fluid on the elbow??

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Has anyone's dobi developed fluid on the elbow?  What was done?  I believe mine isn't in pain, however he cut's running time ~ just lays down, enough is enough.  Same with fetching his ball, which he loves! 

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Do dobermans ever show pain???.. Mine is so stoic I can never tell when she's in distress and I've heard the same from many others.. Right now she's laying in the sunshine trying to help her poor hurt hip.. scrambled into the back of the truck and missed a step.. stumbled and floundered.. ( very UN diva like) so now she's favoring the back leg and letting nature take it's course with the sun shine and rest.

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Do dobermans ever show pain???.. Mine is so stoic I can never tell when she's in distress and I've heard the same from many others.. Right now she's laying in the sunshine trying to help her poor hurt hip.. scrambled into the back of the truck and missed a step.. stumbled and floundered.. ( very UN diva like) so now she's favoring the back leg and letting nature take it's course with the sun shine and rest.

Okay I hate to say this especially after your last email to me (which by the way I enjoyed your description of things gave me a little chuckle, I tend to be the same way so I understand where you are coming from) you will want to watch for a ACL injury with this. Most  Dobermans are very stoic and don't show the pain they are in. Is the pain actually in the hip or is it the knee area?

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Hi there and thank you for you quick response. Hard to tell where the actual pain is coming from. She's not limping. Has no problem sitting or squatting.. Right now she followed me upstairs to watch me write to you and that didn't seem to bother her at all. She is just favoring her right leg while standing. I felt all along the length and it tremebled a little. separated her pads and felt them.... she REALLY didn't like that... Could be she stepped on a rock on her run this morning..
How do I check for ACL injury? I don't see any swelling.
Glad you feel the same about your doberkids..

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flgirl, the only one who can really tell is a vet.

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flgirl: Lethargy can be a serious sign in a Doberman so if he suddenly is displaying less energy than usual it's a good time to visit the vet. Fluid buildup under the skin of the elbow happens with some dogs, and isn't serious. The vet will just need to drain is once or twice, maybe give an antibiotic.

But indeed - dogs don't show pain. Showing pain in nature is a liability. A neighboring pack might spot a struggling member and realize - now is the time to take some territory.

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Thank you ~ I do appreciate all your answers.  He's so unhappy, off to the vet tomorrow. Will let you know!

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Good luck!! Will be thinking about you!! Please let us know.. we ALL learn from your experiences!

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flgirl - looking back over you posts, Major has been very active up until recently. You then say he acts lethargic. This concerns me a bit. A 2 year old healthy Doberman should not be lethargic. You also posted and said that he weighs 100 pounds.

That is heavy for a Doberman and another worrying sign. Lady Kate when she reads this will know where I am heading. An overweight and lethargic Doberman is possibly caused by an under active thyroid. This can be confirmed by a blood test, but it is not one that the vet normally runs nor can the normal vet run it. They will have to draw the blood and send it off.

Discuss this with your vet. I am basing this on my red male Dobe aptly named Red (I was very brilliant that day). He grew fast and was active until he was a little over 18 months old and then he was as you described, over weight and lethargic. My vet would comment on his weight over the years as it went up and up. He weighed over 90 pounds at 8 months and 125 at one year. He peaked at 147 pounds a year and a half ago when he was 5 1/2 years old. He also at this point had a tumor removed from his tail that was malignant and the incision did not look good as it healed. But, it healed up and he has not had a recurrence. The vet was really chewing me out for feeding him too much and I pointed out to the vet that he was only eating 3 cups of kibble a day.

That is when the vet ran the extra lab test. It was very expensive ($110) for the thyroid test and CBC but when the results came back we knew what we were dealing with. Red was put on thyroid pills (2 small pills a day) and very shortly the change became apparent. He was more active and his weight was dropping - fast. In fact, I had to double his kibble ration to keep him from losing weight too fast. He is currently about 97 pounds, eating 10 cups a day and bounding around like a puppy (he will be 7 in March). He can now out run Princess (1 year old and 70 pounds) which he could not do 4 months ago.

Major may not be having this problem, but if you eliminate everything else, at least discuss it with your vet as a possibility.

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Yup absolutely correct, and I never would have known to check unless I heard about it from you Richard. HRM and I both thank you
Two months later, and ten pounds lighter, Sofia feels so much better. (She only has six more to go.)That and some anti inflammatory meds she gets for some possible arthritis. The vet checked her gait and sure enough, he spotted some favoring that I missed.
Another suggestion he made was to warm your kids up a little before they start their runs or play hard outside, especially if you live in cold weather.. Dobes usually bound outside and are full tilt boogie before you know it, causing muscle cramps and or strains.. We always do a bit of a massage on those great haunches and it seems to help a lot.. If you think about it, we always warm up with stretches and such before our runs or walks.. why not the doberkids?