Update on the twins* sibling rivalry

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Well with a heavy heart I have to say that I am seeing everything that is described on the pages that I was suggested to read over.  I have been keeping everything, including sleeping seperate but when playtime comes along teh raivalry is in full effect.  I also now understand where part of the "puppy acne" is comming from, its not acne at all.  These poor girls are fighting fierce and leaving marks so some of it is healing wounds.  The change in food went very smooth and their coats deffinately look better along with some evening out of spots that needed cleaning. 

I know that finding another home is what will be best for one of the girls  I wont send either one back where they came from but I will be looking for another potential home. In the meantime, please keep up with teh adviuce so I can get these two on teh best terms we can during teh waiting period because I will be picky about where they go from here. I want this to be the last move she makes.

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I'm so sorry that you're going to be splitting up the girls, but it's sounding like it's the absolute best thing for all involved.

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Aw, that sucks, but at least there won't be any rivalry once they're split up and it really does sound like the best decision, best of luck to you!

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Great decision!!  I would recommend not re-homing yourself, talk to a local rescue.  They will be able to screen homes, and will be able to find a great home for your pup.

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Livelaughlove, that is one of the most unselfish acts I have ever heard of.  You're doing what's best for the pups with little or no regard to what YOU wish it would turn out to be.  My sister in law kept sibling males when her female dobe had pups, and they fought like tigers with each other.  When they got older, the fighting was less often but they made up for it with fierceness. Both males have battle scars from each other, and my brother in law got caught in the middle of a dog fight a couple of times, and he even has scars from their fighting. She still has them, they are both neutered now, and they are 5 years old , and she STILL has to keep them separated or keep a very close eye on them if they are in the same room together.  She said "never again!"

Hope you find the perfect family for one of those sweet girls.

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Well said Paul..

It is indeed so hard to give the girls up.. I don't know how foster families do it.. One has to be totally unselfish and have such a caring heart to do what's best for these kids..

Bless you for this difficult decision. What started out as what seemed the best scenario for the pups might have been in vain. I think Kevin has a good idea about a Doberman Rescue in your area.. they are equipped for this very special breed.

Please keep us u[dated.

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Sorry to hear that LLL :( Find a great home for them okay? Tell the new owners to join us here and keep us updated! :D

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Are you re-homing one or both of the girls? 

I agree, completely with everyone else, you are making a wonderful choice for the girls, and again I agree about reaching out to a local rescue that will do the screening of families for you.

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Thank you for your encouraging thoughts everyone.. This is deffinately a hard decision and the only thing that will get me through, is knowing that it is what is best for them both.  My husband and I talked long and hard about this and decided to find a new home for Star.  She seems to be the aggressor in teh situation and has even began trying to push her luck with Mopar, Im afraid it may end badly if we try to keep her here.  Sky does well with both Bella and Mopar and follows into the schedules and routines easily.  I believe that Star will blossom in teh right environment and that once left alone, Sky will have a chance to build her own identity. 

I am making phone calls today about beginning teh search to find her a new home.  I am starting with our vet, as she has a rescue Dobe and may be interested or know someone who would be a great fit for Star.  Then again, my mom is flying in next week and said she may be willing to take her back to Florida with her but she is not sure yet.  I am looking for what will be best for everyone and will be also contacting a local rescue.  Im not to worried about teh money Im losing but more the ability to find a good home for her.

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I can imagine what a hard decision that must have been for you!  But it does sound like the right one to make.  You can have peace of mind knowing that both girls will be better and happier for it.  Best of luck finding a home for Star! 

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I know it's hard, but you should be proud of yourself.  You're making the right decision, and I can't imagine how hard it must be.

That relates to Kate's post, and it's the only reason why I don't foster...  I would have a hundred million animals that I wouldn't be able to give up lol. 

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I can't really say anything that hasn't been said -- but I can say that left unchecked, some serious things could happen and I'm very thankful you are taking care of it in this wonderful way.  At the hospital last night, a woman brought in a maltese male that had been attacked by his brother.  We ended up having to euthanize him because the owners couldn't pay the 2,000 dollars it would take to save his life. 

You are making sure these babies never have to experience a hardship because they can't get along.  If Star shows an inclincation to be a solo dog, just make sure you explain to whomever you give her to that they need to work on dog-on-dog interactions and watch her aggression when she's playing.  She may never be a candidate for a dog park, but it is not saying she couldn't be a great dog for someone.

Best of luck to you.  I know how fostering and re-homing goes and if you need any questions answered, just PM if I lose the thread. 

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LiveLaugh~ I support you in this decision. You probably feel relief in making it. You have a direction and goal to find the home for Star that will be a better situation for all. Especially Sky! Sounds like she is finding her own niche within the family pack. It takes a lot of character and strength to review a choice made, rethink and resolve to correct. If it's in everyone's best interest, it's right!
I wish you the Best in finding the resources to assist you in rehoming Miss Sky :)

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Kevin, I completely agree.. If I was to foster I couldnt let them go. 

I really should have only gotten one or the other to begin with, but I had the extra funds and I couldnt walk away leaving either one.  I did get an email letting me know their paperwork is in and as soon as she (the breeder) gets back on Monday from vacation she is dropping it in the mail to me.  This is hard, the kids are mad because they want to keep both.  My husband is supporting me although he is clearly sad because he has grown attatched to them both. I told him if it wasnt for him working, if i had an extra set of hands, it might have been accomplishable. 

On the upside, I may have a solution in the works, but I wont place a name out until we see if its a workable situation or not.

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Aww sorry hunny but it is probably for the best.

Kudos to you for making a selfless decision for the girls

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I'm new to this site/forum.  I'm out here because of the sibling rivalry reference.  Let me first say I'm sorry you have to give up one of your pups.  We just added Lance and Lola to our family.  They are our fourth and fifth dobermans (we've had this breed as kids since 1979 along with some cats).  We've never had two together (although we've had them with the cats).  All of a sudden at week 11, (we are now at week 13 and have had them since week 6), they are really playing hard and three or four times it has escalated into very aggressive play.  We are now only allowing them supervised play time.  We have to throw in a ton of "pinching their necks" and our commands of Break, NO, NO biting, and throwing the toys in the mix.  I'm not comfortable leaving them alone.  I don't seem to be able to find the prior discussion on this topic.  I'm very interested in this topic and to learn at what age your experience began, etc.  I'm also not sure if I should make a new post.  I'm not much of a forum writer, so bear with me.  Thanks.

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Lance and Lola.. welcome to the forum.. feel free to post anywhere you want to.. we'll catch you!

In time, you'll learn the best way for you to navigate through the forum and find what you need.

The best way I learned is to take the time and read everything I could.. got to know the members and their Dobermans and have made life long friends along the way.. this is an amazing place.

Also, if there's a particular topic you have in mind.. just hit the search button and type in what you're looking for..

If you start a thread and are curious as to the responses, just hit: 

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on the bottom of your post.. ( it has little eyeballs showing and the answers will show up on your Email address..)

If you wish to contact someone via email and have a private discussion.. just pop your cursor on that adorable little envelope on their posts.. and that will take you directly to them.

Good luck to you and your litter mates.. I hope things ease up for you

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Hello Lance and Lola!  Dober kisses from the Craiglow Clan of Doberkids..

I have only had the girls a few weeks now and its a steady problem.. If you check out the sites mentioned above you will get some real insight into raising teh siblings but it sounds like your right on track with keeping them apart.  I have gone one step further and talked to a K9 officer who has been dealing with dogs for a very long time.  The other issue that he said to watch for is IF we kept them together, eventually they would challenge Bella for pack leadership and very possible severelly injure her.  I have been keeping a spray bottle of water handy at all times, it makes them stop fighting but then they think its play in the water time, so its more of a distraction.  Seperately they are wonderful babies with great personalities but together they fight all day if they have the chance (unless they are sleeping).  The longer they both are here the harder it gets but I am determined to find a descent home for Star.

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Im sorry : (

we are kinda going through the same thing. We are looking for a home for our bunny because Athena cant get along with him and we cant let him out of his cage.  i think its harder for you because you had to choose which one to keep. For me that decision was easier since bunnies dont really have a personality (even thought i REALLY love my bunny) its not fair to him to not get the attention he deserves because of Athena. Good luck with this we wish you the best!

Cammie & Athena

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I have half siblings male/female who are about a month apart.  We did not get them at the same time obviously and while they do play hard it has never escalated to anything terrible. I feel so badly for you guys as I wouldn't know what to do if I had to make a decision to rehome one of them. We have been lucky that they never really have had an issue with that.  Good luck to you both and I hope you find a good solution.

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Cisco9510 - I'm hoping my pups are just playing really hard. No one squeals, but I always break them apart because it just seems too rough. It seems like they wouldn't stop if I didn't make them. I'm hoping they grow out of this phase fast. They are getting good on the soft bite with me and that is encouraging.
Thanks to the welcome and I look forward to sharing with you all.

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Love your coke can photos ;)

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Thanks.  It wasn't my idea.  I can't take the credit.  The breeder took them.  We continued them until 12 weeks, when it just didn't make sense anymore.  We figured we needed a Hummer or something larger by then.  HA!  I want to post the ones for Lance and the 7-12 week photos too, but it is a bit time consuming.

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Hummer (Haha!) would be good!