New to forum and finally decided to post...say hello to our Moby!!

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Well, we have officially been new doberman parents for about 6 weeks! We are VERY much in love but with her being our first doberman (all rescued pound puppies before this) the learning curve has been steep to say the least :) We continue to be amazed by her beauty and athleticism but are also bewildered sometimes by how STUBBORN she can be - especially with the potty training (specifically her #2's)! We knew the beginning would be especially difficult considering that we also have two young children (18 months and 4 years) - all three our now growing up together. Although the puppy biting is a constant struggle because of the kids (you can't turn your head for even a minute) I am happy to see that even through the puppy craziness, I can already see that she is going to be great with them. It's amazing how in the beginning, the noise level and amount of distractions from the kids playing (and toy throwing) would give her pause - now even after a few short weeks, nothing from them phases her. There may be no better way to socialize a puppy than small children :)

Well - just wanted to say hi...have been reading in the forums for several months now and finally wanted to contribute and say thanks for all the great info! I have learned so much here already!!

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  Angela

  Moby and Brady

 

 

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They can adapt to pretty much anything :)   As for the potty training,  that's really more on your to keep watch and make sure she it taken out regularly and told to 'go potty'  Praise her when she does and come back inside.  she will get it but she doesn't know to tell you she just knows she has to go so if she's pooping in the house,  take her out more, set an alarm if you need reminded. 

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awwwww how cute. Welcome to the forum glad you decided to finally post, lots of great info here to help you through that steep learning curve, I think that was a great way to phrase that; I haven't done the puppy bit for about 10 years, will be getting a puppy soon I hope and then I will be here worried and needing help :)) I know with Ben the rottie I had a lot of questions and got my answers here; can't wait to see more pics of your growing babies.....Ben sends big old rottie slobbers :))

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Welcome to the world of dobermans, those wonderful creatures who teach you humility, patience and give you the greatest love in the world.  And welcome to the forum.  I'm new here myself but already can see there are great people here with lots of wonderful information.  Dobermans can be very stubborn and hard headed but that's because they are so intelligent.  Hang in there, the potty thing can be difficult but she will get it...Lori gave good advice. 

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Welcome to the forum.  Lori gave you great advice on potty training.  I used the kitchen timer to help remind me.  I set it for 20 minutes, than 30, 40, 1 hour, etc. Good luck and welcome again!

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Thanks, everyone for the welcome!! Also, thanks Lori for the advice - here is my problem with the pooping:

I take her out very often, she has even gotten good at signaling at the door that she needs to go out. I take her out - she pretty much always pees. I try to give her as much time as possible and continue to say...go potty, go potty - especially when I know she has just eaten and needs to go. But she always seems to get so distracted by things - sticks to grab, squirrels playing, leaves blowing etc. that I eventually give up and then within 5 minutes of being back inside she poops without signaling at the door. I know it sounds crazy, but with the pooping it's almost like she doesn't like doing it and waits until the last possible minute until it's literally falling out of her. This is how it is even outside...weird! So we continue to do the crate training thing - which I hate. I just want her to get it so we can stop crating her so much and not have to constantly be on edge watching her...

Any other advice??

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Ok, from the crate go directly outside. If she has not pooped by the time she wants to go back in and you need to go back in, put her back in the crate. Keep her in the crate until she poops outside, then praise her like there's no tommorow, and take her back in and let her run loose a while.

Welcome to the site.

Lori said it right, it's up to you. Bring Moby out often and regularly till she gets the idea. What your doing wrong is your coming back in too soon. Moby gets distracted outside and forgets to do the poo. When she gets back inside, not as many distractions, then, gotta go. Bring her outside where there are less distractions if possible (with a puppy, it ain't easy to find). You got the idea, you just need to get a little better at it (and you will) and have more patients. Moby will get the idea soon if you keep it up. And like harly Bear said, use a kitchen timer. I've used those with all my dogs (Mrs Gunny's Idea) and it helps.

Gunny

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Maybe try taking her out on a leash so she can't have play time.  Stay in one small area so after a few minutes there won't be any new smells because she's still in the same small area.  Keep saying Go Potty to her.  it might take 10 minutes, it might take 20 but when she goes - tell her good girl, go potty in a very happy excited tone so she knows she pleased you.  Don't let her have free run in the house until she's gone.  Give her 15 minutes back in the crate if need be...

 

With rocky, after about a week I got to know when he had to go almost before he did.  They are pretty routine about it once you learn it.   Morning first thing Rocky would go out and pee almost instantly.  However we'd come back inside and after about 20 minutes of being awake he would then have to poop.  He didn't have to poop right away...so try to learn your dog's times.  After he eats - give it about 30 minutes a little longer as they get older and they usually have to poop.   If they nap, take her out to pee upon waking up.    Rocky would poop 3-4 times a day as a puppy.  As he grew up it's twice - morning and then after our jog/walk in the evening.   

 

Potty training is as much about you learning your dog as teaching them.   Once you know what they do, it's up to you to react before they can do it. 

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Well said, Lori! I will just need to be more patient...Thanks again :)

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I know this is really gross, but I can tell by looking at Harley that he needs to go #2. I won't go into specifics (use your imagination).   By his actions yes, but also by how his behind looks.  We had pooping outside down within a few weeks of having him because I became so keen to his appearance (Peeing was another matter).  Once that I saw that he needed to go poop, we would not go back in until he did so (then lots of praise and treats). 

Like Lori said, learn his routine and watch really carefully for her signals because they are there.

 

Awesome advice: Potty traiNing is as much about you learning your dog as teaching them.   Once you know what they do, it's up to you to react before they can do it.

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Harley - I totally know what you mean about appearance now that you mention it ;) I'll keep a closer eye on her backdoor!! Thanks again!

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Angela, cannot add a single thing to the above posts.. all great suggestions.. just popping in to tell you hello and welcome.

Moby is a great looking little girl and we are thrilled to hear all the adventures we KNOW you're going to have..

Sounds like you have your hands full with the little ones and training a new pup... but try to visit as often as you can.

Kate and Sofia

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Thanks, Kate! Sofia is beautiful :)

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Welcome to the group!  When I was potty training Ziva, she would do the same as you say Moby does---she'd pee almost immediately when going outside, but no matter how long we stayed outside, she's wait till she got back inside the kitchen and THEN do a poo.  I just started taking her out a 2nd time, about 2 minutes after she came in from peeing, and made a big happy deal out of her pooping outside instead of inside.  Might have been more work than some people would want to do, but it worked for us.

Paul

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Thanks, Paul! I will definitely try that - I know what you mean...sometimes it doesn't matter how long we stand out there with her (and she is on a leash, being told over and over to go potty) she refuses to go ... until 5 mintues after coming inside when she's on my shag rug and then it's no problem - bombs away! It can be infuriating!!! I try to remain calm (I don't always succeed :)

How long until Ziva finally got it? Moby is 22 weeks - but we didn't get her until 16 weeks...

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Oh gosh, it's been so long, now, I can't remember exactly, but I'd easily guess a couple of weeks.

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Welcome to the forum. Don't worry - she'll get it. Then she'll forget it. Then she'll get it again and you'll be home free.

Welcome to the forum. All the advice above is excellent. I agree with the keeping to a small areas so there are no new distractions and smells. With Brutus it took a matter of 4 weeks until he got the hang of things. We would go directly from crate to outside and he would do his business and then come back in. hang in there she will get the hang of it soon. The key is consistency.

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Thanks again everyone for the posts! I am happy to say that i think our little moby doby has finally figured it out :) it has been 5 whole days without any accidents. the final thing that seemed to work was removing the large area rug where she had so many accidents. with all the rugs rolled up and no potty scents for her to hit on - she finally decided pooping inside was no longer so appealing :) she whines at the door everytime now!!