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So, today I took Laith to doggie daycare. He is 7 months and 60 pounds. I see a beautiful male doberman in the corner. He is 8 months and SO MUCH bigger. When everyone was just saying he was so much bigger I was looking at him closely. His nose/face isn't has wide as Laith's and his legs are much skinnier (but longer). But still, Laith is suppose to be really big for a doberman (according to his breeder). 

I started talking about this and that with the people running the daycare and she suggested very strongly to switch Laith back to puppy food until 1 to 1 1/2 years. She said that the puppy food has much more nutrients to help growth. I have him on Blue Wilderness which my trainer told us was the same as "puppy food" but more protein. 

I went to PetSmart and bought the Blue Puppy food. I looked at the labels in the store and the only difference is literally the 28 vs. 34% protein in the two (not suprising knowing both are Blue). The puppy has more dried fruits and carbs in it as well. 

Just wanted you guys opinion on it. Doberman owners know much more about the breed than just a "dog owner overall". What do you suggest with Laith? I called the breeder to double check the sizes/weight of the mom/dad but I remember her saying they were both on the larger side.

I don't want to stunt his growth. 

Thanks all!

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Some dogs just grow quicker than others... and I have seen it in my uncles dogs. He has a set of twins... Rennie and Mika... both dobes, both female... @8mos, one was bigger than the other, @9mos, they were the same size again, @11mos, the previously smaller one was bigger and has stayed that way. Sometimes things just happen that way.

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In the puppy stage comparing 7 months to 8 months is like comparing a 7 year old human to a 10 year old human, especially in large breeds. They grow sooooo fast in just a week comparing is just going to drive you crazy. As long as you are providing the proper nutrients and portions and the vet doesn't see a problem I wouldn't worry. And remember exercise builds those lovely muscles and helps with growth and form. And large breeds go through several lanky funky looking stages as they grow. Sometimes you wonder if they will ever grow into their legs and feet.  Don't worry too much, we rescued 4 puppies 9 years ago and the smallest of those is now the largest, it just took him a little longer to hit his growth spurt. Plus you have no idea what the parents of this other dog were like. If you are still concerned take the label off the bag of food to your vet and let them know how much you feed and see what they recommend if anything. And a good dog parent is one that questions and seeks answers.....good for you for asking.

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I personally think that puppies should stay on puppy food until they're at least a year old.

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Raven is 3 weeks younger than Cisco (same dad - Ravens mom much larger than Cisco's mom)

HE weighs 20 more than her and is about 2 inches taller she is only a smidge shorter length wise though.

He is 6 months old tomorrow and weighs 62 lbs and she was 5 months old this past saturday and weighed in at 39.6 lbs...

We both keep asking the vet and the breeder why is she sooo much smaller than him- we have had all kinds of answers.. Girls grow slower, 3 weeks is a big age gap... So maybe it is just that- or maybe that other pup is a "warlock" lol jk jk jk!!!!

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hhahahahaha, glad someone else sees the humor in the warlock wording.....

Warlock - origins - oathbreaker, liar, one who is an oathbreaker

that would just about sum up those who breed "warlocks" kinda fits the people,.....not the dog.....so if one calls themselves "breeders of warlocks" - does that mean their breeding children that are liars - just joking ya' all

Please say you're laughing with me....

 

Seriously though -  its just a term used to encourage people to think they are getting something they aren't - very good term when you consider it means - liar and oathbreaker - isn't any doberman "breeder" that calls their dobermans Warlocks breaking an oath to better the breed and do the right thing......

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Only reason I switched Steve off his puppy food is I wanted to go Grain Free and Grain Free is an ALS food.

I just went and visited my vet yesterday on our run because she has a doberman kid one month younger than Steve, when they first met her dog was SO SMALL compared to where Steve was at his age -- they are now almost equally big! 

Don't sweat it, in my opinion, some people just think they know it all.  My sister-in-law calls me I swear once a week with questions because the woman who does her doggy day care (ironically, old employer of mine) is always telling her things that are wrong with Maynard.  HMMMM... more often than not she has no idea what she's spouting off to Lacey.

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Well, at least you're discerning.....and know where this woman is coming from

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Don't sweat it!!  I think 60 lbs is in the normal range for a 7 month old...I know females are generally a bit smaller but Dakota will be 8 months on the 12th and weighs 64 lbs.  From what I've read on here these doberdudes can hit a growth spurt right up until they are a year and a half!  And bigger doesn't necessarily mean better either right!?  As for the food I would trust your vet.  It's the nutrients that are important and having the word "puppy" on the bag doesn't magically make it better for them lol although good marketing on their part makes it easy to feel that way!  If you checked the label and they are basically the same then I doubt there is anything to worry about! 

Plus I bet Laith is WAY better looking than that other dobe ;)

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haha I love the Warlock humor!! So true! 

Thanks everyone!! I feel like he will hit a growth spurt again because the way his legs/feet look (he hasn't grown into them) but the whole puppy food thing threw me for a loop. I still am up in the air deciding to switch again or not. 

And Sweetpea, YEP Laith is AMAZING. :) They said the other doberdude had NEVER been socialized so he was in a room by himself. I told the lady to give his parents my name and # and to let Laith play with him today. His size did make me worry about Laith though! 

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Everyone always knows what's best for your dog,  sometimes you just have to decide what YOU want to do.  Many will say don't give large breeds puppy food, many will say do it. I went with MY expirience with dogs overall and my Vet's suggestion which was to feed puppy food for 1 year, then switch.  That's exactly what we did and Rocky is a perfectly happy healthy 83 lb 1yr 1 month old pup....

 

Rocky literally gained 10 lbs every month until he hit about 7 months and then he slowed drastically.  If they 'look' a healthy weight that's all that matters.  Changing food now certainly isn't going to prompt a growth spurt.

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Hi there I noticed you also said the face was different, somebody correct me if im wrong but isnt there a little difference between the euro and american dobe with the euro being shorter faced?. Not sure if there is a difference in size maybe? Q has remained at 36kg for over a year now (he was two last november) I think he is little... but he is just right for walking with as his nape is just at my fingertips.

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I am not sure Q Tip. I measured Laith yesterday and he is within the breed standard so that makes me feel better that he is "underweight or size" which was suggested to me.

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Each dog is going to be a little different. I just looked up Princess' weight record, and at 6.4 months, she weighed 54.4 pounds. At two years and three months she tipped the scale at 79. (Her kibble has also be cut back a bit because she is just a little too broad in the rear, but we don't talk about it).

My first male, Hans, never got over 70 pounds and he was just at the bottom of the height standard. Red on the other hand, is a Clifford, definitely being oversized at almost 30" tall. When I got Princess, I was looking for a smaller dog as there is no way I can pick Red up, and Princess is at the limit.