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First let me say I have been stuck in the house for almost 8 days - today being the first day out! Free at last! So I apologize for all the post, all the pics, I have been bored out of my mind. Also, I want to thank this forum for replacing my habit of logging on to Facebook. Anyway - today we ventured out to PetSmart we were running out of dog food and wanted to get out. Bella went with us.. Her 2nd trip into PetSmart. The first time she was only a puppy. We were bringing her home for the first time, and had to stop to pick something up. So today was the first day she actually walked around. She is nicely walking through the parking lot on her leash, no problem. We get to the double doors that automatically open - bam they open.. every body looks up from inside the store (extremely crowded I might ad) and all of the sudden Bella puts on the brakes! Her big Dobey paws pushing into the floor - like I don't want to go in there! Finally after reassuring her it's okay she walks -  then she gets excited b/c people are around (she just loves people she is a Social Diva) and what happens next.. she get so excited She Pees everywhere.. ahhh how embarrassing. I told hubby I will take care of it, he takes Bella and high tales it to another Isle. lol I go get paper towels, and start to clean up as kids walk by & laugh  and say "ooooh some dog had an accident"  Anyway, after catching up with hubby & Bella we look around, found her a new bed (she has outgrown her other) It's a nice bed - picked up a sweater that she will probably only be able to wear for maybe 3 days b/c it's not big enough, Dog Food, and a toy. As we are walking around though.. I start smelling it!  Her Gas! It's bad ~ so she was letting them go during the shopping trip. I was getting so anxious and worried that she was going to poop in the store!! Her poop is really bad the smell will linger forever!!  Side note - Yes we walked her prior to going in, stood outside in the grass for like 15-20 minutes to make sure she was good before walking into the store. Thank Goodness nothing happened. Anyway, for the most part she did very well considering It's a new Environment. She even picked out her own toy. 

So below are some recent pics... 

Bella & Lexi _ Her little buddy. ( I never leave Bella alone with our smaller dogs ~ She could accidently hurt them)

My family - Bella (Dobie) - Gizmo (red sweater) - Lexie

Bella has a toy pad - we keep all her toys on it - She even has the duty of cleaning up her toys and placing them back on the bad when it's clean up time. Sometimes she will even take them to her toy pad on her own. It makes me so proud!

 

Here she is picking out one of her toys to play with. She does this with much thought, it's funny how she looks through all of them, then picks one out. She acts like it's the most important decision ever. Sometimes it will take a full minute for her to decide.

 

Here she is in her new bed. I did not know it was an Orthopedic bed until we got home - too funny. This is what her ears look like when she is curious or inquisitive. We are going to repost them next week

 

Bella loves her new sweater & new bed!

 

 

Bella & I would love to see pics of her Internet friends & family!!

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BTW -The pic of Bella with her head buried in the bed is not what her ears typically look like  lol

Below is what Bellas ears normaly look like running, walking, etc.

 

 

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Isn't she beautiful!!!  Your story is so funny! (Fancy loves loves loves Petsmart).  Have you ever noticed the clean up stations throughout the store?  LOL, I think they expect it.  As for the pooting thing, walk quickly, do not stop, to the next aisle!  I love her red sweater.

I wish I had a memory foam bed,  I used to several years ago, but a dog I had shredded it (just a hint). 

How old is she now? She looks like she's a big girl so far.  I started Fancy on putting her toys away, I should revisit that.  If it's not her getting them out it's her buddy, can't win for losing lol.  I love to watch the dogs think about stuff, it's too cool.  Thanks for posting!

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Okay this is the last pic of the night - I promise... I just walked in the bedroom and she is knocked out in her new foam bed and loving it. She is so used to the camera that it does not phase her anymore.

Shes almost 4 months now ~ and yes they do have those stations at Petsmart - which I did not notice until after I asked for the paper towels. I love how they even have the stand up signs that you place out after cleaning saying it's wet to be careful. Thank goodness for the hand sanitizer as well. 

As far as the bed - that might be the reason it was on sale haha She did chew on it for a minute before I moved it in her area. When I replaced her old bed with the new one, the expression on her face looked as if she understood oh.. thats my new bed. We will see how long the foam bed lasts.

The way dobermans think through things, and process it, is just amazing. Thats what I loved about our last one. It is so much fun watching them think through things, or try to figure stuff out.

I am going to check out your pics of Fancy & Buster have not had a look at your gallery yet!  

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Bellas getting so big! And those ears are marvelous ^.^

Ginger has chosen her own spot on the couch, so when she is ready for a snooze she jumps up then "transforms" herself into a small dog. My fiance calls her a Decepticon because there is no way she should be able to compartmentalize herself like that. lol

She gets herself in the strangest positions...

she almost folds her paws in half lol

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Ginger is so flexable! How cute is that pic! I love that and the funny thing is how Ginger has her back legs pulled up .. Bella stretches out like a wild woman! Does she always pull her back legs up in that position when she sleeps? That is awesome..  He nickname shoud be "Houdini"  lol :O)

Happy Dance - Buster & Fancy are so cute. Would I be correct If I said "Buster probably runs the house?" lol  I love Fancy's floppy ears ~ I debated back & forth if I should leave Bellas natural.. The Floppy just makes them so sweet & innocent looking. But once going through the mouthing stage - and her being a devil dog.. I just knew those floppy ears would not fool anybody lol So her wild side made the final decision for me.

 

 

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I love this thread.  It's great to be able to see who we are talking to and our dogs that we talk about.  I love the photos of Bella in her sweater and her lavish bed...so cute.  Ginger just melts my heart with the way she covers her face when she sleeps....awwwww 

 

So here's Ziva and her two sisters, Lucy (the rat terrier that thinks she is attached to Ziva's butt) and Lilly, who gives the camera the evil eye.  Ziva has had a camera in her face ever since the day I brought her home, and she is a big ham, and will actually stop what she's doing to pose. LOL

 

Ziva and Bo, my 7 lb rattie.  They are the two that always get to go in the van, because they have the best traveling manners.  Lilly is an escape artist whenever the doors are opening, and Lucy barks at everything, but Ziva and Bo are great traveling companions....now if I could just teach them to clean their nose prints off the windshield, it would be so great.

 

....and this is me and my sweet baby Z

I really hate to tell you this on this post. I love your story of Bella and all the wonderful pictures. It warms my heart to see such love and care for your dog, so please do not get me wrong or take this the wrong way I'm only trying to help you, but you have got to get those ears posted NOW. You put her through all the pain and suffering of the surgery and you are running the risk of those ears laying across the top of her head and never standing at all. You can see the progression and it is getting worse. She deserves to have them stand, if you need help please call or email me. If you would like an idea of what they will look like if you continue to not post them I can point you to a great example. Please do not wait until next week to post they have been down a long time and the pockets are getting worse.

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Oh I love your family! Thats so cute how Lucy is laying on Zivas butt ~ Instant mobile pillow - I love that! Bella tries to lay her head on lexies butt (our shitzue) though shes not having any of that!

The one in the Van it looks as if they are giving kisses ~ Thats a great pic. Lilly is just adorable with the "Don't bother me look expression" :O)

and of course It's pretty obvious that Zivas a " Daddys Girl"  

Its amazing how advanced things are now. Okay I am somewhat telling my age but I do remember when we had to drop film rolls off to get developed before seeing photos. Now we can instantly post them on the internet. It's great to meet others with same interest and see there familys. Keep the pics coming I just love seeing all our cyber friends.. 

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RND -I am not offended. Like I said before I initially planned on taking her to have them posted last Monday ~ we had a really bad snow storm / Ice here and I have not been able to leave the house. Along with every one else in the area.  I have mentioned this in just about all of my posts

The vets office has not been open ~ actually the only places that were open were convient stores & waffle houses. Until today.  Today being Saturday ~ the vets office will be open Monday and they will retape her ears then.

I appreciate your offer to help. Could I have purchased tape and posted them today sure. But I did not want to tape her ears, with the fact that I don't know how to tape them properly, and then have them remove it in less than 2 days.

Obviously, I did not have her ears cropped to flop. Nor do I think I have neglected her in anyway. I would agree that they deserve to stand but implying that I am intentionally doing this to her is somewhat insulting. I do understand writing on a forum can come across many different ways, When you wrote "You put her through all the pain and suffering of the surgery and you are running the risk of those ears laying across the top of her head and never standing at all. You can see the progression and it is getting worse. She deserves to have them stand" 

Reading that implied I am purposely doing this, or lack of care.

 If you look back at any of my post / pics you can see the attention and affection that Bella receives from her family.  She is well cared for ~ and honestly when her ears are posted - if it doesn't take or for some reason they do not stand up,  I will still love her like I love her now, if not more.  When I brought Bella into our home it was not for show purposes. When we had her ears done it was b/c we liked the look of it.  She could have 3 legs, 1 floppy ear, and be deaf. I would love her the same. 

Like I said I really appreciate the offer, and after responding maybe I am a little offended. Feel free to post the pic of the dog whos ears did not take or have air pockets. I think it would be informative for others as well as myself. I strongly believe sharing knowledge is empowering for everyone. I value and agree with you on the opinion " If your going to crop a dogs ears then you should be able to continue the care it will require" Which I have had every intention of doing.

I can not control the weather - Nor can I control her ears standing.. but what I can do is love her unconditonally.

While your posting the pic of the air pockets on this thread,  could you please post some light hearted pics of your dogs to keep it just that "Light Hearted" 

Slightly offended but now that I have responded I am over it. So lets get back to posting pics of all those lovely family members on this forum.

   

I'm not accusing  you of neglecting her at all. It is that you lack the knowledge of how to fix it and your vet will most likely not know either. That is why I have offered to help. You will probably go to your vets and they wont know what you are talking about they may even go as far as saying that her ears are standing just fine. I've said on many different ear questions that vets are not taught this in vet school it is something that they learn afterwards. So most of them lack the solid training of the how to do it, how to wrap it afterwards and how to fix problems that arise.

So even if you were to try and wrap them which everyone learns how to do, it would be better than to leave them down for as long as they have been. 

Yes it is obvious that you love her unconditionally no arguments. And yes you will love her just the same as the rest of us do no matter what she or any of them look like, 3 legged floppy eared or long tailed. It doesn't matter if it is for "show purposes" or not. Anyone that puts a dog through surgery for ear cropping should follow through. Yes you have had a snow storm and ice  You cant control the snow but you are in control of the ears standing or laying across her head. Her ears are not what they could be SHOW or PLAIN PET. Show has nothing to do with it, I have the experience to help you and I offered several times plain and simple. That is all. I will not post anymore about this and I TRULY REGRET responding whatsoever.

Texts are easily taken the wrong way and as I tried to explain that is not the way I meant it. I privately emailed you apologized and tried to explain I even tried to delete my post and was unable to. I'm responding publicly once and for all.

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Is it just me am I being super sensitive tonight. If I am and others think that I am I will humbly apologize for my response. I would love others input? I accept your apology. yes I was offended. yes you offered to help me & I appreciated that and still do. I don't exactly know how you could help me other than sharing how I should post the ears. Unless you were going to have me find something around the house to use in replace of the proper products such as tape & so forth.  I just dont think there was anything I was able to do without having the proper materials.  

 but just for a minute try to understand my side

I COULD NOT TAKE HER TO THE VET - THEY WERE CLOSED- I DON'T HAVE TAPE IN THE HOUSE - NOR DO I HAVE THOSE POSTS - I Guess I could have used a tampon and ducktape.. or whatever you would have suggested ..   

Yes I could have purchased some today - but on Monday she will have them taped. I am sure not to your standards (and no I am not being a smart as* )   When I gave the example of loving her no matter what, it was not to say "that I will not be having her ears taped"  It meant just what I typed no hidden message. I will continue to love her and many people here on this forum post & post and continue to post their loved ones ears, and unfortunatly the ears may not stand. Thats just the fact. Some ears twirls, some ears flop, some flip out, and some stand gracefully. Thats a chance we all take.

I don't understand how you think I could not be offended somewhat. I am not angry ~ I hate that what started out as a geniune concern could turn into a somewhat heated discussion.

I just felt the way the post read was in a manner that could have been said in a nicer way. Just like your latest post -   "your not accusing me of neglect just lack of knowledge - as well as going as far as to state that more than likely my vet will not have the knowledge either" 

I have not read my email yet I will check that. Thank you for taking the time to send it. You said you tried to delete your original post on this thread - which tells me you felt you may have come across a little harsh.

I hate that it has come to this.  I pray & Hope that I will be able to correct Bellas ears, I pray that the vet will post them properly. If they don't stand up to perfection it is okay with me.  Take a look at my last Dobe RIP - Thor . He had one floppy ear. I had nothing to do with his ear process bc I got him at a later age. I loved that Dog more than anything, and I still cry thinking about not having him around. I also loved his adorable character of having a floppy ear! It was so darn cute - see for yourself.  Some will think it's cute others will be appalled but he was one hell of a dog who had much confidence and brought alot of love into our home.

    

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I have wanted to bring this to your attention as well. I agree with Rnd that Bella deserves the attention to her ears. She is a very nice dog and will give many times over what you give to her. It has nothing to do with the quality of your dog or your ability to love her. It's more of an ethical issue. Perhaps you are afraid of harming the ears by taping incorrectly. I don't know if there could be another reason. Don't let fear prevent you from giving it your best shot. Taking no action is not the solution. For the next cropping, should you decide to crop again, have the supplies you will need on hand and buy at least twice as much tape as you think you will need:) Do your homework. Research. And don't depend on the vet, breeder or anyone else to see the job finished. You have resources here and a number of people who would be willing to support and guide you through the process. Perhaps you were misled in thinking this would be over in two weeks, but that doesn't really have any revalance now.
Rnd advised me on a pocket issue and Leo's ears are fine now. She has lots of experience and is only wanting to assist you and Bella.

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This is exactly the reason that I didn't have Fancy's ears done.."all the pain and suffering of the surgery",  the only vet that did this was very far away from me and charged over $1000 to do it.  I love the look of cropped ears, but I'm not showing my girl, and as far as I'm concerned it's plastic surgery.  The vet I worked for for many many years refused to crop, and he loved dobermans.  We had a few doberman breeders that came to see him for any other issues because he was a brilliant vet.  Rnd, I appreciate your knowlegde, but please please get off your soap box. I truly respect your knowledge of the breed, and your willing to help, but I think you're a little harsh.  Give her a break.  I got an amazing puppy, no matter who bred her parents.  We all do the best we can for our babies.

She will read through the posts and see what she needs to do.

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BTW Rhon, yes, Buster "thinks" he rules the roost.  We just pretend with him LOL.  Ziva's dad,  what an awsome picture of you two.  Happy happy is what I see!

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Rhonda - if you have paper towels and tape, they can be used to make a temporary post. In fact, paper towels are an important part of my old school posting technique, that I learned 25 years ago. In my case, there are three items, shish-ka-bob skewers, paper towels and adhesive tape.

Thor probably got a crease as Red did and once that happens, if you don't get it out right away, it won't come out. I didn't and he has had an ear folded down ever since. No, it doesn't affect the way I feel about him or others, who may thing it's a battle wound, but it not, it's a distraction on the part of his owner at that time almost 8 years ago.

One important item is to stretch the ear when posting, and some vets don't. She recently posted a ling to an excellent posting article. I will see if I can find it. In the meantime, if you have some TP tubes laying about cut one lengthwise and roll it up about the size of a pencil and tape it so it won't unroll. Then wrap it with a 1/2 of a paper towell and then tape the ear around it in the middle to upper area. You don't need to worry about the base, because it's the middle of the ear giving problems.

Look at some of RND's recent photos of Romeo. His one ear is giver her fits, and she uses a short post in the middle to strengthen that area of the ear.

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Hey Rhonda --

I think you are taking it the wrong way, sort of how I took things when I shared my story about Miles.  After rereading some of the posts that upset me (I was upset about EVERYTHING that day) I realized that no one was really trying to put me down or Steve down or my house or anything.  I think when you reread over this thread you will see the same.  All I have read is people wanting the best experience for you, and part of that is their effort to give you the confidence to handle this on your own.  Many people start off with using the vet to help post, but as this is a process that can take months and months (and months for us here in CA!) you might just want to get confident and do it yourself to save on the driving and office visits.

I know you didn't want this thread to go this way, so why don't we start another one and we'll start fresh.  But I hope when you look back at this you will see that it all came from a place of wanting to help you!

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Buddy at the park yesterday in he snow!

 

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Nupe.. what a stunning picture he makes.. Buddy is a dashing doberdude.. Good job with him and I admire anyone who gets out in that wet cold stuff.

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Hello Rhondab, just got to say that I am so jealous that you can give Bella cuddly toys and a comfortable bed. Freddie shreds everything he gets his big paws on. How did you get such a well behaved dobie?? Sorry got to go and strangle the cat..

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Decided to let the cat out instead. He cries to annoy Freddie. Forgot to say that to the best of my knowledge my mad Freddie never thinks he just reacts. When I introduce him to people I always say "Dobermanns are very intelligent but Freddie, he is different."

Oh and by the way Freddie gives of the most noxious odour when he is nervous of a situation.

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Hellloooo Ladies....

 

XOXO The Kid

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Oh what a sweet sweet face!! Cisco looks like a happy kid! Thanks for posting!

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Thanks Kate... He is a pretty happy dude!

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We are picking up Raven Tonight!  She is now 14 weeks old- The pics under cool name thread were from a couple of weeks ago when she came back to breeder.

So here is the newest Diva-IN-Training (her ears are done this was right before they posted them)

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What a gorgeous GIRL!!! :D  So excited for you guys!!

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Thanks - the weather may hinder pick up tonight :( 

If not they may just bring her to the house for us tomorrow or friday...

I hate winter... I want to get my hands on the little baby girl (well not so little- 14 weeks!)

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Patience Grasshopper...

oh oh oh. let's go get her now!!

I cannot WAIT to see that baby girl in your arms~ smooching your cheek.. snuffling your hair, biting your feet, and your fingers, eating the carpet, tinkling on the floor, chewing her way out of her crate.. hmmmmm.. maybe we can wait til tomorrow.

Seriously.. I'm so thrilled for you Mandy.. She looks to be an absolutely gorgeous little girl. Cisco has a sister!

Brilliant!

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Thanks Kate- I will post pics as soon as we get her!!!! We may just trudge thru the dang snow to get her! we are waiting to hear back from Lisa and I am chomping at the bit!

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New pic of Fancy at 23 weeks, sorry a little blurry

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Ziva and my little 13-lb rat terrier, Lucy.  They are best friends, sleep next to each other, chase each other around, and sometimes even eat out of the same food bowl at the same time.  I'm so glad that Ziva has the personality she does and gets along well with the "littles".

 

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OH, that's priceless.  I have one to of my big and littles, it's dark but I didn't want to disturb them so it's from my cell phone.  They really do love each other!!!  LOL

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Awww all the small pups are making me want another Doberman puppy (even though Laith is only 6 months)!!!!!! 

Here is Laith with his early Valentines Present. Oh well.

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Rhonda and Bella????? Where are you??? We miss you Rhonda and the lil Diva in Training!!!

Hope all is ok!!!!

Come back!!!!

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Was thinking the same thing Mandy...

 

And LAITH!! You naughty boy...

I'm so lucky Steve loves his "babies" I finally had to toss his #1 toy this morning.  The poor duck was footless, bill-less, and stitched up so many ways.  He finally chomped it to death.  RIP Duckie: your garbage funeral was watched in horror by your beloved owner, Steve.

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LMAO at visions of Steve's horror~~

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All these pics are PRECIOUS!!! I hope my littles accept Sophie, and she loves them too!