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My hubby and I adopted a 14 week Doberman mix puppy two weeks ago.  We adopted her from a shelter and we named her 'Lilo' (although at times 'Stitch' seems to be more appropriate a name for her.) Lilo arrived at the adoption shelter the day we brought her home. Prior to that she had been at an intake facility after she was rescued. When she was initially found she was malnourished and full of internal parasites.  Once her nutrition was under control and the parasites were taken care of she got an infection in her eye. The shelter made three attempts to treat her eye before finally deciding to remove it and suture the lids closed. I saw Lilo on the website and asked my husband about her. She was photographed with a kitten and we have two cats so I saw this as a plus! Once my husband saw that she only had one eye and said "no way". When we walked into the shelter he saw her immediately and it was love at first site...well at least with us it was...with the cats it is a whole different story.

Lilo i doesn't seem to notice she only has one eye. She is a bit clumsy at times and has difficulty seeing in the dark. Other than that she is doing great with potty training and crate training. She is very well behaved most of the time, She loves to cuddle and put her head on your shoulder.  Lately she has been turning into a into what I call a 'gremlin'. where she jumps around like a maniac and growls playfully and tries to bite us. Her little teeth hurt so bad. She is responding quite well to being told no and redirected when she does this.

. I knew very little about Doberman breed until I discovered this website.  So much a of the behavior that Lilo is displaying I found on this site, the way she jumps up and bites to get attention and her digging!

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welcome, that's quite the story!  Sounds like you have a good handle on things, but you will want to work on the jumping and play biting quickly.  It's cute while she's little, but won't be when she's bigger! 

I think it's great that you went through and offered a good home to a pup with one eye, I think most people would have not wanted her because of that, and it's such a good thing you did.  She will most definitely test your patience at times, and no matter how hard it is just try to stay calm and consistent.  You will find that you have adopted one of the most loyal, loving breeds of dogs there are, and most people that have a doberman come into their life never even consider another breed.  She will truly become family, rather than just the family pet, and you will be rewarded with the best friend imaginable who will love you unconditionally, and will always be there for you no matter what. 

welcome again, and looking forward to hearing more stories!

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Welcome Lilosmama,

You and your husband are lovely people for adopting this wonderful puppy.  She needs your love and attention, but most of all she needs discipline in the house to keep her happy so that she knows for a fact that she is safe and secure.  A good obedience class would be very wise in your case since she is a rescue, and well it is my assumption that you don't know too much about her background.  Just make sure though that you are not rewarding theses types of behaviors by giving her any attention or leaning down because that's exactly what she wants.  Believe me, these pups are intelligent and learn at an immense pace so just make sure you stay one step ahead of them; Kratos has been quite a learning experience for me, and there are times where he does push my buttions but I stick with the training.

Good luck with your gorgeous puppy, she's beautiful!

Dobieluvr and Kratos

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Bless you for your love and dedication. One of the reasons she has trouble at night is that she has no depth perception, and will probably have trouble judging distances during the day as well. For depth perception, we have to have bi-focal vision. The brain over time will learn to judge distances to objects by approximation by their size, but not as well as with two eyes.

She will not care, dogs are very matter of fact and as I have said many times, they don't look in the mirror to see what they look like. In fact if they look in a mirror they may growl at that "other" dog.

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HI Lilosmama, and welcome!  What a sweetie bear you have!  You and your husband have done a wonderful thing giving this baby a good home.  I had a dog about ten years ago, Daisy, a Finnish Spitz, who had to have an enucleation when she was about 11.  It was so traumatic when we picked her up from the vet because her eye area was shaved, the incision site was fresh, and it just seemed so tragic to me. It looked terrible.  However, the incision site closed quickly and after a few months all her hair grew back and she looked totally normal again, just as is she had one eye closed. She was just as beautiful as she had ever been. And it never seemed to be a problem for her. For all the challenging times you have with Lilo as a puppy, you will be rewarded with the most wonderful dog in the end.

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Hello Lilosmama, we adopted a cat who had the same thing and had an eye removed and let me tell you that he was so well adapted to having only one eye it never bothered him.  In fact, he was my best spider catcher out of three of my kitties!  The only thing that he did differently was when he was playing he would hide behind a wall, couch, or anything else and have the side with his missing eye exposed like " I can't see you and you can't see me."  Also, when he would peak around the corner he would often only show his good eye...it was sooo funny seeing half a cat peaking out from behind a wall.  Unfortunately we just lost him to cancer about a month ago but he was definitely one of the best cats I have ever had!  

Good luck to you and your new pup, he is so lucky to have great forever home!

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I cannot add any more than what's already been said..

Well.. sure I can:

..To give an animal a good home, no matter what the circumstances are; is a wonderful thing!! Bless you for taking Lilo in and she will give back so much more than you could ever imagine..

She is just precious!!

Keep us updated!!

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My little watch dog! Im so excited! My husband was just saying last night he did not want to leave our windows open because he was afraid someone might break in. (We live in a nice neighborhood by the way...which I am sure everyone says just before they get broken into!) When he left for work this morning I opened the windows. I was in the other room and little 16lb Lilo lets out the bark of a 150lb dog! The mail man was on the porch! Wow! I had no idea she had it in her. As soon and he left the porch and I came into the room and she saw I had the situation under control she calmed down!

On another note she grew out of her puppy collar in two weeks! I know pups grow fast but Im not ready for her to be a big girl yet! When we take her to the vet tomorrow I am thinking the Dr may rethink her previous weight estimate of 50lbs! Lilo put on at least 6lbs since her check up two weeks ago and her ribs are still visible! I think she is playing catch up!

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Wow.. she's showing  her dobertude already!! How wonderful for you! You've given this gal a great chance to grow up to be a regal, protective and loving Doberman.. Good for you

( Sofia is a rescue as well.. and it was the best decision we ever made!!)

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For point of reference, at the age of 14 weeks Princess weighed 23 pounds. Her adult weight is about 70-72. (She is currently 21 months old).

You will see hints of her ribs even when she has "caught up". Fast growing Doberman puppies are noted for having a skinny look. I was even at one point concerned about Princess which is one reason I went back and looked up her weight in the vet bills. They only weigh Red now when I ask for it, but as Princess was growing, they weighed her every time. Your vet should too.

On average she gained about 2 pounds a week up until she was 6 months old. At that time she weighed 54 pounds and her weight gain then slowed over the next four months to 1 pound a week so she weighed 69 pounds at the age of 10 months.

Wecome Lilosmama

If you still worry about Lilo's lack of eye , don't be , Lilo isn't .

Had a dobe named Damion . He would play with the neighbors mare (horse) and the mare played back . One day the neighbor put a stallion in the field but Damion did not cared or notice the difference . Well the stallion didn't play well with dogs and Damion got kicked in the eye . Off to the vet we go . I'll spare you the gory details . The vet stitched the eye closed , we watched for a while to make sure there were no ill effects from being kicked in the head . The next day he acted as if nothing had happened and was running around as normal except for his depth presception , well... was a little off . Darn trees kept jumping in front of him . he learned to adjust to that . The most noticable thing was when he was on a heal , he would have to turn his head hard around to watch me . My dogs heal on my left , he lost his right eye . Other than that and he looked as though he was winking all the time . He was normal and lived til he was almost 14 yrs .

Moral of the story is " It doesn't bother them . Dobes are tough dogs" .

Keep up Lilo's training and she'll give you many years of love and happiness .

 

 

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Lilo went for her booster shots today. The vet was very happy with her progress. She said her weight gain is good and her coat looks great. I asked if she was going to rethink the 50lb estimate and she said yes she will most definatly be bigger than 50lbs! She got three shots and her poor nails bled twice when the tech cut them. I was watching and she only took a tiny bit off so she must have long quicks.  In addition I told the vet about my concerns with her frequent peeing and that I thought I saw a very little bit of blood the other day. She did an ultrasound and I caught a urine sample later in the day. The poor baby has a "raging infection" as the vet put it. She is showing now symptoms of not feeling well she is eating and jumping around as normal. Its amazing how much a dog can tolerate! So ten days of antibiotics and a follow up! As far as the cats accepting Lilo into our family...well its still not going well. One cat is pretty cool with her but the other starts to growl and pitch a fit as soon as she hears or sees Lilo...any suggestions? I know it takes time but my husband is growing impatient with Mylie.

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How much did she weigh?

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16.3 Pounds!

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Awww, poor Lilo; I'm sure the vet got her all fixed up and she will be all better in a few days.  You are an excellent mommy!  We have a cat and it was not fun and games when Ginger was a baby.  She didn't mind the cat per se, but looked at him more as a play companion instead of a cat.  And you know how dobie babies play!  She was too rough for him and he didn't appreciate it.  He has his claws and he may have gotten her once or twice, but that didn't seem to deter her and she would keep coming back for more.  Now he stays in our finished basement - my husband's man cave - and everyone is much happier!

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Sooo my parents have a dog that hates the rain and it used to make me crazy when I still lived at home...now I have my own dog that does not like the rain! Lilo had to be dragged off the porch and I had to cover her with an umbrella!!! I really hope she outgrows this!!

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do YOU wanna go out in the rain without an umbrella?? lol.  sounds like u may have a lil diva on your hands!  Dakota will go out in the rain ONLY if I go with her.  Luckily I have a gazebo in the backyard, and she does her business under a big pine tree that stays fairly dry. 

Maybe after a few tries lilo will get more used to it and be ok.  Try to make it a positive experience instead of negative, and she may learn quicker.

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Just a quick suggestion, next time you need to have her nails trimmed, find a groomer who uses a dremmel.. HUGE difference and they can start to get the vein to sort of back up..allowing a shorter trim.

 Once a week is a good start. No pain, no bleeding and no worries.. Better yet, buy one yourself and do your own trimming.. as a once a week trip to the nail salon can get expensive.

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Lilosmama.....I don't think they ever out grown hating the rain....my Harley will hold it for HOURS until it stops to go potty if it is raining. Its funny, he will cry and fuss at the door, then I open it up and he takes one look outside and goes and lays done, kinda like "forget it, I'll wait."

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Same story with Sofia.. Twelve hours and counting one dark and stormy day!! That CAN'T be good for them.. I've taken an umbrella out with me.. no dice.. she shakes her body like it's bolts of fire hitting her.. HATES the rain and in fact actually GLARES out the window. Glad we don't have a lot of it here

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Well the urge to poop out weighed the fear of the rain! She went out and pooped twice! :)  Im standing in the kitchen making dinner and she did what she does best and filled the kitchen with noxious gas that is so purtrid that I thought I would vomit. She is the most gasey dog I have ever had. Not only does it smell it makes noise! My husband insists we should have named her "FFFFtttt". I have to switch her food. she is eating Fromm Gold for Puppies...it is supposed to be good but her body does not tihnk so. I think we will try blue buffalo

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Im standing in the kitchen making dinner and she did what she does best and filled the kitchen with noxious gas that is so purtrid that I thought I would vomit. She is the most gasey dog I have ever had. Not only does it smell it makes noise! My husband insists we should have named her "FFFFtttt".

I have bad news for you. Dobies are famous for that. My nephew nicknamed my first red male (Hans) FB for just that reason. He was bad about it his whole life, no matter what he ate. The only cure is plenty of ventilation.

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The SBD's.. ( Silent but deadly)

Wow!! Sofia has managed to be totally silent with the noxious air that surrounds us, then will look around at us and pretend it came from 'barking spiders'!

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Thank goodness neither Red nor Princess are really given to that, although from time to time Red will pollute the atmosphere.

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Lilo started puppy school yesterday! She was super gaseous for her big day. I kept apologizing so people would know it was her and not me. Yes I threw my puppy under the bus so to speak. Both the sound and the smell was so bad I just could not take credit!  I'm guessing she was nervous. There was only one other puppy in the class a little tiny Boston Terrier about the size of Lilo's head.  The instructor was clearly more interested in the Boston than she was in Lilo. The instructor was quite strange. When she first looked at Lilo she asked if she was Rot. I was so surprised I said no she is Pit! A little girl kindly corrected us both and said "you mean Doberman?" The instructor also spent quite a bit of time really staring at Lilo's missing eye. I felt like she was kind of gawking at it. She also felt the need to make the comment "you should be a pirate for Halloween".  She spent alot of time talking about her dogs about giving them deep tissue massages and taking them to Church to be blessed :) Hopefully we learn a bit more than this by the end of the 8 weeks. The instructor said Lilo is defiantly part Fox Terrier and that she is probably almost full grown. After her Rot comment I kind of doubt her judgement. I looked at some pictures online and I guess she kind of has Fox Terrier ears. But I dont know.

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Lilo started puppy school yesterday! She was super gaseous for her big day. I kept apologizing so people would know it was her and not me. Yes I threw my puppy under the bus so to speak. Both the sound and the smell was so bad I just could not take credit!  I'm guessing she was nervous. There was only one other puppy in the class a little tiny Boston Terrier about the size of Lilo's head.  The instructor was clearly more interested in the Boston than she was in Lilo. The instructor was quite strange. When she first looked at Lilo she asked if she was Rot. I was so surprised I said no she is Pit! A little girl kindly corrected us both and said "you mean Doberman?" The instructor also spent quite a bit of time really staring at Lilo's missing eye. I felt like she was kind of gawking at it. She also felt the need to make the comment "you should be a pirate for Halloween".  She spent alot of time talking about her dogs about giving them deep tissue massages and taking them to Church to be blessed :) Hopefully we learn a bit more than this by the end of the 8 weeks. The instructor said Lilo is defiantly part Fox Terrier and that she is probably almost full grown. After her Rot comment I kind of doubt her judgement. I looked at some pictures online and I guess she kind of has Fox Terrier ears. But I dont know.

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HI Lilosmama, good one with your comment to the instructor!   She sounds like an interesting person.  The real test will be how she instructs you to teach Lilo her commands. If nothing else, obedience class is great socialization and experience for your little girl. I hope you both have fun with it. I see a blue ribbon in Lilo's future. 

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Good growl or bad growl? Yesterday my husband's cousin came over. At first Lilo was play growling with her bone in her mouth and wagging her tail when he came through the door. He is a super tall guy so Im sure this kind of intimidated her. My husband thinks its cute when she growls I however am concerned I do not want her to get in the habit. As I said she is wagging her tail and usually only when she has a toy in her mouth. She doesn't show her teeth and appears to be playing. I don't want her to think this is okay though. Later in the  evening she backed up onto me as close as she could get and growled at him again..still not showing her teeth but as if to protect me. He was simply sitting across the room from me and was talking softly and was not at all threatening to me...I guess he was to her. 

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what was your reaction when she was growling at the cousin?

back onto the gassy pups, geeze is dakota bad too!  reading some of the above made me think of a story from our barbecue on Sunday... Driving home, steph said "O man, dakota just.... no wait, that can't be her, must be a broken sewer". My response was giddy laughter, fist pumps, and an incriminating smile...  lol  But yea, she stinks when she lets them go, and they're quiet, so they kinda sneak up on you, and not only do they tend to linger right on top of you, they will actually follow you around!  they are certainly their own entity...  if you ever need to get someone out of a hiding spot, all you need is a few treats and your trusty dobe lol

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Initially when she growled when he came in the door I told her "no!" because I was shocked1