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We just received our two new babies this last Saturday. Both are females one is Black and tan (Elsa) adn the other one is red and tan (Emma) they are 6 weeks old. We have always had Labs in our home but we had to put to rest our faithfull lab last week afer a short and fast bout with Cancer. We researched short hair medium/large dogs with good temperment and decided on Dobermans (I was already sold on them since my childhood best friend had them as we were growing up). My wife and I immediatly knew that this was the best decesion. We absoulty love them and enjoy watching them play together, and have agreed that they will be spoiled, and she is already looking to upsize our bed for when they get older.   The Breeder recommended Puppy Chow but the Vet at Pets Mart as well as one of the Employees recommended Science Diet for puppies Large Breed. We have an appointment with our vet this Friday and will get his input on food for them. We truly look forward to watching them grow up into beautiful dogs.

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Welcome and Congratulations ... I think.  Wow.  1) Do your homework. and 2) Eat your wheaties.  We had a doberman and dachshund at the same time and it is definately a challenge to raise two at once.  Even knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have tried two dobermans. 

This is a great resource, so read as many threads as you can and enjoy the adventure.  Dobermans are more like raising children than raising dogs because they are crazy smart and intuitive.  It is a lot of work to raise/train them properly but the rewards for the hard work are phenomenal.

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Welcome! My friend (whom I got Harlow from) kept 2 of the pups from the litter and boy has her house changed! Be prepared to take everything of value, monitary or emotional, out and put it in storage! They are cute little critters at 6 weeks but at 6 months when they are using your couch as a springboard it's a little hectic!

As for food, check out this site to see where your food stacks up. Anything you can buy in the grocery store is usually garbage and Science Diet is pushed at most vets because they get a kickback....

I feed my dogs, the dobe and a hound Taste of the Wild. The pup is doing great on it!

www.dogfoodadvisor.com

The best advise I received from Gunny (one of the pros on here) is to feed the best food you can afford that your dog will eat.

Harlow is 6 mos now and our first Dobe as well. This forum has been a wealth of information. Spend some time surfing around it as there will be answers to questions you never even thought to ask.

As for spoiling, great, as long as the humans in your home establish yourselves as the pack leaders. I can't stress the importance enough!! Dobies want to run the show and if you give them an inch they WILL take a mile! There is an excellent online training site called DoggyDan. You can do a 3 day trial for $1. It's enough to learn some basic rules to establish you as the pack leader. Good video for visual learning.

Have fun and good luck! Can't wait to see some pics of the little ladies.

Angie and Harlow

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All we can say after I read your posts to my wife is UH-OH. We would'nt trade them for anything but ask me again in 6 months LOL. We definitly will be looking into other brands of dog food, but after speaking to the Vet at Pets Mart we bought 2 30 pound bags of dog food since the rep for Science Diet was there and gave us coupons. We trusted the VET so we didn't think to question them since they are in the business of caring for animals.  I would hate to throw all that money out the window.   

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Hello and welcome from me and Alysia too :=) And welcome to (double) puppy bootcamp!

Like Angie & MommaL say, keep EVERYTHING you don't want pawed, chewed or boxed to bits under lock and key. Better, move it to storage. Here is a modest list of what ours had destroyed at 4 months:

- a nice pair of my visiting friend's shoes (not to mention gazillions of our own shoes)

- my husband's glasses ('my doberman ate them' to the optician)

- wooden door frames x 2

- her bed and everything in it

- plaster walls (yes. really.)

- two of my winter coats and several sweaters

- all her toys, bar the Kong Extreme

I could go on. Doberman pups are terrors. But also loads of fun and as everyone else on here will tell you, it's all worth it when they grow up into beautiful, gentle-natured, super-smart dogs  that can read your mind and bring you joy and laughter every single minute of the day.

6 weeks is very young to have been given the pups. Normally it's 8 weeks. Do you know why you were allowed to take them home so early? That's a really important time in the puppy's life, where it learns so much from its mother and littermates. I think you will have to be very alert to signs of nervousness, timidity etc and make sure to socialise them as much as possible with sights, sounds, humans, children and other dogs. Alysia's mother abandoned her litter at 5 weeks and we struggled a lot as a result with various neurotic issues for the first couple of years.I'm sure others will chime in here. This forum is an amazing resource with many kind people willing to help.

Re the food, you can always supplement the kibble you've bought with other things, like raw meat and fish or mix it with other kibble. I supplement Royal Canin kibble with raw meaty bones, offal, frozen fish and all kinds of other things and she does fine.

Wishing you luck and happiness with your two babies :=)

bell & Alysia

 

 

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So basically we get to look forward after a year to bare studed walls inside the house and have to climb into the attic to get dressed lol. What did we get ourselves into?

The breeder who sold us the little "demons dressed up in angel costumes" said that the mother was already drying up and was limiting her exposure to the puppies to a minimum. We have a maltese and a shitzupoo plus we have grandkids always at the house. So far the puppies have adjusted well and we take them outside about every two hours for about 25 min. (we are very fortunate that we both work from home) so they get a change of environment throughout the day and evening. They do like to chase the other dogs and try adn play plus they like to play with the grandkids. That is pretty much in between them beating each other up. They even get along well with our Siamese Cat but that could be because the cat is much bigger than them. The cat catches snakes and beats them up then I guess eats them because I never can find them after she catches them. The only thing so far is that if they hear my wife or myself then they whine because they want to be near us and not in their crate  

They are far different as puppies than any of our other dogs that we have had as puppies through the years.

 

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Lol, glad you have a sense of humour! There is a reason they are affectionately called Velcro dogs...they want to be with you ALWAYS! You will never pee alone again with dobermans around!

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Yes, keep that sense of humor in tact.  It is the single biggest requirement to becoming a doberman family!  With both of you at home, you have an advantage.

The good people and good advice on this forum was a tremendous help for us as we are a first time dobe family too.  I read every thread on the entire forum and learned so much about things I didn't even know to ask! 

Our boy is 15 months old and we have enjoyed every minute of the adventure (well, almost every one).  He taught me about the value of clear, concise language and knows what I'm going to do sometimes before I even decide it myself.  With two pups, make sure that you are in agreement with your training style and training language.  Example:  Yesterday, Rip jumps on our bed while both of us are in the room.  Hubs says "get down" to which he promptly plops in the down position while still on the bed.  I then giggle and say "get off" and he jumps off the bed and trots off with a wiggle of the nub.  He makes us laugh every day.

 

 

BRODE, these are excellent replies to your post. You've gotten a small idea of what your in for but in stereo. Keep an eye on the flat panel TV because it's on the target list.

I just wanted to touch on something that hasn't been addressed. Not only do you have two pups the same age, you have "siblings". Two pups from different litters still have to bond with each other. Siblings are already bonded. This is a unique challenge for an owner. The single pup bonds to it's owner because he has to. Siblings can find comfort in each other not necessarily needing you. So your challenge is to bond with the pups individually. I would suggest that when you take "them" out, do it one pup at a time. Have some alone time with each one of them. Crate them separately and teach/train them away from one another. It's no problem letting them play together or interact with each other, heck, that's just fun to watch, just be certain that you get alot of alone time with each of them and get them use to being away from one another. Other than that everything else is the same just Xs 2.

A word of "warning!". When you walk across the den and those two little 3 month old Den Sharks pounce on your ankles from under the coffee table, it's going to be in stereo...lol

Welcome and enjoy the new pups,

Gunny

 P.S. Start teaching their foundation now. They're not too young to learn Sit, Stay, Down, Heel, Come.    

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Congrats. Wow two lots of love for the two of you.  Keep writing to tell us how its going!

Here is a funny story about my baby girl Katana!! (So I saw you have a cat.)  My little girl sometimes thinks she is a cat were they go i can go right mom, as she stands on counter, table. flat screen tv stand i also crawl under the bed and come out the other side for fun. lol !!!We are now 5months old and just now listening to mom that im not allowed to be a cat.   l

Traci And Katana

 

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Welcome...congratulations + condolences...Dobes are incredible animals & will bring you years of challenge as well as loyalty & love. The babies are, for want of a better word...challenging. Establish yourself as alpha right now. Take them to obedience classes. Be consistent. Put away anything that you don't want eaten or destroyed. Give them lots of distractions...toys, bones, intellectual challenges, etc...Hang on for the ride of your life. Once your babies are grown you will be very happy that you chose a doberman!

I wish you luck with your girls, I will tell you that raising littermates together in this breed is not recommended ...even for experienced Doberman people.  Google littermate syndrome.  If you just got them, you may want to consider returning one. 

I know this is not what you want to hear, but I'd be remiss if I didn't warn you.  Littermates tend to bond to each other and not their humans, they are normally harder to housebreak and train - In Dobermans, they often tend to grow up to hate each other and fight.... causing you to be forced to rehome one at adulthood. 

You don't know me - but I've had Dobermans for over 20 years ... show and breed AKC Champion Dobermans.  I would never ever sell littermates together. 

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I'm sitting here reading these posts while explaining to my 90lb dobe that he is not a lap dog. Seriously, we have this conversation daily. They are so smart and stubborn. I couldn't imagine raising two simultaneously. Fitz gives stellar advice. You might not always like it but it's always spot on. The best advice I can give you about this breed is socialization. It's vital to making them successful. Good luck because you're going to need it. Keep us posted and post pics. We love puppy pics.

 Tess

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 wow two at once ! the shere strenght of these dogs at just four to five months old is incrediable hope you have strong arms cause if not trained they will pull you all over the place . good luck but on the other side once you get passed the doberteens it should be a joy ! but like gun slinger said get lots of one on one time .no matter what stay calm assertive

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Congratulations on your new puppy's!! I am so happy for you. This place is absolutely wonderful! You found just the right place to be, there are very knowledgable people here for sure. We have to have some pictures though, just so you know:) Can't wait to hear more about them, as they grow!

     Dogbreedinfo.com has a lot of stuff on dogs in general.

 

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I'm so curious! How are the two puppies doing???