Jackson at 8 weeks old

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Hello everyone.


We're new to the forum and thought we would introduce you all to Jackson, our 8 week old Doberman puppy.


He's a bit of a handful right now so any tips would be greatfully received!


Rob and Lauren

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A very good looking fawn male you have there. Watch his coat as he grows as some have problems getting very sparse. I had a fawn female once about 24 years ago and while I never had any problems with her coat, I only had her about 3 years before she disappeared on day after she go out of the fenced back yard. (I lived out in the country on 34 acres of land).

I remember when I first got Heidi that I stopped at a pet store to pick up a collar. She clerk who was helping me was oohing and aahing over her. I commented that I bet they didn't get many of these in and she said "Oh, we get them in all the time." I then asked her what she thought she was and her reply was that she thought she was a Weimaraner. I said no, look at her chest and front legs closely. When she saw the rust markings she looked at me and asked "What kind of dog is that?"

Yes, I can imagine he is a handful. Any 8 week old Dobie puppy would be. You have discovered that they are a perpetual dynamo of energy. Enjoy him now for he won't be this small for long. He has just entered the explosive growth period in his life. My youngest (of 2) is a red female named Princess whom I brought home 18 months ago as a 9 week old. I kept a spreadsheet on her age and weight and she gained about 2 1/2 pounds a week except for one week when she had diarrhea and she only gained one. She now weighs in at 70 pounds.

I you have started him on the bed, you need to end that ASAP. If you have not started crate training him, do so now. The crate will become his den with his bed and a place of security for him. Do not use it for punishment area - it's not a jail. Get one around 42" long and 26" or wides. In six months time he will fill it. Find one that has the adjustable separation panel so he does not have the full run of the crate now and that will aid the house training.

If you intend to crop his ears, start planning now. They will probably will need to be done in around 3 weeks, and you need to find the right vet to do it. If you have started him with a vet, go by at some point to discuss it with him and ask to see either photos of his work or references to where you can ask about it. Not all vets do it and not all vets do it well. Look through the topic thread on ear cropping and read the article on this site available from the home page.

One other thing, they are hard headed and devious, so resist him wrapping you around his cute little paw. They are very easy to spoil and difficult to unspoil. Spoil him with love and affection though and you will be rewarded with a loving affectionate companion.

Again, congratulations, he is a fine looking boy.

What a cute photo of Jackson! Congratulations on your new boy. Love the fawn color.

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He's a gorgeous pup!  Fawn colors are a dime in a dozen!

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Hi Robert and Lauren.

What a beautiful dog you have there. He looks like he is going to be big judging from those feet hehe.

I found Q really easy to house train...he very quickly 'got' that outside was for 'wees' and that meant lots of praise and treats at what a good boy he was. Again only twice when he had an upset tummy did he ever soil on the floor.

We started early as well at obedience classes...I dont know why but i thought that Q was going to be a very big dog (probably from reading Mr Greens posts lol)  and would be hard for me to manage. But at 35kg he is fine and i can lead him very easily. I do think now is the time for us to start something different as he seems to have a good learning curve at the moment and i want to sieze the day :).

Look forward to seeing more photo's.

Love Ria and Q

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Dear Rob, Lauren and Jackson!! A great big dober-welcome!!

What a gorgeous boy!! He is already showing that regal bearing that makes us all so proud.

Our Sofia is a four-ish year old fawn, and though not rare, certainly not the norm. We are pretty sure she was used as a breeder before she was abandoned and ended up on our door step and in our hearts. She is a bit of a Miss priss and extremely mellow. Many stories about her have ended up on this forum and in columns of newspapers and in a magazine.

Jackson looks like he's going to be a big guy. Can't wait to watch him grow up on this forum. Please stay in touch and keep us up to date on all the wonders you're about to experience.

Besos from Baja

Katie, Mike and Her Ladyship

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dobieluvr - a dime a dozen? Of the four recognized colors, the fawn is the least common. I have not seen a fawn in the flesh in 21 years.

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Hey guys,


Thanks for your kind responses and advice. We are very proud of him, he's a beautiful little dog. We started him out in a crate and he takes to it really well. When we put him in there he just falls to sleep.

We wouldn't go down the route of ear cropping because we prefer him the way he is, and we don't even think it's legal here in the UK (although we're not sure).

He has been fast to learn and he is generally really sweet, but every now and again he'll bark and growl at us, which is a bit scary. Is this normal? It tends to be when he's acting up.

We have him booked into a first obediance class on Saturday, so we're really excited about that. It's as much for our learning as it is for him!

We'd be interested to hear if you think that a bit of agression and acting up at his age is a good thing or whether we should be concerned? He doesn't bite but he does mouthe us, and we try to discourage his bad behaviours with a "no" and to ignore him.  He responds to commands for 90% of the time but sometimes he ignores us. When he does this we're not sure what to do!!

As you can tell this is all a bit new to us, but we're really keen to do everything the right way.

This forum is fantastic by the way. And it's great to see so many gorgeous dobies in one place :)


More photos soon.

 

Rob, Lauren, and Jackson x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Kratos to this day still tries to mouthe me, especially right now that he is teething, all I can suggest is a firm "no" while grabbing his collar, and present him with a fun chew toy instead.  It's all a learning process, he has definitely improved though...before when we would be laying down he would just come up and nip us; those puppy teeth sure can hurt!!!

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RobandLauren - if you had put your location in the profile, I would not have even brought up the ear cropping. No it is no longer permitted in UK, Western Europe, Austrailia and New Zealand for sure and maybe other places. I am not sure about Canada, but since they still have a close tie to UK, et al, most likely not.

I will bet that when he barks and growls at you he drops down in the front with his rear up and tail twitching. That is a sign he wants to play. He thinks your his new litter mates and wants to to play with him. While it is fine to play with him, it needs to be when you want to not when he wants to. So, when he tries to initiate play, do not play with him. When he bites, yell out load and act hurt. You can also pop him on the top of his snout with two fingers. You can't hurt him with just two fingers, but it will get his attention and it's how mama Doberman disciplined the puppies.

When he's been good, pick him up and hold him. You need to get all that in that you can while you still can. They grow so fast, in six months you will be amazed and wonder where that 50-60 pound dog came from.

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rgreen4,

You are spot on with your post. I was playing with Sage yesterday in his dog run, which is just a continuation of the backyard fence that wraps around one side of our house. Anyway, we were playing and while I held out his rope toy for him to grab he inadvertently grabbed my hand. I knew without a doubt this was not a bite but yelled OUCH out loud. Sage immediately let go & backed off. When I told him it's "alright" he looked relieved. He kind of looked sad, or apologetic. Then, we immediately started playing again. I did not want him to associate (imprint) my discomfort with this toy at a later date.

My wife does not understand how sometimes I ignore Sage when we are inside the house. Well, no more than 5 minutes ago I'd petted him well over 5 minutes and he is right back wanting more hands on attention. In otherwords, I will not allow Sage to be in control. The section on this site about temprament, etc. is an excellent reference, too.      

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Please explain because I think your intent is not what you posted; "dime in a dozen". Fawn Dobes are not easily obtained or that common.

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"Few and far between"? He is one good looking pup.  Mighty big paws.  I like the fawns.

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How many dimes are in a dozen?

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Hello again!


Yes he does put hid nose to the ground when he growls and barks, and now that we know that he just wants to play we just think it's really cute!


Jackson has taken so well to his cage - he really seems to like his quiet time. We feel that we've made real progress with him over the last few days, and the advice from this site (particularly on temperament and care) has really help us.

We take him for his first class on Saturday, and can't wait. We'll be so proud!


Thanks for the helpful advice.

 

Rob and Lauren

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Hi I am sure you will enjoy the puppy class....its lovely to see them play together. I still love to see Q play now with other dogs even the handbag ones.

I take it you have all your innoculations done?

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Q Tip said: I still love to see Q play now with other dogs even the handbag ones.

Well, I have heard the small dogs called a number of things, but handbag dogs is a new one, but very accurate.

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now that's a great looking pup!

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now that's a great looking pup!

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He is beautiful.  Dobes are very trying animals at times and are very stubborn, especially the males. So you must have the upper hand in his training and not let him get away with anything.  When he does what you ask of him, praise him and give him a treat, when he doesn't you need to correct it immediately.  I would suggest to you obedience training when he is around 4 months old. He will do well because he wants to please you. He will be your life long companion and will love you like no other breed. Socialize him regulary as they want to meet new people and new animals. Get him use to the sights and sounds of the outside world and ride him as much as possible in your vehicle. Love him and keep him happy and he will in return love you, make you happy and be your protective guard against anything.

I have a big Dobe, Zeus, he is 130 lbs, stands 30" high and is my constant companion. He would protect me with his life as have the others I have owned. We play together, ride together, walk together, we are one is what I like to say. he went through obedience training at 4 months old (i've him since he was 6 week old), he's black and rust.  I love the doberman breed and have no fear of them. 

Be firm with him, yet gentle. He will do as you ask. But he will try you just to see if he can get away with something. it ends up being kinda funny but you must keep the upper hand at all times.

Best of Luck with him, I know he will do very well because he has gentle eyes.

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All good points Dee bowen

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Jackson is awesome. What a handsome puppy.

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Very new to forums so forgive me now, plse.

 It is through seeing Jackson that I have joined this one.  We are looking for a Doberman puppy, and gathering all the information we can, hence discovering this site.  Which seems great and everyone seems very helpful.  We would love a puppy as handsome as Jackson, so fingers crossed we look in the right places.

 

We will let you know how we are getting along.

 

Bye for now.

 

Eileen

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Hi everyone,


Just thought I'd write to give an update. Jackson is doing really well and getting much bigger!!


We took him to the puppy class and I was really disappointed in it. It seemed that the trainers just wanted to cram as many treats into the puppies as they could - I'm not even joking - he had more treats in a 30 min training session than the size of one meal. Surely this cant be right? usually he's quite obediant without treats - he just likes the praise. Any advice would be great. I'm tempted to get rid of those classes though.


Many thanks,

 

Rob

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I have tried to take both my puppies to puppy classes and I experienced the same thing.  Did not take long to give up on them.  I think that they are good for socalization and getting around other dogs, but I will leave it at that.  I have learned that I have much better luck training my dogs myself, and bonding while training is something you dont get when someone else is teaching your pup.

I like to have my friends and family bring their dogs over or the other way around for socialization, it has seemed to work out so far.  I do my training sessions seperately every other day.  My dogs have come to respect me more I think by doing the training myself.

My youngest puppy is 22 weeks old right now, and he is very food driven but whatever I give him while training means that this much is taken out of his meal pretty much.  Not only that but I do not give him a treat every time he gives a wanted behavior.  I give them to him randomly so he never knows when he gets a treat versus praise.  I think that this helps him be consistant in his actions when I ask for a command.  If he is given a treat every single time and then he does'nt well then he probably wont do it for me if he knows that I dont have a treat.

My other dog is the Doberman and he is 19 months old right now is very toy/play motivated and so he will do a wanted behavior for a toy before he will do one for a treat, but if I keep it random he will do it more consistant.

Moral of the story is that all dogs learn differently and I have learned that most(not all) of these trainers use solely food for training dogs.  What happens when you deal with a dog that is not as much food driven as the others are, well he either does not learn as much as quick or it takes the fun out of it, which will doom your training tremendously. 

Different things motivate dogs. what better way to learn than a training program that is tailored to your specific dogs wants and needs.

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Hi RobandLauren; can you still take him to class but ask the trainer not to treat him?  I had a question about crate training and rgreen mentioned that dobies aren't like children in that everything doesnt' have to be equal. I was so relieved to hear that!  Point being that he should be okay with getting praise as his "treat."  I really enjoyed obedience class just for the chance to reinforce calm submission in the midst of chaos and overstimulation. If you already paid, maybe you could still participate just for the socialization.  Good luck! 

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Thought you might like to see how he's getting on!

 

 

This photo makes me smile because he looks like he's going to take off!

Rob

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Awwwwww, what a happy boy!!!!  That picture is priceless! His color is like liquid candy. Ginger has her ears and they are like warm velvet.  Luckily for me, she loves to have them massaged and kissed endlessly - one of my great pleasures!

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Baby dobies are so beautiful - he's growing into such a gorgeous little dog. I always know when he's up to no good though - it's when i can't hear him. I then find him in the middle of the lawn with something he shouldn't have!!

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Oh my goodness.. he looks like he's flying right  into your arms... GREAT shot of him laughing at all of us!! THANKS

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OMG sofia is really beautiful. I haven't seen many fawn dobies.

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gorgeous, gorgeous dog!!!  you hit the nail on the head, when things are quiet, I know I need to go investigate asap lol

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RobandLauren - thanks for posting that wonderful photo. Yes he looks like he is about to take off. I was privilaged to have a Fawn female once 24 years ago and haven't seen one personally since. You will note the silver head that Sofia has, well Jackson will get his when he matures, probably somethime between his first and second birthday.

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Very beautiful