Doberman Puppies for sale.

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  Doberman Puppies Available :D

I am expecting a litter any day now.  I breed my puppies for health, temperament and longevity.  Both parents are Vwd clear ( as the puppies will be)  there are champion blood lines in both the sire and dams lineages.  All puppies are AKC, will have tails and dew claws done, first series of shots and wormed. Ear cropping and shipping is available.  I will post when she whelps with colors, quantity and availability ( several puppies have been reserved)  All interested parties must fill out the puppy approval form (located on the web site) Once you are there you can read our philosophy, and check out our guaranteeHttp://www.avodobermans.com

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Do you have pictures of the parents? The chubby Mommy?

What's your general location?

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Pictures of both parents are on the web site.  I am located in western New york, North of Buffalo.

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avortman, you can put pictures in your posts like this:

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Okay here we go  :) I will try to post them Sire - Gunnar Walmond Reginhard-Vwd clear
[img=800x575]http://www.avodobermans.com/images/gunadfeb(1).JPG[/img]

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And here is Mom-Dam - Raisa Das Viel Liebte Prinzessin-Vwd clear

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Those are some good looking Dobermans!

What are their weights and temperaments like? How old is Gunnar? He looks young to me. He also looks like he has a lot of German Doberman. Is this Raisa's first litter? In that picture she looks like she hasn't had puppies yet.

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Yes Horse, Gunnar is just a young buck 14 months old, he is already 87 pounds and will fill out more.
actually his lineage is of the Altobello line his grand father was Dankan dax Altobello who has several european CH titles.  This is Raisa's first litter she is 2 years old, I do not believe in breeding them early. She weighs about 78 pounds. She has quite an extensive champion lineage from Russian Dobermans.  Their temperaments are excellent.  They have the doberman disposition of being watchful and alert;sounding an alarm when people come but immediately looking to me for guidance as to how to react.  Once I acknowledge the people they,are relaxed and receptive to them.  Very good with children I have young nieces and nephews.  I have chosen the european lines for the reasons discussed on the board.  The health testing,temperament and the fact most european dogs have to obtain a Schutzhund1 or IPO before they are bred.  Unfortunately in my area there are a lot of inferior dobermans being bred due to breeder ignorance
and the quality of the dogs are suspect to say the least.  I went to Indiana to get Raisa.  I bought Gunnar from a fellow breeder who takes breeding as serious as I do.

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I thought so, Gunnar has that puppy look still. If he's like my dogs, he's just now starting to mature out of that goof-ball stage. By the end of summer he should be 95-105 pound package of Doberman muscle.

Raisa reminds me of our Stormee. They both have a good puppy-carrying heavy build, unlike the somewhat poplar skinny build.

So this is the couple's first litter? That's great. The first litter like this is always interesting. Neither dog really knows what's going on but they follow their instincts and usually have a lot of questions.  ;)

:D I remember when Drayko and Stormee where young. We were planning to breed them. One day I opened the door and found them, with very guilty looking faces, tied together. I about had a heart attack and called for my wife. (Breeding is dangerous - especially for in inexperienced dogs) So, we stood out there - in clear view of the neighbors, who thankfully were not out doing yard work, and kept them still until they untied. Those ninnies.

All this makes me feel good though. For a while I didn't know any good breeders. The ones we did know either stopped breeding or changed their philosophy. These should be good puppies everyone!

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:) They Have arrived!!!!!!! March 7 -4 Black males,4 red females,2 Black females and 1 red male  :o 11 puppies.  Mom and puppies are doing fine along with a little help from me with bottle feeding.  More pictures later

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Look at those clean shiny coats! That's a sign of a good Mommy-dog. Look at those little pot-bellies. They must have just eaten. They'll be skinny and grunting their way to the milk bar in an hour or so.  ;D

They look great avortman! Keep us updated!

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;D Went to the vet yesterday to have a health check done on the pups and Mom, also to remove dew claws and dock tails everbody is fine.  My intensive bottle feeding paid off.  The runt of the litter is 1 pound...not bad for a 3 day old dobe pup :)

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Good work avortman.

No more tails  :( I always miss their tails - when they're puppies. Adult Dobermans with tails are dangerous - for them and for any lamp or cup or anything fragile.

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You know Horse, that is a revelation to me.  I have never owned a Doberman with out a cropped tail. Due to their energy and shenanigans they could certainly destroy a lot of things.....actually the happier they are  :) the worse it would be.   :'(

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That long skinny tail is also a liability to the Doberman. During rough play it can be damaged or broken. When the Doberman is doing its job of protecting its pack (family), like long floppy ears or a long coat, it can be grabbed by an attacker.

If you've ever watched dogs with long tails run, they have a different gate than a Doberman. Dobermans fun like horses, using those strong shoulders for stability and turning. Dogs like shepherds use their tail, whipping it around and cutting the air, which relieves the shoulders and gives their gate a deer-like appearance.

One other interesting point about the tail doc is the stress the newborn puppies are under from the procedure. Their young enough that it's not painful, nor does it even seem to bother them, but I read a study once about stressing puppies at this age. I can't find the article but here is another page that talks about a similar thing. It's about handling puppies to stimulate their brain and other systems which improves the dog later in life.  http://www.breedingbette

The stress of the tail doc might attribute to the Doberman's character later in life - leaving him better able to problem solve and deal with stress. A particularly interesting part of the above referenced article is that puppies stressed slightly at an early age proved to react to stress in a "graded" fashion while puppies who were not stressed react "all or nothing". This is one point I like about the Doberman. They have several levels of aggression. If they see someone down the street they don't know they get upset. If that person get in the yard they turn up the aggression another level. Neither of these levels of aggression though are even close to the level my wife has seen from Drayko, our male, when she has been approached by strangers (twice) and he has protected her. Even in these cases, however, he held back an even higher level of aggression because in neither case he felt the need to deliver a bite. Once he just put up a show until some police arrested the bad guy and the other time he just knocked him across the parking lot.

Had there not have been police in the park, or had their not been the escape rout into the car from the parking lot, Drayko still had his main weapon on safety. He's a good boy.

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I totally agree with you on the tail dock issue.  The stress is minimal and forgotten.  I was surprised how calm the puppies were minutes after it was over, by the time they got home from the vet it was forgotten.
Here is my perspective on ear cropping and the "do gooder" movement trying to stop it
First and foremost if you do not own a Doberman or breed them you should abstain.
Do you really think its any more painful to the dog than getting spayed or neutered?........think about it.
In essence it is a relatively minor 30 minute operation. The dog is under anesthesia and receives pain meds after. It is done for the reasons Horse stated and has been done since the inception of the breed.
Fortunately my vet still does ear crops and very skilled ones at that.  What I find discouraging is the current movement to ban cropping. What they do not realize ears will be cropped; If vets choose not to; it open the doors for these travelling "mid wives" that do it on the kitchen table with no medication.  Now that is cruel and inhumane.   Why don't the do gooders go after them- because they can not, so they ban the safe ethical method. It should be the right of the individual dog owner to make the choice.
Who are those people any way?

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Well, people complain to those who will listen - or those who have to listen.

I've heard good argument both ways. From my perspective - the ear crop is actually undoing some faulty work done by man to the breeds that makeup the Doberman. Those 'natural' floppy ear the Doberman is born with are not natural at all. Man bred those ears into hounds for a number of reasons. For the Doberman, these ears are a liability and make displays less apparent. The ear crop essentially returns the Doberman's ears to the natural state, able to come up and down and swivel toward sound. Besides improving hearing - a Doberman with cropped ears can display exactly what he's thinking, like a wolf or any dog with normal non-hound ears.

The elegant look is just a bonus for me. But - in reality - for most people the ear crop is purely cosmetic. This is the reason it's been banned in many places.

Let's hear more about your puppies. How are those little guys doing? I remember our litters at this age - so nice and cuddly. Soon they'll be little devils getting stronger and nastier by the minute. It's amazing how strong 10 10-pound puppies can be when they work together. Can't get a drink of water without stepping in it twice.

One thing nice about Doberman puppies is weaning. You just set the food down and don't let the big ones vacuum up too much. You wouldn't be able to guess they had never seen dog food before.

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The puppies are doing fantastic, Mom's milk kicked in and I no longer have to supplement every 2 hours ;D
She is an awesome Mother very patient, and is finally getting comfortable to "step outside the box" for a break.  All puppies are gaining weight.  I will post more pictures as soon as my battery charges.  There has been a lot of interest and it appears the majority of them will be heading to their pre approved homes.

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Oh yeah, she's a brand new mom. There's always that fear she won't be interested - but I've never actually heard of a Doberman not being a good mom. With Jewel, on her first litter (actually I think every litter) for the first few days we had to lure her out of her nest by taking a puppy.

Glad to hear her milk started up good now. If she's like our girls she'll start producing milk suddenly for any puppy-like introduction to the home. I imagine it's nice to sleep now too.

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Here are some pictures of the sexes and colors ,everbody is doing fine and over 1 lb3oz. 4 red girls

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4 black males  ;D 

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2 black females

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and last but certainly not least-red boy ;D

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i will have more puppy pictures in a day or so, they are getting big and thier eyes are starting to open, in the mean time here are some pictures of Super MOM--"hey there is life outside the box" 

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"Those darn kids give me a headache"     

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A few more puppy pics- the crew

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:)   4 red girls -everybody is getting big over 2 pounds

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4-black males

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the red male

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;)  And finally the black girls

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I can almost hear their grunting.

Mommy's doing a darn good job isn't she! Those are among the healthiest puppies I've seen. Do you guys like to smell their puppy breath?

Who is that in the pictures with the puppies? She makes them look unnaturally huge.  ;D

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Puppy breath........ especially Mom,s with the constant cleaning as you know is pretty gross.  That is my wife in the background ( all 105 pounds of her) your right horse, now that I look at it, they look like monster puppies.  :o  They are big, but not that big  the smallest is a tad over 2 Pounds, the biggest over 3 Pounds pretty impressive for 2 weeks.

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I can't believe you don't smell their puppy breath. Baby mammals produce a chemical, I forget its name, that gives their breath a particular smell - not a bad on. If you rub the edges of one of the puppy's mouth, it'll make him yawn and you can steel a sniff.  ;)

Why do I alway feel like a weirdo when I get to talking about puppies?

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;D  Now the fun part starts, the puppies are eating gruel on their own and growing in leaps and bounds they are starting to wrestle and develop personalities everbody is over 3 pounds 15 oz at just over 3 weeks.

The 4 black boys

The black girls

;) the red male -what a charmer!

:) And my Red girls

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there is 1 left here he is he is a beauty if interested contact me. A fine Black male-7weeks old

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The black male has a great new home, as do all the pups.  We have no more puppies available.

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Actually, there is a very good reason to leave the tails intact!  Our "Peaches" was the last born and only female in her litter - so doubly the runt.  By 6 weeks, she was larger than all her brothers, who were docked at 3 days.  She was better able to balance and walk - and therefor always 1st on momma.  We love our natural dobies and would be interested in finding a breeder that breeds for temperament and would let us keep tails.  Will watch the site for any replies.

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Most breeders are willing to keep a puppy undocked - assuming you leave a good deposit. The trouble is you don't know their personality until they get older than four or so weeks. Different puppies are better for different homes and all that. Finding a good breeder is the first and hardest step, most likely they will accommodate you.

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AVO dobermans; when will you be having your next litter? I have been looking for a really good dobby breeder for the last 2 years and can't seem to find one until i saw your website. Your dogs are Gorgeous! ;D I would like to buy one spring/summer 2009, if you have any litters coming around then?..i would love to purchase a puppy from you as well as discuss all of my questions with you.. so if you could pelase email me, either on italyzangel88@yahoo.com or this blog is fine too. :) Thanks!

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Hi Angelina,
Yes I am anticipating a Spring 2009 litter.
Visit my website http://www.avodobermans.com where you can find out more about my breeding philosophy and goals. There is a lot of good info there including a link to gentle doberman. Feel free to contact me with any questions you may have and we will proceed from there. thank you for your interest
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Okay sounds great!! I have many questions if you don't mind haha, but first let me tell you a little about me.. I am 17 yrs old, i live with my mom & brother. I have been obsessed/in love with dogs since i was basically born, especailly dobermans & i have been wanting my own since i could understand how to take care of a dog lol. We already have a chocolate lab & she's a big part of our family, we would love for her to have a playmate as well as be our bestfriend too. So fFor my highschool graduation in the summer i wanted to buy my own dog,(a dobby pup) and i planned to do so in the spring before i graduate in the summer..so that works out good that you have a litter coming spring 2009. I have read up on every breed there is all my life. I plan to dedicate my life to dogs when i'm older, so i am going to college next year to be a Vet. and later in life, a dog breeder too. :) I would love to purchase a puppy from you and i hope you'll allow me to do so. Comment back please.. Thanks! ;D

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I have really enjoyed reading this discussion. I have had at least one almost continually from the summer of 1982. Windy was my first, and I could not believe how different she was from all that I thought about Dobes previously. I then immersed myself in finding out all that I could and found out how truly unique they are. I lost her to cancer at the age of 7, but I still had her mate a Red Male whom I name Hans Tigre Von Samson. When I brought him home he did not know what to think of the then two year old Windy. She reached down to sniff of him and he jumped up and bit her on the neck. I immediately called him Tiger, which became the German Tigre. His sire was a red and the sole survivor of his litter (late life first litter and the litter contracted parvo at the vet's) and after surviving Parvo they called him Samson.

I was fortunate to have Hansy (as I called him) for almost 12 years. I now live in S. Georgia and in '95 I was travelling a lot and boarded him at a kennel run by a couple who became friends of mine (She showed Rottweilers at the time and was a Judge). There had been some local furor over vicious dog breeds so she called the paper out to discuss the breeds. Her husband brought out Beau their Ch Rotte, Hansy, and a male Pit Bull they were boarding and introduced the reporter to the dogs. There was a very good article on the fact that it is not the breed but the owners that cause the problems and a picture of the three dogs. Sandy told me what she had done and asked if it was allright, and I said of course. In this way he helped dispel some of the misinformation.

I gave my sister, who lived in Houston, one of their offspring, a female name Gretyl. She never had any of the problems with burglars in the neighborhood that some others did. In fact she was home one day and a fellow pulled up out front, got out, left the car door open and the engine running. When he got no response at the door, sis was not about to open it, he jumped over the side fence (gate was locked) and then sis heard the commotion, he came over faster, ran to the car and burned rubber leaving. When she discussed it with her neighbor, she said that Gretyl's spooky yellow eyes probably did him in.

Since Gretyl was a recessive black, she had her daddy's yellow eyes (from the reds). I notice that the Avortman Dobe's are apparently also recessive black since that is the only way you can have red puppies with two black parents. All of Hans and Windy's  pups were black as she was a dominant black. I do have a weakness for reds, and my current Dobe, is a over sized Red, he weighs over 130lbs and stands as tall as a Great Dane. I will not breed him, even though he has all the Dobe charastics, and is a big lovable lunk, he is just too large.

I am very pleased that there are some true breeders out there for those of us who want a true Dobe for a companion, but are not of the Dog Show crowd, although they do keep the breed pure.

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Hey Avortman, It looks like in the pictures of Raisa & Gunnar they have collars for in-ground fencing. If they do how is that working out?  Beautiful dobbies

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Hello
It works very well, none of the dogs have ever left the property and the collars are set on low.  If you train your dogs as to where the boundaries are an under ground fence works very well ;)

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Thanks alot we purchased a fence but its been too cold to install it.