spam bots that hit every even slightly popular forum. When you see those pharmaceutical and other random posts - those are programs that search the web and plaster garbage up in an effort to get traffic to some nefarious site through the links.

I'm planning a redesign of Gentle Doberman soon... I think it's been over a year that I've been intending to get started - soon... I keep getting distracted by work on other people's websites. Can't complain about that though.

AlphaAdmin is the account I use for administration and support. horseatingweeds is the account I use for answering and asking Doberman questions and otherwise being a normal member.

lol - and yes, our Dobermans are often naughty. Logan, our 9-month-old puppy started chewing a hole in the wall last night for some reason. Stormee likes to generally give me a hard time. She's a VERY vocal advocate for more frequent feeding times and potty trips. Jewel is almost maintenance free, but she tries to steal food from the other dogs and is very strict with the puppy. I can't complain about her strictness though. Logan earns twice over every spanking he gets, but I correct the behavior of course. And Drayko, he's the most obedient. Sometimes he gives me a little challenge here and there. But usually he just tries with all his might to earn some quick attention.

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I for one am very thankful, for this forum is how I found Princess. While many would consider a trip from S. Georgia to the upper mid west in the dead of winter as foolhardy, I went between the snow storms and watched the weather. Having lived in SW Virginia for 10 years, I got to know and understand how to drive on snow and ice and with a 4 wheel drive vehicle, I was prepared. In fact, I even had to stop and help a motorist in a rest area whose windshield washers had frozen up. (Taught them the trick of traveling with a plastic bottle of water inside the vehicle). Got to meet a very knowledgeable and dedicated breeder and a very handsome sire of the puppy.

When at 9 weeks her first night was on the road in a motel room (strange location) in a crate she was not familiar with (strange bed) the only time she cried was in the middle of the night when she needed to go out. She did not care for the ice and snow on the ground, but did her duty. She traveled to and from that spot inside my coat. (At 70 pounds she now has to walk on her own four legs). I promised her that I would take her away from all that nasty cold wet stuff and so far that promise has been kept. (Since it has be 20 years since we have had snow down her, I don't think I'm at risk of it being a good promise). That first night told me I had a winner.

Since then I have enjoyed the interplay of the various Doberman lovers and the various prospectives and all the stories. The one about Logan reminds me of my first litter. When they were about 8 weeks old they got out of their box and did not like being barricaded in the kitchen. They decided to escape into the dining room by going through the wall. I go home to discover a large hole eaten in one side of the wall, with the wallpaper destroyed and a hole over a foot wide and almost a foot high. There were the marks of sharp little puppy teeth on the inside of the sheetrock on the other side of the wall, but no hole. A friend came over and we removed the wall paper and the chair rail. Put on paneling to the middle of where the chair rail was and replaced the chair rail.

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:D Gosh thanks for that. Its nice you took the time to answer and as always I love to read everybody's stories. Hey! I also have a small hole in my wall. I'm lucky as a nurse that I dont have to do many night shifts.. probably two every 8 weeks or so. When Q was around 5 months old I had had a busy night and i was too tired to take him out for an hour so I thought that 15 minutes would be ok and that I could get up at midday and then take him for a good run. Result..Despite treats and toys  :PI woke up to a small hole in the wall which Ive left there as a reminder to myself :) A tired dog is a happy dog.

PS i really enjoyed reading the 'temperment FAQ' on the home section and then god help me i clicked on 'animal den' and found myself ordering an I LOVE MY DOBERMAN t shirt along with a couple of calenders and a mug. Thank goodness for my credit card. :)